im just stating the obvious that if crytek subtracts anything,scales down anything & neglects to capitalize on any of playstation 3's raw capabilities & advanced techniques available at developers disposal without efficiently & properly pushing playstationn 3 to the maximum then they fail as developers.

[quote]im just stating the obvious that if crytek subtracts anything,scales down anything & neglects to capitalize on any of playstation 3's raw capabilities & advanced techniques available at developers disposal without efficiently & properly pushing playstationn 3 to the maximum then they fail as developers.[/quote]

Lol I'm sure that Crysis 2 maxed will give a high-end gaming rig a run for it's money let alone a PS3. IIRC, the graphics processor on the 360 is actually more powerful than the gpu on the PS3 (although I'm sure many will be quick to point out that the parallel design of the cell allows for developers to balance some of the gpu's load onto the cpu). For all intensive purposes I'm sure the game will look great on all platforms. If you're someone who is really picky about graphics, you're probably going to be playing on a pc anyway....

Besides, games look better anyway when they're played on a big-screen TV, rather than a small(er) pc monitor.

Like Zezeri, my biggest concern about possible "port-itis" for C2 would probably be in the gameplay dynamics, suit modes, NS2 controls, level design, etc. and NOT the graphical fidelity.

What mangsosango said

Plus, there is no actual Uber console, each has its strengths and weakness. But I know that everyone tends to build a connection to the console and favor it to other ones. So if he hears from somewhere, it's better he'll start believing it very quickly. And this is for both sides, xbox and ps3. Very usual actually. Look at PC, it's the same there with AMD vs Nvidia...

If you're picky enough to examine every single detail in the differences between the consoles, then you should be playing on the PC anyway

[quote]im just stating the obvious that if crytek subtracts anything,scales down anything & neglects to capitalize on any of playstation 3's raw capabilities & advanced techniques available at developers disposal without efficiently & properly pushing playstationn 3 to the maximum then they fail as developers.[/quote]

I am afraid you do not have the authority or technical knowledge to even know the maximum of what the PS3 is capable of. Unfortunately, the PS3's maximum potential has just about reached its limit. You CANNOT get more calculations out of something that has a SET AMOUNT OF CALCULATIONS. The Cell and RSX only have so many transistors - THEY CANNOT BE INCREASED.

Code Effeciency.

@ Zezeri - As myself and Tom have stated numerous times, we don't have this information to release at this time. All I am saying is that the community should be going from proven and trusted sources, not rumours or incomplete information.

Taking care of the community IS exactly my job, but what we don't do is make statements about issues that we are not willing to go into for various reasons. This could be due to time constraints or which particular topic we are covering on a month by month basis.

Your input is baiting, minimal and adds nothing to the conversation.

[quote]@ Zezeri - As myself and Tom have stated numerous times, we don't have this information to release at this time. All I am saying is that the community should be going from proven and trusted sources, not rumours or incomplete information.

Taking care of the community IS exactly my job, but what we don't do is make statements about issues that we are not willing to go into for various reasons. This could be due to time constraints or which particular topic we are covering on a month by month basis.

Your input is baiting, minimal and adds nothing to the conversation.[/quote]

+100.

The controversy of the definition of "port" doesn't even matter. Every version will be the same gameplay wise, and the graphics automatically scale to each version. Whether the engine does this by "porting" does not matter. Each version will have the same pros and cons as the other version, and how the livecreate function works is truly astonishing and a great piece of technology.

Talon95@ my information is legit & checks out & if every version is identical then crytek lied about hitting the graphical ceiling of playstation 3. Prove me wrong with some factual evidence or maybe you should hand your position to somebody that actually knows what their talking about.

crytek you have make mixed statements in multiple interviews so why should anybody believe them after all that because i know im finding what their saying extremely hard to believe at this point which i may end up renting it to be safe & gowith a sure bet which is killzone 3.

thatsonyguy1981 Could you pull your thumb out of your ass or is this going to be an I'm right you're wrong discussion. To me this thread has provided facts not opinions and you haven't given a single valid statement. But please next time you post here provide us with your reason why Crytek hasn't pushed the consoles to their limits.

@Lee
Actually I can understand that you can't provide info on this one and I don't expect you to. But you know, sometimes when I see posts like that, I just can't help but commenting on something that might not add to the discussion. But this has a reason.

Deleting threads (yes I mean knock knock), that are critical to the community without even giving a statement why or what's going to happen doesn't really add in my believe that you're interested in having a discussion with the community.

I'm not saying you don't have any interest at all, but you might consider that your actions are actually causing reactions. And if stuff like that happens, you can expect to hear something different than just positive input. We've tried it for a year, with both constructive and non-constructive constributions and 5 threads in total. And now look where we are standing now?

Despite the fact that your priorities might lay somewhere else at the moment, this is not an appropriate behaviour torwards the community.

Now I'm really curious if you're brave enough to answer me on this one...

[quote]@ Zezeri - As myself and Tom have stated numerous times, we don't have this information to release at this time. All I am saying is that the community should be going from proven and trusted sources, not rumours or incomplete information.[/quote]
How can we tell if something is a missinformation if you don't comment on it?

And in case your forgot which thread I was referring to in my previous post:
http://www.gamesas.com/forums/feedback_support/knock_knock_crytek_its_about_time_we_got_some_dang_answers

Crytek keeps changing their statements during interviews,only shows off gameplay publicly of the 360 & pc versions & avoids giving straight answers regarding the playstation 3 version during interviews.I am still not convinced their pushing the playstation 3 to the best of it's ability with crysis 2.

@Zezeri, the *second* knock knock thread (the one you linked) was removed because after asking the community to keep it on topic, the request was ignored and it had gone down the spam path. I'm not going to pull this topic off track either by going into more detail but if you wish, PM me on Crymod.

Original thread is still available here, so please continue any conversation on that topic there: http://www.gamesas.com/forums/feedback_support/knock_knock_iv_new_thread

Cheers!

p.s; as for THIS topic - i have nothing to add other than blatant fanboism is a really ugly disease

The old thread couldn't be accessed for quite some time, because there are no pages bascially and the topic was too old. So, if you close/delete one, then make at least a statement in the other one

Zezeri, I pretty much requested closure of that thread. We all know that we won't get anywhere with Crytek, so what's the point in continuing?

We didn't delete the 'Knock Knock' threads, we unpublished them.

We are well aware of the current opinion on this particular question, but as you have seen over the past year, we are unable to give an answer.

More like unwilling to be straight with gamers about crysis 2's from technical view on all platforms because i hate being lied too.

[quote]More like unwilling to be straight with gamers about crysis 2's from technical view on all platforms because i hate being lied too.[/quote]

Lee wasn't even talking to you, and he wouldn't be able to answer you anyway. =/ Lee was referring to Crysis Wars legacy support, which is nonexistent.

I hope crytek is going to atleast put out a demo for all versions of the final version of crysis 2 so i can decide for myself if the game is worth buying or renting because im not wasting my money if it isn't has good as cryteks hyping up crysis 2 to be.

@Talon95 well excuse me....jerk!

You are the one trolling with 3 posts in a row throughout multiple topics, and its very difficult to discuss things with you. But I'm not going to sit here and play the "No you!" game..

There is no news on a demo, but you might get a shot at the beta.

Why does everyone always say that games look better on the big TV's and PC monitors? They're basicly the same because you can connect PC's to TVs, just like you can connect consoles to the TV's. You just need an HDMI / Sometimes VGA cable, that's all.

[quote]Why does everyone always say that games look better on the big TV's and PC monitors? They're basicly the same because you can connect PC's to TVs, just like you can connect consoles to the TV's. You just need an HDMI / Sometimes VGA cable, that's all.[/quote]

You sit farther away from a TV, so you dont see as many of the imperfections. It's just an effect. Case-in-point: Watch a movie like Avatar on a small ipod touch or pmp screen and then watch it again on a 50" hdtv with surround sound or in-theaters. Most people would say that the movie looks better on a larger screen.

[quote]Crytek keeps changing their statements during interviews,only shows off gameplay publicly of the 360 & pc versions & avoids giving straight answers regarding the playstation 3 version during interviews.I am still not convinced their pushing the playstation 3 to the best of it's ability with crysis 2.[/quote]

Also, once again, if the graphics/performance of a game bother you that much just play it on a damn pc.... You are worrying that the most advanced/fastest high-end 3d rendering software will not use all of the measly 204 GFLOPs that the cell can push out. I'm pretty sure that with all of the effects and AA turned up, Crysis will give the gtx 480 and its 1.35 TFLOPs a run for its money, let alone aging console hardware. And I'm sure that the framerate will be locked in at 30fps - iirc in the New York Crysis 2 event in march, cevat said the game (in the pre-alpha stage it was back then) had a minimum of 30FPS. I think the quote was "30fps was our target, there is nothing below 30fps" or something to that effect. You guys need to stop worrying, it's bad for your health