Whom Do You Side With: Stormcloaks Or Imperials (Give Reason

Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:38 am

I side with the Empire. Both sides of this conflict have their good points and bad points, but I see the Empire as the better of two bad choices.
What!? Your on the EMPIRES Side now!?
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Jimmie Allen
 
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:20 am

Stormcloaks

We are the 99%
Imperial investors gaining huge sums of gold in bonuses while the good Nordic folk of Skyrim suffer in poverty whilst the income gap expands

FUS RO DAH!
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:11 am

My young nordic warrior sides with the Stormcloaks due to personal faith. My main is a breton and will join the Imperial Legion for the sake of High Rock. I've just started a renegade Imperial archer, whose loyalty is very much his own... so we'll see.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:51 am

What!? Your on the EMPIRES Side now!?
Yep. I still stand by my points about the good sides of the Stoemcloaks and the bad ones for the Empire, but I rather have the Empire. But yes, I have been very indecisive for a long time.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:40 pm


I would disagree. I am 250 hours in on my character, roleplaying and no fast travel. I haven't started the civil war, gone to the top of High Hrothgar, got as far as Mzulft, or even joined the Thieves', DB or Companions, as they would not be the sort of things this character would do. Haven't come any where near to running out of stuff to do.

If you join for the quests, then some of them might not sit well with that character, but in that case joining might be something that should have been saved for another character anyway. Please don't misunderstand, I am not trying to tell you how to play, it's just my personal tastes and opinion that only doing what suits that character can be a lot more enjoyable than getting one character to do everything.
Spot on with this mate, I'd say I got caught up in the moment and joined the STC, but iam starting to regret it..I see myself as a servivalist, warrior Blacksmith, Archer. swordsman. Only last night i found all the remaining people from whiterun, hiding in someones castle saying how they hated me after they made me Thane yet i sided with the stormcloaks
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:16 pm

Storm Cloaks - a divided Tamriel is more easily conquered by the Thalmor

I was playing as a High Elf and so Ulfric was being totally racist against me... so I ended up siding with the Imperials so I could kill his ass.

Oh everyone one of the Storm Cloaks is racist and my character is looking at them and I'm thinking don't they realize I'm an altmer. Oh well, I'm going to enjoy conquering Skyrim after we kick the imperials out adn stamping out all these Talos worshipping dogs.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:37 am

I always side with the Imperials.

I'm glad that there is no good or bad in the war though.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:41 pm

People never get tired of this topic huh?

Neither side is good or evil, if there's any dichotomy here, I see it as the Empire being lawful neutral and the Stormcloaks being chaotic neutral. I've got a chaotic good Nord that's playing the Stormcloak side now, but I mostly like lawful characters so, for the most part, Empire for me.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:33 am

could this be the 100th imperial vs stormcloack thread ?

btw, I tried both, but my first choice was Stormcloaks
1000th, you mean.

Stormcloaks all the way. Love the chance to send the bloody Romans packing. With dragons, no less.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:45 pm

Six characters. None of them have started the Civil War questline, because it is a war without purpose. I despised the main quest when it intertwined with the Civil War, and is the sole reason I will not finish the main quest on more than one character. I doubt I will ever start the Civil War on any character. I enjoy the game, combat, exploration, and world design, but the writing and stories told this time around were bland, short, and irritating, to say the least (though not as bad as DA2 ;)).
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:39 pm

Stormcloaks.

Why? first off, choping my head without trial for whatever crime they thought I commited (wrong place, wrong time) doesn't sit well with me, especially when the Imperial High Commander was there and witnessed the woman saying 'it don't matter kill em anyway' and does nothing.

Second. The Empire banning and suppresion of Talos under threat of the Thalmor is pathetic and cowardly. Its something no other previous Emperor would have even considered and know it or not they are helping the Thalmor's plans for world destruction.

Third. Freedom.

Storm Cloaks - a divided Tamriel is more easily conquered by the Thalmor



Oh everyone one of the Storm Cloaks is racist and my character is looking at them and I'm thinking don't they realize I'm an altmer. Oh well, I'm going to enjoy conquering Skyrim after we kick the imperials out adn stamping out all these Talos worshipping dogs.

It is certainly not true that they are all racist, and a Divided Tamriel is really not in the best interests to the Thalmor, they just don't know it.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:19 am

My first playthrough, with a nord warrior/death incarnate tank, I sided with stormcloaks. Not purely because I was a nord...but because I thought Ulfric had the right ideal's regarding Skyrim. After playing the whole storyline, I realised that when Ulfric says "Skyrim belongs to the nords" or anything similar...he means ONLY the nords. Having a dunmer mage as my longtime companion and having her save my nordic @ss more then once...I didn't like Ulfric's (and a good chunk of winterhold's) view on forigners. Then after hearing his numerous speach's, it shows he's out to further his own agenda in becoming high king. Granted, some good does come out of the stormcloaks winning...but by the end it wasen't enough.

My second playthrough, with a dunmer thief, I sided with the imperials despite their trying to remove my head. I didn't like that the thalmor had the empire by the nuts, but, I can see why the empire puts up with them...they have power, and after the imperial city was attacked and practically destroyed...the empire is in a weak position. In the end, the empire doesn't like the thalmor, but from a military/business perspective letting them think they own you while your forces regain strength and people isn't a bad idea. I like the empire much more now, they don't have a dislike for other races..which gives them an upperhand, Tullias isn't out to claim Skyrim for himself, nor is the emporer (especially now, since I completed the DB storyline), the only major downside I can see to the empire is the thalmor controlling them. But that doesn't seem like it's going to last much longer.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:17 pm

The Stormcloaks. Because, contrary to popular belief, they're not racist in the slightest and actually have a clue about where they're going, whereas the empire just sits on its haunches and pays Danegeld.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:47 am

Stormcloaks!

For justice, freedom and victory over the empire and their witch-elf puppet-masters !
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:23 am

This is the dialogue you first hear when you meet them, if you stop to listen. It gives a very good view of their position and attitude.
Tullius
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Legate Rikke: Im telling you, Ulfric's planning an attack on Whiterun.
Tullius: He'd be insane to try. He doesn't have the men.
Legate Rikke: That's not what my scouts report, sir. Every day more join his cause. Riften, Dawnstar, and Winterhold support him.
Tullius: It's not a cause. It's a rebellion.
Legate Rikke: Call it whatever you like, General. The man's going to try to take Whiterun.
Tullius: Jarl Balgruuf...
Legate Rikke: Balgruuf refuses the Legion's right to garrison troops in his city. On the other hand, he also refuses to acknowledge Ulfric's claim.
Tullius: Well, if he wants to stand outside the protection of the Empire, fine. Let Ulfric pillage his city.
Legate Rikke: General.
Tullius: You people and your damn Jarls.
Legate Rikke: Sir? You can't force a Nord to accept help he hasn't asked for.
Tullius: If Ulfric's making a move for Whiterun, then we need to be there to stop him. Draft another letter with the usual platitudes, but this time share some of your intelligence regarding Ulfric's plans. Embellish if you have to. We'll let it seem like it's his idea.
Legate Rikke: Yes, sir.
Tullius: You Nords and your bloody sense of honor.
Legate Rikke: Sir.

Ulfric
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Galmar: Balgruuf won't give us a straight answer.
Ulfric: He's a true Nord. He'll come around.
Galmar: Don't be so sure of that. We've intercepted couriers from Solitude. The Empire's putting a great deal of pressure on Whiterun.
Ulfric: And what would you have me do?
Galmar: If he's not with us, he's against us.
Ulfric: He knows that. They all know that.
Galmar: How long are you going to wait?
Ulfric: You think I need to send Balgruuf a stronger message.
Galmar: If by message you mean shoving a sword through his gullet.
Ulfric: Taking his city and leaving him in disgrace would make a more powerful statement, dont you think?
Galmar: So we're ready to start this war in earnest then?
Ulfric: Soon.
Galmar: I still say you should take them all out like you did Deadking Torygg.
Ulfric: Torygg was merely a message to the other Jarls. Whoever we replace them with will need the support of our armies.
Galmar: We're ready when you are.
Ulfric: Things hinge on Whiterun. If we can take the city without bloodshed all the better. But if not...
Galmar: The people are behind you.
Ulfric: Many I fear still need convincing.
Galmar: Then let them die with their false kings.
Ulfric: We've been soldiers a long time. We know the price of freedom. The people are still weighing things in their hearts.
Galmar: What's left of Skyrim to wager?
Ulfric: They have families to think of.
Galmar: How many of their sons and daughters follow your banner? We are their families.
Ulfric: Well put, friend. Tell me, Galmar, why do you fight for me?
Galmar: I'd follow you into the depths of Oblivion, you know that.
Ulfric: Yes, but why do you fight? If not for me, what then?
Galmar: I'll die before elves dictate the fates of men. Are we not one in this?
Ulfric: I fight for the men I've held in my arms, dying on foreign soil. I fight for their wives and children, who's names I heard whispered in their last breaths. I fight for we few who did come home, only to find our country full of strangers wearing familiar faces. I fight for my people impoverished to pay the debts of an Empire too weak to rule them, yet brands them criminals for wanting to rule themselves! I fight so that all the fighting I've already done hasn't been for nothing. I fight...because I must.
Galmar: Your words give voice to what we all feel, Ulfric. And that's why you will be High King. But the day when words are enough, will be the day when soldiers like us are no longer needed.
Ulfric: I would gladly retire from the world were such a day to dawn.
Galmar: Aye. But in the meantime, we have a war to plan.

Conclusion: Ulfric honorable. Tullius not so much.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:21 am

They should have an option to side with the Thalmor.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:48 am

Stormcloaks

+ Talos worship.
+ Harder to control for the Thalmor
+ Willing to side with other provinces
+ Intelligent, charasmatic leader.
- Ulfric's views on other races are questionable.
- Might divide Tamriel for the Thalmor.
- Violent.
- Many of it's Jarls are paranoied.

The Empire:

+ Keep much of Tamriel under one banner.
+ Less racist in policies.
+ Intelligent generals like Tullius.
- Is easy for the Thalmor to control.
- It's priests offically tell it's populace Talos isn't a god (talk to the Nine Divines priestess in Solitude).
- Picks and chooses when to follow Nord law.
- Slowly abandoned it provinces to the Dominion.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:40 pm

Keep much of Tamriel under one banner

Against its will.

Ulfric's views on other races are questionable.

What are his views on other races? It's often stated that he's racist, but there's really no evidence for it in-game. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Intelligent generals like Tullius

Tullius is hardly intelligent. He has no idea of the country he's been posted to. More a politician than a general.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:45 am

BEHOLD! myyy MOTTO!

"There is no good or evil, there is only difference"

I picked stormcloaks.
1. im a nord
2. i like snow (no house in winter or dawn)
3. hjerim is my favorite house
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:00 pm

Against its will.



What are his views on other races? It's often stated that he's racist, but there's really no evidence for it in-game. Quite the opposite, in fact.



Tullius is hardly intelligent. He has no idea of the country he's been posted to. More a politician than a general.
Actually it is said in-game that the favor of the war turned to the Empire after he arrived so(and he's the only one to be even close to capturing Ulfric) he must be a skilled general. His problem is that he simply does not understand the Nords and their ways.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:03 pm

Imperial's a unified front against the dominion is better then skyrim goign it alone. Plus Ulfric usurped the throne basicly. not a very good example, and just fosters assassination for power.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:16 am

Imperial's a unified front against the dominion is better then skyrim goign it alone.

Imperial hasnt been unified in some time. They started with 8 provinces and they are down to 2, including Skyrim.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:27 am

Imperial hasnt been unified in some time. They started with 8 provinces and they are down to 2, including Skyrim.

So doesn't that prove my point? XD
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:43 pm

Skyrim IS THE BEST GAME I HAVE EVER PLAYED!!!

However... i do not like the storyline... i understand that it is trying to be more... "bold" / "advlt" and keeps its audience confused lol?





hmm... i see. hate to be "the hater" but maybe you should play modern warfare instead.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:11 pm




So doesn't that prove my point? XD

I dont see how your point that "Imperial is a united front" is proven or even logical. They arent unified, no one likes them, just about everyone has already left the empire or wants to.
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