Scrolls down last page that happened while i was asleep for posts from Vsions......... DAMMIT!!!

I hate when people complain about how the Vampire Lord is not in the lore. Bethesda probably made up a good story as to why the Vampire Lords exist, at least this is what I believe because they can come up with some cool stories and lore.

I am sorry this is funny. Yes they are making stuff up the lore is not real its something they made up. And you expect them to build every game off of something they made up years ago. Times change, ideas change. so they have to evolve and keep pace.

I wonder if Vampire Ladies look like Van Helsing movie female vampires? You don't think they'll just copy and paste the Vampire Lord model like the Werewolfs would they?

Hmm wonder if the other races have unique Vampire Lord models, like the Khajit and Argonians for example. They would have unique body and head model for that form.

i would just like to point out that this game or whole series is based off of LOTR... or had most of its inspirational from it

Because Bethesda always rolled this way?

Sometimes I think people don't really get this "role friendliness" thing, when they deem something that wasn't mentioned before as role unfriendly. How can it be unfriendly if it does not go against the lore, but does not follow it either. Like I tend to say, nowhere in Daggerfall it was mentioned that Morrowind is a xenophobic theocracy with an alien landscape and bugs and mushrooms everywhere...
Especially if the lore is vague just for this very reason. Like how does the Vampire lord appearance goes against the lore, we never seen an actual Vokihar vampire and the main thing we know about them that they are monstrous. And the Vampire Lords do look monstrous.

I'm honestly extremely happy with the look, many instantly thought of comparisons to Underworld, Van Helsing and Dracula -- and while accurate observations, it's not what I saw when I first witnessed the Vampire lord form, I instead thought about their similarities to the creator of the vampires ( depending on the lore) http://images.uesp.net/thumb/e/e4/OB-quest-Molag_Bal.jpg/180px-OB-quest-Molag_Bal.jpg Molag Bal who aside from his elongated face, bears similarities to the vampire lord shown, although perhaps not as much as other comparisons, that's just what jumped out to me.

I'm just going to repost what I said before. This argument seems to keep popping up...

Regarding vampire lords breaking lore. Consider this: vampires in the world of Nirn are shrouded in myth, folklore, and half truths. The majority of npcs in oblivion don't think vampires can EVER see the sunlight. In the book "the locked room" the author apperently believes that vampires pass out once the sun rises, only to awaken when it sets. So you see, there's a lot of falsehoods and misconceptions and simple unknowns about vampires. Whose to say that vampire lords were just largely unknown ane scarcely written about. They seem to be very clever and powerful and likely hid their presence. The Cyrodiilic vampires aren't the only ones who can take human form. If you're well versed in the lore you'd know that some vampire tribes are shapeshifters / bodysnatchers and take the form of children they feed on, only to live in that person's family, waiting for a moment to strike. Anytime someone saw vampire lords it was probably an isolated incident and therefore got chalked up as local folklore. Long story short, it's easy to find these guys a place in TES lore.

My point isn't that volkihar vampires shouldn't have been in he game. They should have, and I've complained about that in the past. I just found it odd that you're chalking this up as cheesey and unoriginal when we still barely know anything. And Vampires having ice powers is not an original idea either. Yes, the way Bethesda EXECUTED it was original, but that's my point. For all we know these vampire lords will have unique lore and be executed well. Thats what's important. You can trace any idea back and "prove" it's a copy of something else. Tolkien's work was based on folklore, and folklore was based off of misinterpretations of real things. You can trace it all back. It just bothers me when someone takes such a small amount of info, plasters a "copied" stamp on it and calls it a day.

And here's a quote from the game's art designer, Vsions:

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Psychotrip,

vsions has just posted a reply to a topic that you have subscribed to titled "So what are your thoughts on The Vampire Lords Appearance?".

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Vampire Lord, like many other existing vampire media was inspired by previous gampire media. I think once you get to see it more clearly though you will see that we did put our own spin on it. I can understand some of you wanting something very different but is it any different than the fact that our regular vampires have the same look as existing vampire from popular media? (vampire eyes/vampire fangs/bloodsvckers) how is that really any different? That being said, I do not think you guys are wrong in wanting something totally different looking but we felt this direction was a good fit for what most people would like. Fear not though guys and gals, they have some really cool powers and if your still not convinced, you can always kill those dirty bloodsvckers "

I for one think they look great That being said, I'm a gonna say it again..... There had better be something for us werewolves or else
I know many compare it to " Underworld " or " Twilight " but it could be worse, all you vamps could be stuck with a Dracula looking vamp lord http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/dracula.jpg

Those are modern werewolves, real werewolves in lore look pretty much like wild wolves but without a tail

Also, how are these vampires any less original in appearance than the vampires TES has always had? They used to all look like humans. How is that original? All we know now is what the vampire lords look like so thats all we can compare for now in terms of originality.

Lore wise they didn't all look like humans. Only the Cyrodiilic vampires could blend in, and that was after a pact with Claviucs Vile. All other vampires you can clearly tell are vampires before thy start trying to eat you.

Lore-wise they looked like generic mutated humans. Much less original than the vampire lords

Edit: and the cyrodiilic vampires are NOT the only ones able to blend in. There are some tribes that posess / shapeshift into children and live in their families

Thanks for the response Visions! I have deeep faith in Bethesda and I know that the DLC is about to be amazing!!!!

No Thank you Vsions for truly listening to us and the fact that you posted on this thread is mind blowing! I am very excited for Dawnguard and very pleased on how the Lord came out. Would Just like fuller wings lol!

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