Well I thought we were strictly discussing numbers, not necessarily the amount that would go back to Bethesda. However, as the economy is at the moment, it's understandable as to why people would relegate themselves to purchasing a used game. Especially in the scenario where they had purchased it before, but traded it in haphazardly, though regretted it and purchased it again. Though to mitigate the amount of loss to themselves, they purchased used. Especially games with online passes. Why purchase a game at full price for a second round, when you already have that pass and could get it for almost half the price?

Understandably you're a PC player, so that situation may not pertain to you.

As for the first link in your signature, I believe Intel did a bit of information rigging. As they broke down a few genres for PC while they gave singular notations for the consoles. As PC isn't the only platform to have exclusivity to those genres. In technicality on any console a game is 'free-to-play', as the requirements are noted as being, "A game that doesn't require a monthly fee to access servers, or content." You purchase a game on a console, and you're free to play it. MMOG's, that could sway either way, as there are some massive multiplayer online-games for consoles, though not as many as PC. As for, "PC traditional game SW", it notes lower in the page that these are games that are in essence, "Pre-ordered". Though as any platform can have games that are pre-ordered, only thing exclusive to the PC in that regard is the pre-loaded game titles, that are installed prior to the release date, but unlocked at midnight on release.

We are discussing numbers, but that doesn't make all numbers relevant. Because the money from used sales does not go back to Bethesda, they'll have little to no bearing on how Bethesda decides to move forward. It's also why the industry is intent on killed the used game market. They've succeeded on the PC and they're already taking steps to do so on the consoles. I wouldn't be surprised if the used game market was dead with the next console generation.

Fun fact, more people play PC then any other console combined.

seriously if you made a game and micro$oft offerd you a [censored] load of money for exclusive rights youd take it. hate this whinein threads. its for 30days not the end of the world...

M$ payed for the rights to get the dlc for 30 so don't blame beth or M$ blame sony for not caring enough to make the deal first.

Sure if you want to include Facebook social games and Asian MMO's. If were talking just hardcoe games, no... no they do not.

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People really don't understand how much 3rd party games sell on Xbox over PC and PS3. I would even doubt combined they sold more than Xbox. Steam is popular, and no we don't have sale figures. But looking at play statics we can get a rough idea. People seem to believe steam sells a lot more digitally than what it does, and it really doesn't. I mean it sells a lot, but not like MS or Sony.

-this-, MS sprung the cash, and money makes the world g round, if sony wasnt so cheap, maybe theyd get it too, and PC has no company that reallly cant get exclusivity so yeah, 360 FTW.

MS has a hand in the pc......it called games live for windows and it is part of ms network....

Wha...? You have to be taking something good, because you do know how PS3 and Bethesda games works right? Or should I say doesn't work

I doubt that they would allow such a thing to happen. Especially since Gamestop, the largest used game retailer, also does some of the greatest sales for the game companies. The amount of exclusive offerings they have, usually brings them business over mom 'n pop stores, and even the dreaded Walmart.

If it does happen that the used game industry goes down the crapper, then that's okay. As I'll still have my health, and still be able to everything I do normally. I'll just be restricted to paying full price for a game I had purchased a second time.

As for the numbers game I have a quote I'm quite fond of. "Either everything is relevant, or nothing at all matters." It's rather true if you think about it.

Love all the 360 people saying "LOL itz just 30 days you can wait."
But if suddenly sony or steam decided fork over tons of cash for the next dlc to be exclusive i bet the crys would get alot louder.

I very much disagree with everything you just said.

The "dreaded Wal-Mart" has it's fingers in many pots. A blow to any single one of them wouldn't be devastating. That allows them to throw their weight around, like they did a few years ago with the music industry. Gamestop has it's hand in one pot. That puts them at the mercy of the industry. Sure, the gaming industry would take a hit, but Gamestop would go out of business.

And no, I don't think your saying is true at all. I have a saying of my own that I like. "What's that got to do with the price of tea in China?"

Yes PC gets to mod ....but not every pc user uses them

Yes PC gets to mod ....but not every pc user uses them

That's been the case with most Bethesda developed or published games. Microsoft always grabs that exclusivity deal first chance they get.

Look on the bright side though, PC and PS3'ers.

PS3 has HANDS DOWN better exclusives. Not even a contest.

And you bastard PC players get mods.

There's always a silver lining.

The 30 days thing annoys me, but I can deal with it.

How much did Xbox pay for that deal?

Another fun fact. Diablo 3, a PC exclusive, sold 3.4 million copies on it's first day. Skyrim sold 3.7 million copies across all platforms on it's first day (the 10 million was it's first week). Although, the 3.7 million does not include digital sales on the PC while the 3.4 million does.