Why Is Dawnguard DLC Coming To 360 First? : V - Skyrim

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:29 am

30 days difference is no big deal. PS3 owners will still buy the PS3 version.

besides, that gap could add a bit of extra time to polish the PS3 DLC instead of rushing it the same month as 360.

If there are any first week 360 problems, those issues could probably be addressed before the PS3 DLC is finalized.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:21 pm

Ha Coby , i buy all my games retail.........im a pc

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:02 am

Ha Coby , i buy all my games retail.........im a pc

Lol, I'm not a big PC gamer anymore... but all my PC games are through retail too. :biggrin:

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:37 am

Oh shut up its a very small price that literally anyone could afford

No one who pays their own bills would ever make a statement like that. When you move out of mom and dad's house you'll understand what I mean.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:49 pm

Im pretty sure millions.

If they paid that much then fine, there's no way this deal will cover the expense of buying the rights.

I guess there just trying to mantain the overall feeling that Xbox is better because it gets it first.

Oh well i need more time to prepare my charater for Dawnguard anyways.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:03 am

If they paid that much then fine, there's no way this deal will cover the expense of buying the rights.

I guess there just trying to mantain the overall feeling that Xbox is better because it gets it first.

Oh well i need more time to prepare my charater for Dawnguard anyways.

Remember Skyrim is better with Kinect

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:14 pm

Remember Skyrim is better with Kinect???

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:44 pm

No one who pays their own bills would ever make a statement like that. When you move out of mom and dad's house you'll understand what I mean.

Exactly. I unfortunately won't be able to afford Dawnguard when it's released.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:10 am

That's because not evreyones PC can handle Mods.

You've just shown how much do you know about modding...which is very, very little.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:05 pm

http://www.statisticbrain.com/skyrim-the-elder-scrolls-v-statistics/

Skryim Sales By Platform
XBox 360 ............... 59 %
Playstation 3 ........... 27 %
PC ........................14 %

It takes 48 seconds for a cell to load on the xbox? That can't be right, it takes like <5 seconds on my pc!?!

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:36 am

It takes 48 seconds for a cell to load on the xbox? That can't be right, it takes like <5 seconds on my pc!?!

That isn't right, especially if it's installed on the HDD, and with the newer system. it plays rather well. I've heard more graphics complaints from friends that are Ps3 users, than xbox and pc.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:43 am

That's because not evreyones PC can handle Mods.

So are those people are using computers from the 80's or something? Every computer now can handle mods(Hell my dad was modding DOOM back in the 90's.). They might not be able to run todays games with out getting an upgrade, but they can handle mods. The last computer I had which was stock was able to run Morrowind mods. Yes the game and the mods are old, but I think you get the point.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:08 pm

That isn't right, especially if it's installed on the HDD, and with the newer system. it plays rather well. I've heard more graphics complaints from friends that are Ps3 users, than xbox and pc.

Right on. I don't have any friends with a 360 that plat Skyrim, so I've never seen it in action. 48 seconds (as written on the page that was linked) did sound awfully long.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:31 pm

No one who pays their own bills would ever make a statement like that. When you move out of mom and dad's house you'll understand what I mean.

+1

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:20 am

i know that its with all the COD games how dlcs come out a month before the other platforms,but now skyrim dlcs too?Did microsoft buy that too?More people play ps3 and pc combined than 360 alone,i just find it ridiculous that 360 gets even skyrim dlcs first too.

Microsoft made a deal with Beth to get it early. Yay for Xbox but i feel bad for my pc and ps3 friends.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:10 am

I guess I'll keep away from this forums for at least a month after Dawnguard's release on X360.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:58 am

Everything I have ever read says that PC gamers represent roughly 15% of the market, give or take a few points. That is why companies cater to consoles. PC gamers swear this can't be true, but have not ever been able to debunk it.

And if you think gaming companies like Bethesda doesn't have access to Steam's numbers, you are fooling yourselves. If PC gaming was the dominant chunk of gaming as a whole, then you would see companies cater to them.

I agree with this, As much as like gaming PC's they are very expensive. To think that more people has the expensive gaming PC's then the much cheaper consoles is not realistic. Either way if you can afford it why choose I plan on having both a gaming PC and xbox.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:12 am

As far as I'm concerned, they got paid for the game once ... end of story.

Most games I bought are used and in most cases, I wouldn't have purchased the game if I had to pay full price.

However, in some cases a used game I've bought has encouraged me to buy ... at full price ... a publisher's newer game.

So to my mind, used games sales don't hurt a publisher ... on the contrary, these sales may help them by attracting players who decide to buy a newer title at full price based on their experience with the used game.

It's just greed ... and I think eventually this will be the downfall of some of these companies ... and the sooner, the better.

I agree fully, the pillocks who are pushing this approach aren't taking into account the number of people who purchase a brand new game with credit gained from a trade-in. Sure, not everyone does it, probably not even half, but its still a substantial chunk of the figure. Added to that, as you said, its like free publicity. Someone buys a copy of Oblivion used, cause its dirt cheap, goes WOW THATS AWSUM and buys a brand new Skyrim at full whack the next day. Thats a sale they would never have had were it not for the used games market.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:34 pm

I agree with this, As much as like gaming PC's they are very expensive. To think that more people has the expensive gaming PC's then the much cheaper consoles is not realistic. Either way if you can afford it why choose I plan on having both a gaming PC and xbox.

I suppose one thing to consider there though, is that you're on a computer right now, and how much did that cost? The people that don't buy the a computer capable of running Skyrim to a standard they consider acceptable, but still want to play games (Skyrim in this case), will then go out and buy a console, so they have then bought two different products; both of those add up to a dent in the wallet. I bought a computer for ￡1200 that runs Skyrim on ultra, and functions as my computer. It could be said that I've actually economised, if only marginally. That isn't true in all cases obviously, but it's still worth considering.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:28 pm

I suppose one thing to consider there though, is that you're on a computer right now, and how much did that cost? The people that don't buy the a computer capable of running Skyrim to a standard they consider acceptable, but still want to play games (Skyrim in this case), will then go out and buy a console, so they have then bought two different products; both of those add up to a dent in the wallet. I bought a computer for ￡1200 that runs Skyrim on ultra, and functions as my computer. It could be said that I've actually economised, if only marginally. That isn't true in all cases obviously, but it's still worth considering.

My Xbox cost less that ￡200, the PC I am currently on cost roughly ￡350. I am able to game away (on skyrim at least) whilst my wife facebooks and websurfs to her hearts content.

Not posted to debunk your point, merely showing the other side of the coin. If it was only me I had to worry about, I'd probably have gone the PC route as that does indeed make more sense.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:24 am

It's kind of an underhanded business tactic to pull crap like this. Personally, I think federal legislation is in order: if a game is offered on multiple platforms, then all platforms must receive all releases related to that game at the same time. Exclusivity deals and any similar deals that accomplish the same effect result in fines of up to $60 million for both parties. This includes all releases that are "late" for legitimate reasons. In other words, even if a release for one platform is late, they still must provide DLC at the same time as other consoles or face hefty fines.

Let your system compete based on the merits of your system, not because of cronyism and sweet deals.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:39 am

I agree fully, the pillocks who are pushing this approach aren't taking into account the number of people who purchase a brand new game with credit gained from a trade-in. Sure, not everyone does it, probably not even half, but its still a substantial chunk of the figure. Added to that, as you said, its like free publicity. Someone buys a copy of Oblivion used, cause its dirt cheap, goes WOW THATS AWSUM and buys a brand new Skyrim at full whack the next day. Thats a sale they would never have had were it not for the used games market.

Re: the Oblivion comment ... that's exactly what happened to me.

I found myself with time on my hands last fall, so bought an XBox and a couple of used games ... one of which was Oblivion.

I'd been playing and enjoying it for a few weeks when I noticed TV commercials for "Skyrim".

Then I noticed "Skyrim" on the Oblivion map and it clicked in that it was made by the same developer.

So, as I'd enjoyed Oblivion, I went out and bought Skyrim.

It also occured to me today that if the console makers come up with a "can't play used games" scheme, that will likely be the end of video game rentals as well.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:15 am

Right on. I don't have any friends with a 360 that plat Skyrim, so I've never seen it in action. 48 seconds (as written on the page that was linked) did sound awfully long.

I think the average on mine might be around 20 seconds.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:37 pm

Re: the Oblivion comment ... that's exactly what happened to me.

I found myself with time on my hands last fall, so bought an XBox and a couple of used games ... one of which was Oblivion.

I'd been playing and enjoying it for a few weeks when I noticed TV commercials for "Skyrim".

Then I noticed "Skyrim" on the Oblivion map and it clicked in that it was made by the same developer.

So, as I'd enjoyed Oblivion, I went out and bought Skyrim.

It also occured to me today that if the console makers come up with a "can't play used games" scheme, that will likely be the end of video game rentals as well.

Nah, rentals will pass over to MS and Sony - the publishers could easily muscle in on the current market...

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:16 am

Love all the 360 people saying "LOL itz just 30 days you can wait."
But if suddenly sony or steam decided fork over tons of cash for the next dlc to be exclusive i bet the crys would get alot louder.

If the shoe was on the other foot, it would hardly bother me at all.

I had to wait over a year to play Tribunal. Over 6 months to play Bloodmoon. 6 months to play vanilla Morrowind. Similar waits for GTA III and GTA: San Andreas - just to name a few non-Bethesda titles.

If I can survive waits like that just fine, I think people will manage with a measly 30 days. :disguise: