1.8 UpdateDragonborn DLC discussion thread #45

Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:58 am

Official information
Officially called Dragonborn.
Sadly, on 360, presumably, as a 30 exclusive 360, on December 4th 2012 for 1600 Microsoft Points.
It is marketed as a game Add-On, like Dawnguard and Hearthfire. Take what you will from that....

Teaser picture http://cdnstatic.gamesas.com/bethblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/681455957.jpeg.
Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s.

Observations
Video contains information about some ex-Dragon-Priest-come-hipster-Dragonborn who ruled over Solstheim and liked to eat dragons. He makes a return in Dragonborn.

Links to interesting parts of the video and their respective stills.
Spoiler
Partial boatride 0m04s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=4s) (http://i.imgur.com/3Hihm.jpg)
Overview of Solstheim 0m23s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=23s) (http://i.imgur.com/jpKVN.jpg)
Telvanni Architecture 0m25s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=25s) (http://i.imgur.com/vWbdc.jpg)
Netch 0m27s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=27s) (http://i.imgur.com/jJKdz.jpg)
Dunmer village 0m28s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=28s) (http://i.imgur.com/TGLpk.jpg)
Miraak temple and portal to Apocrypha 0m38s and 0m39s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=36s and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=38s) (http://i.imgur.com/2uPWc.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/l52BX.jpg)
Tentacles from book grabbing Dragonborn, presumably taking them into Hermaeus Mora's realm 0m40s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=40s) (http://i.imgur.com/ykgJE.jpg)
Telvanni Architecture 0m47s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=47s) (http://i.imgur.com/lgnUK.jpg)
Dragon riding 0m50s and 1m10s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=50s and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=70s) (http://i.imgur.com/7RMDt.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/QSuI2.jpg)
Bonemold Armor 0m50s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=50s) (http://i.imgur.com/yjU6P.jpg)
Scourge (axe) 0m56s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=56s) (http://i.imgur.com/Z9DlP.jpg)
1H spears (NPC) 0m59s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=59s) (http://i.imgur.com/3UxYb.jpg)
Gravedigger (sword) 1m03s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=63s) (http://i.imgur.com/DKRcu.jpg)
2H spears (NPC) 1m05s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=65s) (http://i.imgur.com/a7bAn.jpg)
Rieklings and rieklings on boars 1m05s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=65s) (http://i.imgur.com/a7bAn.jpg)
(give me more links and I'll put them here, append #t=XXmYYs to the video URL for timecode)

Albums containing the same + more stills.
http://imgur.com/a/8ezW3
http://imgur.com/a/l4yL2 (Can you identify some of these?)


Speculation
Boat Arrival into what is likely where Raven Rock was.
Antagonist is a former Dragon Priest, as well as the first Dragonborn and had dominion over Solstheim
Redoran Architecture present in walled city.
Giant Mushroom foilage. Terraformed Solstheim or Nothern coast of Morrowind?
Several new Daedra - One of which looks eerily like the Sixth House priests in service to Dagoth Ur

Info found in 1.8 CK update
Player dragon mounts are in.
2 new Achievements are Solstheim Explorer, of which you need to discover 30 locations, and Stalhrim Crafter

Info found in 1.8 Updates
The next DLC will be called Dragonborn and it will be set on the island of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Solstheim.
The main locations you will be able to visit are http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Raven_Rock, Miraak Temple, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Castle_Karstaag and a Telvanni tower (N.B.: Not the Telvanni Tower seen in Morrowind in Vivec, but http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Tel_Uvirith).
There will be some new armor types, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Bonemold, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Chitin, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Nordic and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Raw_Stalhrim each having heavy and light classifications.
Out of these new materials, you will be able to craft new types items out of two of them, namely Stalhrim and Nordic.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Spears will be added along with an array of new creatures/automotons, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Riekling#Riekling, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Scrib#Scrib, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Netch#Netch, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Boar#Boar, Benthic Lurker, Ballista Centurion, and something with an internal name of HMDaedra, quite possibly referring to http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Hermaeus_Mora since it lists his plane of oblivion, Apocrypha. You will also be able to ride dragons and be in combat while mounted on one.

http://i.imgur.com/gF1hJ.png is what the quest header for Dragonborn Quests will look like, and http://i.imgur.com/AJu91.png is what the compass markers look like for the new locations.
From the top, clockwise: Telvanni Tower, To Solstheim, Raven Rock, Castle Karstaag, Standing Stones, To Skyrim, Miraak Temple.

There will be at least two new tracked stats: Dragonborn Quests Completed, and Stalhrim Items Crafted

You will travel to Solstheim via a boat, much like you did in Bloodmoon, although this time, it looks like you may at least get a partial visual boat ride.
The Telvanni tower has float up and down animations, so no levitation it seems.
Dragon riding will take place in its own world space

Mounted combat looks like it's getting an improvement with the ability to cast spells while mounted, tihs isn't necessarily a Dragonborn only thing though!

It appears that Update 1.8 readies Skyrim for PS3 DLC.

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Misinformation:
Weapon degrading -- There's nothing to indicate this is added, that isn't to say it can't/won't be added however. There was just no "new" information in this update. The degradation stuff seen previously has all been renemants from previous CK games (Fallout)
H2H stuff, That was my diff program messing up, sorry :)
Release dates -- No one but Bethesda knows!

Other stuff that I can't put my finger on or give intelligent guesses about because of lack of information
Miraak death animation, Chieftain animations, Chisel animations (perhaps new crafting station for the new armor.. doubt it though), Storn Death Reaction animation & Storn Suit Stages, Frea, Pray, StonePickUp, KillMoveDLC02RipHeartOut, TreeAmbush
There also seem to be a lot more animation files for running with weapons. No idea why.
Dwarven Ballista -- Possibly a new trap? http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Dwemer_Ballista#Dwemer_Ballista

Previous Threads
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417092-hints-found-about-the-next-dlc-found-in-18-beta/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417136-18-beta-update-and-dragonborn-dlc-hints-discussion/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417175-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417237-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hintsagain/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417280-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417375-18-beta-update-new-dlc-discussion/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417315-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417456-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-10/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417500-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-11/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417552-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-12/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417570-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-13/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417620-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-14/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417703-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-15/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417802-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-16/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417929-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-17/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418010-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-18/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418096-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-thread-19/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418331-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-20/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418474-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-21/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418670-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-22/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418874-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-23/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419074-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-24/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419436-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-25/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419724-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-26/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419844-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-27, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420204-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-28, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420420-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-29/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420627-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-30/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420666-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-31/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420699-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-32/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420797-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-33/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420887-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-34/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420987-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-35/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421043-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-36/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421094-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-37/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421130-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-38/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421151-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-39/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421157-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-40/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421165-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-41/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421172-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-42/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421192-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-43/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421221-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-44/

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All of the above is speculation over new strings found in the files from the 1.8 update, and should not be treated as facts or as any proof that any of it will even make it into the game! (but you all already knew that, didn't you!... Didn't you?) They were found by comparing 1.7.7.0 files with those in 1.8.145.0. The update to the Beta (i.e. 1.8.151.0) gave no new information.

You want proof, look at http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/page__view__findpost__p__21660925 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/page__view__findpost__p__21660876 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417175-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/page__view__findpost__p__21656816 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/page__view__findpost__p__21653361, and http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417092-hints-found-about-the-next-dlc-found-in-18-beta/page__view__findpost__p__21654653 for dragon riding. Also, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421192-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-43/page__view__findpost__p__21749310 for the CK Update.

Also you can look through (my) Mardoxx' previous posts http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&andor_type=and&sid=dc5763cc2fa8668a67e4ba28567b4374&search_author=Mardoxx&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_content=both&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5Bforums%5D%5B%5D=118&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BnoPreview%5D=0&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpCount%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpViews%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortDir%5D=0&search_term=&search_app=forums&st=0

For official announcements, check http://www.bethblog.com/category/skyrim and the official forums here.

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Connie Thomas
 
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:25 pm

I love the look of that new dragon. LOVE IT. Looks kind of like a moray, so possibly aquatic.
Everything else? Looks damn exciting (except the dragon mounts). Probably the best DLC yet. :biggrin:
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:50 pm

Hermaeus-Mora's Daedra... I better be able to summon them.



Another xbox exclusive? sigh...


Looks awesome nonetheless! At least now we have a clear idea who are mysterious friend is. I wonder what we will learn from Hermaeus-Mora's realm.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:34 pm

One more support for Divayth Fyr being there: The Scourge. He was reading about it in Morrowind; there was the book of it on his table.
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Kevin S
 
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:07 pm

Morian Zenas. Hoping to see this guy, or at least some mention of him in Apocrypha.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:16 pm

"Riding dragons is Lame! Oooohh, water dragons, awesome!"

*sigh*

THere have been ten threads since 12:00 last night LOL
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:01 pm

The presence of what seems to be Corprus Stalkers is... interesting. I was under the impression corprus no longer existed thanks to the Nerevarine.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:33 pm

Hermaeus-Mora's Daedra... I better be able to summon them.

I'm not familiar with his Daedra myself.. and the Daedra I do know of I don't remember what Princes they serve :tongue:.

Another xbox exclusive? sigh...

Don't they do that with all DLCs though? :shrug:

I wonder what we will learn from Hermaeus-Mora's realm.

Part of me cares more for this than anything else, though I am curious to know who this particular Dragonborn is as well as meeting Divayth Fyr (I keep forgetting how to spell his first name).
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:46 am





Don't they do that with all DLCs though? :shrug:


Only the first two, at least according to the Microsoft contract they've signed. I don't understand why it's still exclusive unless there was some 'fine print' on the contract stating the DLC had to meet a certain price threshold.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:16 pm

My question is, are they going to completely forsake PS3 again? or actually get us the DLC?
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:14 am

OMFG Goblins! The ONE thing that i wanted from the game jam. Sweet.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:16 am

Mardoxxx, the Stahlrim armour pic shows the goblins with the spears.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:43 am

Here's the question then: with a Telvanni tower and a Daedric realm (and possibly even good ole Divayth) Will there be new spells?
A lot of the ones added in DG were very.. contextual. Sun magic vs. Soul Cairn conjuration, but I can't think of any for D-Born.
I would've thought the mage type armor at 0:50, but I have a feeling that is Dovah related (It glows and makes the same sound as a Dragon Soul. You have a Dragon around you!)
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:16 am

Really hoping that you don't have to start the main quest to do this DLC, I avoid it like the plague.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:23 am

At 00:50 you can see what might be a new spell or shout. It's like bound armor, or a new alteration spell.

And, I may be crazy, but at 1:04ish, those enemies freeze, as if time stopped, not slowed, and the PC is moving. There's also an effect behind them. Spell, shout, who knows. Might even be a weapon enchantment cause they are blocking with a sword.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:35 pm

Only the first two, at least according to the Microsoft contract they've signed. I don't understand why it's still exclusive unless there was some 'fine print' on the contract stating the DLC had to meet a certain price threshold.

I don't mind it being exclusive myself.. hell, even after Dawnguard came out for PC after 30 days I didn't buy it until a month or so later.


Another thing I'm looking forward to that I haven't mentioned yet is the Morrowind style landscape.. and since we're taking a ship to Solstheim, I'm going to guess it will be around Windhelm since it's nearest to that area.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:51 am

AAAAAAAW YEEEEEAAAAH!!! Dragonborn vs Dragonborn! Yes, yes the word is tossed around frequently for relatively mundane aspects, but by this I mean the proper definition: this DLC looks epic.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:14 pm

Mardoxxx, the Stahlrim armour pic shows the goblins with the spears.
Oh yes, thanks. I'll remove it.
Was Stahlrim armour shown in the video? If so, at what time?
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:31 pm

Who knows who the narrator is? Awesome voice, gives me the goosebumps.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:00 pm

Official information
Officially called Dragonborn.
Sadly, on 360, presumably, as a 30 exclusive 360, on December 4th 2012 for 1600 Microsoft Points.
It is marketed as a game Add-On, like Dawnguard. Hearthfire was not. Take what you will from that....


At least it'll be inb4 the Apocalypse. AMIRITE?!!!!!!!?
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:21 am


And, I may be crazy, but at 1:04ish, those enemies freeze, as if time stopped, not slowed, and the PC is moving. There's also an effect behind them. Spell, shout, who knows. Might even be a weapon enchantment cause they are blocking with a sword.
I'm convinced its just the block perk that lets you slow time whilst an enemy attacks, whilst bashing with a fire enchanted swords.. but I know I'm probably wrong :D
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:45 pm

I'm convinced its just the block perk that lets you slow time whilst an enemy attacks, whilst bashing with a fire enchanted swords.. but I know I'm probably wrong :biggrin:

Oh, I didn't know there was such a perk. Sorry. I don't do block.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:59 pm

Oh yes, thanks. I'll remove it.
Was Stahlrim armour shown in the video? If so, at what time?
Not an expert here. :P
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:18 pm

Who knows who the narrator is? Awesome voice, gives me the goosebumps.

Yes, it will be interesting to see who he is.. there's a lot of people I look forward to meeting in this though :P.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:59 pm

don't quote me on this but the picture with the books might be hermaeus mora's plane.
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