[Terry]

Probably not I. I like using Pistols and Semi-Automatic Rifles.

another one lost to the darkness
:toughninja: but I may not agree with what you have to say but i will defend to the death your right to say it

[Danielle Brown]

I kinda wanna know what the mods will be for the 10mm SMG still, I am really hoping for a mod that makes it held like a rifle instead of a held like a pistol with two hands. As basicly that that would make it a MP5, so a shoulder rest mod type thing, silencer and reflex scope or any scope period would be niiice.

Shoulder rest? You mean a stock?

[Sam Parker]

Ive killed plenty of critters with pellets fired from my air rifle, 800+ FPS on four pumps, i love it.

Have you ever killed a person with it? Yeah, that's the point...

[maddison]

P.S. who else will be using pump action shotguns and assault rifles for most of the game?

Pistols, Semi-Auto Rifles, Sniper Rifles, Riot Shotgun, and a Machete.

[Sanctum]

Have you ever killed a person with it? Yeah, that's the point...

You can kill buffalo with some high powered air rifles, I don't doubt you could kill a person.

[Schel[Anne]FTL]

A Shotgun, a Revolver, a single-shot Rifle (bolt/lever action), and a Machete.

[Liii BLATES]

My guess would be some kind of scope.

P.S. who else will be using pump action shotguns and assault rifles for most of the game?

Add a sniper and thats all Im going to use. Open with sneak n snipe. Switch to assault, then shotgun for whoever is still standing.

[Amy Cooper]

You can kill buffalo with some high powered air rifles, I don't doubt you could kill a person.

With a Red Ryder BB Gun? I don't think so.

@fallouthreeboy That's not funny... at all.

[Queen of Spades]

Have you ever killed a person with it? Yeah, that's the point...

indeed i have i was the first to shoot kenedy and they gave the credit to oswald i hate that cartoon octopus

[Milad Hajipour]

You can kill buffalo with some high powered air rifles, I don't doubt you could kill a person.

This. I have never killed another person with it. Injured? Hell yes, he was trying to steal my bike, but that's another story...

[Ebony Lawson]

That's the point dude, a BB gun is useless in the Fallout world (where everyone has got assault rifles and shotguns) and there you won't find a air powered gun strong enought to kill osmething bigger than a giant rat or radroch.

[jason worrell]

Who else wants special combat animations? For instance, instead of simply slashing with a melee weapon, why not stab occasionally? And instead of just punching for unarmed, how about we kick every now and again? And I've always wanted to be able to sit down next to my mark at a bar and say "Sorry, friend, your bad for buisness..." and then pull out my magnum and slowly place it against his head, squeezing the trigger, and watching him fall to the floor, then ordering some scotch.

Oh yeah, who else thinks that it would actually show you drinking while you drank and eating when you ate, or how about we make useless items usefull? Like maybe we could actually smoke cigerattes or cigars, the ciggerattes whould increase charisma around certain people, and decrease it around others, and the cigar would increase it around everybody. (because they smell good)

[Flash]

Who else wants special combat animations? For instance, instead of simply slashing with a melee weapon, why not stab occasionally? And instead of just punching for unarmed, how about we kick every now and again? And I've always wanted to be able to sit down next to my mark at a bar and say "Sorry, friend, your bad for buisness..." and then pull out my magnum and slowly place it against his head, squeezing the trigger, and watching him fall to the floor, then ordering some scotch.

Oh yeah, who else thinks that it would actually show you drinking while you drank and eating when you ate, or how about we make useless items usefull? Like maybe we could actually smoke cigerattes or cigars, the ciggerattes whould increase charisma around certain people, and decrease it around others, and the cigar would increase it around everybody. (because they smell good)

You can, each melee weapon has a special move, for example, 9-Iron is Fore!.

[Amysaurusrex]

With a Red Ryder BB Gun? I don't think so.

@fallouthreeboy That's not funny... at all.

Actually, yes, they do make incredibly high powered air rifles for hunting, no joke. Google it and see for yourself.

[Alkira rose Nankivell]

That's the point dude, a BB gun is useless in the Fallout world (where everyone has got assault rifles and shotguns).

You CAN kill with one, but its mostly for killing small animals

[Vicki Blondie]

You can, each melee weapon has a special move, for example, 9-Iron is Fore!.

Cool, I didnt know that

[Robert Jackson]

Actually, yes, they do make incredibly high powered air rifles for hunting, no joke. Google it and see for yourself.

A Red Ryder BB Gun.... There are no high-powered air rifles in the game, so far.

[Jerry Jr. Ortiz]

You CAN kill with one, but its mostly for killing small animals

Belive me, if he's armed, he will kill you first if your only defence is a BB gun. You probably have more chance with your fist than with that gun.

[Niisha]

You CAN kill with one, but its mostly for killing small animals

Sure, maybe with a hit straight through the temple, not much else a Red Ryder BB Gun can do.

[Chris Guerin]

With a Red Ryder BB Gun? I don't think so.

@fallouthreeboy That's not funny... at all.

That's the point dude, a BB gun is useless in the Fallout world (where everyone has got assault rifles and shotguns).

Well, the stock lever action Red Ryder style BB gun could probably kill a man in 50 shots, but that's besides the point. The point is that this is a world where you can put together a vacuum cleaner and a leaf blower and some other junk, and use it to propel garden gnomes at high speeds to kill you.

It's not too far fetched that you could put an extremely powerful hopup mod on your BB gun to give it something like 1500 FPS, which is more than capable of taking down a man, or a buffalo for that matter, and what's more, it's quiet.
What's the point of the .22 SMG and Pistol after all? You start out with the 9mm pistol, and soon get a 9mm SMG. It's because they're easily silenced. Quiet guns for stealthy characters.

And even without such a mod, you could find a BB gun is useful as a less lethal weapon that can knock people out, like the Beanbag rounds for the shotgun.
There most certainly is a reason to use a BB gun.

Who else wants special combat animations? For instance, instead of simply slashing with a melee weapon, why not stab occasionally? And instead of just punching for unarmed, how about we kick every now and again? And I've always wanted to be able to sit down next to my mark at a bar and say "Sorry, friend, your bad for buisness..." and then pull out my magnum and slowly place it against his head, squeezing the trigger, and watching him fall to the floor, then ordering some scotch.

Oh yeah, who else thinks that it would actually show you drinking while you drank and eating when you ate, or how about we make useless items usefull? Like maybe we could actually smoke cigerattes or cigars, the ciggerattes whould increase charisma around certain people, and decrease it around others, and the cigar would increase it around everybody. (because they smell good)

Yes please, I want all of that. Especially the second part. The animations are there, why not use them?

[Naomi Lastname]

Well, the stock lever action Red Ryder style BB gun could probably kill a man in 50 shots, but that's besides the point. The point is that this is a world where you can put together a vacuum cleaner and a leaf blower and some other junk, and use it to propel garden gnomes at high speeds to kill you.

It's not too far fetched that you could put an extremely powerful hopup mod on your BB gun to give it something like 1500 FPS, which is more than capable of taking down a man, or a buffalo for that matter, and what's more, it's quiet.
What's the point of the .22 SMG and Pistol after all? You start out with the 9mm pistol, and soon get a 9mm SMG. It's because they're easily silenced. Quiet guns for stealthy characters.

And even without such a mod, you could find a BB gun is useful as a less lethal weapon that can knock people out, like the Beanbag rounds for the shotgun.
There most certainly is a reason to use a BB gun.


Yes please, I want all of that. Especially the second part. The animations are there, why not use them?

Did you used the Red Ryder BB gun in FO3 besides form the start, when you are obligated to use it for pratice? Me neither, also, I don't think much of the people used it. The point of all this is that there is no need of modding it, no one would spend an expensive (maybe not, but still) gun mod in a BB gun rather then in a Varmint Rifle for exemple.

[Jack]

BB Sniper Gun. silent and hilariously effective.

[john palmer]

Well, the stock lever action Red Ryder style BB gun could probably kill a man in 50 shots, but that's besides the point. The point is that this is a world where you can put together a vacuum cleaner and a leaf blower and some other junk, and use it to propel garden gnomes at high speeds to kill you.

It's not too far fetched that you could put an extremely powerful hopup mod on your BB gun to give it something like 1500 FPS, which is more than capable of taking down a man, or a buffalo for that matter, and what's more, it's quiet.
What's the point of the .22 SMG and Pistol after all? You start out with the 9mm pistol, and soon get a 9mm SMG. It's because they're easily silenced. Quiet guns for stealthy characters.

And even without such a mod, you could find a BB gun is useful as a less lethal weapon that can knock people out, like the Beanbag rounds for the shotgun.
There most certainly is a reason to use a BB gun.

I'm all for darts in a BB gun, that'd make it an extremely effective weapon, but the BB Gun buy its self.... It's barely good enough to kill Radroaches.
The .22 is much more effective than a BB gun. Only a shot to the head would knock someone out, and thats just if they aren't wearing any headgear.
And doesn't Hop-Up just put backspin on the BB? It's not going to double the FPS. The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Ryder_BB_Gun only shoots 350fps.

[Taylor Bakos]

Did you used the Red Ryder BB gun in FO3 besides form the start, when you are obligated to use it for pratice? Me neither, also, I don't think much of the people used it.

I used it until the ammo ran out, then I put it on my shelf in my home.
I would have used it more if
A. it could knock people out.
It would have been great to be able to mug people by sneak attacking them in the head with a BB, knocking them cold and grabbing their stuff.

And/Or

B. could be modded
I forsee mods for a BB gun looking something like this: Fast action, Poison chamber (allows you to coat BBs with poisons), and hopup system (brings weapon's DAM some what closer to say, the varmint rifle.)

In this case yes, I would have used it more.

[N Only WhiTe girl]

You CAN kill with one, but its mostly for killing small animals

but there are very few animals small enough in FNV to be killed with an air rifle it is mostly just there for the chuckle factor
and bos stealth guy my condolences on your dead sense of humor