Unofficial Minecraft Thread #68 : Othor Games

» Sat May 12, 2012 4:04 pm

I thought we agreed on Green and Brown to represent the mountians.

Kay then what pattern?

Chekerboard, diagonal stripes, vertical stripes, horizontal stripes. Ect

» Sun May 13, 2012 4:59 am

I wouldn't be particularly against everyone moving to NF or BP, since obviously I've always advocated more of a "togetherness" on the server. I wonder, what might the distance between the two cities be? Too far to combine them into a single metropolis?

» Sun May 13, 2012 4:20 am

I wonder, what might the distance between the two cities be? Too far to combine them into a single metropolis?

Several hundred squares, I think. You could probably absorb the College into Bridgeport but anything linking Frostfall with BP would have to be absolutely massive.

» Sun May 13, 2012 1:22 am

I wouldn't be particularly against everyone moving to NF or BP, since obviously I've always advocated more of a "togetherness" on the server. I wonder, what might the distance between the two cities be? Too far to combine them into a single metropolis?

It could be done, first by building a road going straight to BP (not to the college) and then building along that road. Expand outwards and eventually it will take the shape of a giant city.

» Sat May 12, 2012 12:53 pm

It could be done, first by building a road going straight to BP (not to the college) and then building along that road. Expand outwards and eventually it will take the shape of a giant city.

But given our current population, there'd be nobody living in most of the city.

» Sat May 12, 2012 2:43 pm

But given our current population, there'd be nobody living in most of the city.

Population. The cause of all the problems :tongue:

It would still be worth it to see how big it becomes though

» Sat May 12, 2012 5:55 pm

I've always wanted to build a massive city. Its what Block-Tec West was supposed to be

» Sun May 13, 2012 12:49 am

I've always wanted to build a massive city. Its what Block-Tec West was supposed to be

Was that one of the stops on the railway in the 1.7 map?

» Sun May 13, 2012 2:15 am

I've always wanted to build a massive city. Its what Block-Tec West was supposed to be

I'd like that too, but it would end up being purely decorative.

» Sat May 12, 2012 1:52 pm

I'd like that too, but it would end up being purely decorative.

Everything will end up being purely decorative

» Sun May 13, 2012 3:37 am

Everything will end up being purely decorative

Ever see the City map?

» Sat May 12, 2012 5:16 pm

Ever see the City map?

No, I joined in the 1.7 map with the city guard and stuff.

» Sat May 12, 2012 11:05 pm

http://i.imgur.com/UTTjP.jpg

Scribble on ideas for expansion or whatever you feel like. It's not too absurd to think the two towns could be expanded together. The neutral town could be moved to the area surrounding the college (since it too is neutral) to keep things even more compact.

» Sat May 12, 2012 10:21 pm

awesome, like a middle earth map or something/

» Sat May 12, 2012 3:54 pm

Just to chime in, that furthermost point on the map is 'Mooshroom Island' as I like to call it. I'm pointing it out because I BELIEVE it was Game who wanted to know where I found it.

» Sat May 12, 2012 5:53 pm

Actually, Corn was saying that he'd headed straight north for half an hour. It looks like your Mushroom Isle isn't that far from BP.

» Sun May 13, 2012 2:14 am

http://i.imgur.com/UTTjP.jpg

Scribble on ideas for expansion or whatever you feel like. It's not too absurd to think the two towns could be expanded together. The neutral town could be moved to the area surrounding the college (since it too is neutral) to keep things even more compact.

You know Undone, since the RP is basically over, you really don't even need your neutral town anymore. Why not just move back to BP or NF?

» Sun May 13, 2012 2:26 am

I just had an idea, what if we turn Frostfall into the seat of power, and Bridgeport a 'suburb'? I dont mean two seperate cities, but if we were to do a merger. I mean, Frostfall looks like a downtown metropolis, it'd be perfect as 'government buildings', as for the college, perhaps it's an educational district? Also, perhaps we could make a direct road between BP and FF and make this a 'Main Street' type of thing, you know, with shops and diners and such along it?

» Sun May 13, 2012 2:58 am

I just had an idea, what if we turn Frostfall into the seat of power, and Bridgeport a 'suburb'? I dont mean two seperate cities, but if we were to do a merger. I mean, Frostfall looks like a downtown metropolis, it'd be perfect as 'government buildings', as for the college, perhaps it's an educational district? Also, perhaps we could make a direct road between BP and FF and make this a 'Main Street' type of thing, you know, with shops and diners and such along it?

Maybe Undones hotel can be a holiday resort

» Sun May 13, 2012 3:41 am

I don't think you guys are realizing how much distance is actually between NF, BP and the college. This merged city would have to be absolutely massive, and only about 1/10th of it would actually be used due to the amount of players we've lost.

Besides, it's not really going to matter since nobody paid the server fee for this month. The server could, and probably will, come down at any time.

» Sun May 13, 2012 4:20 am

You guys do know that when I say Rp I'm usually referring to RPG Type Gameplay and not actualy RPing, right? Unless I specifically say it, like in the Vault RP.

Of course you can still RP if you want.

This is the reason we have money and MMO and looking to get SkyrimRPG etc etc. so that players could compete against one another if they wanted to whether its PvP, friendly or whatever. I lay down some rules, basic premises and the players "make the game" so to speak.

A quick anology to what I'm trying to say would be like comparing some MMO's. Most MMO players DON'T RP on their server but some do. Now lets look at the 2 major ways people play on these 2 MMO games:

WoW = Numbers and Loot

GW = Skills Acquisition and PvP

Though they are playing an RPG, they aren't roleplaying. In the way I have setup the server it would be Wealth Acquisition and Building/Land Expansion with PvP. Of course, the players can still "make the game". Did it ever occur to any of you to think outside the box? The rules were left a little vague for a reason.

For instance, Bandits weren't allowed in cities on the last map and were subject to jail time or death. Most of the bandits shied away thinking it was "server illegal" to enter towns. This is not the case. Take a look at Skooma, he embraced the bandit. He knew exactly what I was talking about.

Or we can take a look at this map and how Terpy was dealing with "peace negotiations". He was demanding that BP hand over materials in order to keep the peace. Some may say this was trolling, and may not have been far from the mark knowing Terpy, but he was within his "RP" rights to do so. All BP had to do was stop giving him materials, kill him or both. Simple.

If anyone has questions, just ask.

» Sat May 12, 2012 2:06 pm

Server is down. If anyone cares to reboot it.

» Sat May 12, 2012 10:12 pm

Server is down. If anyone cares to reboot it. :smile:

Unles it's down because nobody paid for it.

» Sat May 12, 2012 3:46 pm

Unles it's down because nobody paid for it.

Its been up since Bone said that. I was just on it like 20mins ago before it died.
Maybe though or maybe it just fails at life again - too hard to tell. :shrug:

Well its back up now. Who knows whats going on with it these days...

» Sat May 12, 2012 8:32 pm

The rules were left a little vague for a reason.

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Or we can take a look at this map and how Terpy was dealing with "peace negotiations". He was demanding that BP hand over materials in order to keep the peace. Some may say this was trolling, and may not have been far from the mark knowing Terpy, but he was within his "RP" rights to do so. All BP had to do was stop giving him materials, kill him or both. Simple.

If anyone has questions, just ask.

And, to be honest, that's where I see the problems arising. The rules are left vague, and people exploit them to the point where they make life unpleasant for the other players. Vague rules are fine - even good - when we have a server population who can approach them with civility. But when even one or two people use the ambiguity for the purpose of trolling or otherwise spoiling the gameplay for other players, that's where I have a problem. Death on our server means nothing. Killing people will just make them more determined than ever to come back. And when we get to a stage of perpetual war which is essentially one side spoiling the game for the other, that's when something needs to be done. "RP rights" mean nothing when claimed at the expense of enjoyment for others.

Server restarted.