Im not have a disappointment about graphics I truelly like I`m just sad that there is ppl who likes ghraphics more then idea or exclusivity of the game and choises which we can make. And choosing top graphics without own will in the game.

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Yeah. There's a thin line between the hyperbolic ranting of a "hater" and a "fanboyy".

Well,im not really buthurt about FO4.

I mean we already seen the E3 videos and knew what the graphics looks like.

Is the FO4 look better then FO3 and NV? Totally becuase of weather climate color.

Does it look better then Skyrim? Yes some what because of the PBR but it's almost same graphically.

There some areas that has better texture then others.

Unfortunatly I'm one of those that are pickle about details from smalll object like stimpacks,hand dryers etc.

Sure gameplay is more priority then graphics but for me so far it looks better since FO 3 and NV with its shadow enviroments.

One other thing,shadows is most number one important thing for me besides texture,shadows adds depth to enviroments and makes them believable that I'm actually there.

Create's spooky enviroments and wow factors for me,this imerses me in the game like in Dying Light and Metro2033 and so on.

But as stated I'm content how FO4 is looking and beside we have great MOD community.

But I just hate that we have to depend othem to make the game great for me.

Yeah I know that they can't make the game as best due to thier game engine limitation.

Lighting looks pretty good. The rest is average or poor imo. ambient effects, textures and such are not much of a step up from last gen. Models as usual are bad. People comparing this to TW3...forget that. Compare it to GTA5 or Sleeping Dogs, both last gen games and FO4 doesn't even come close. I'm sorry but how can that not be a bit of a disappointment in 2015? I don't play for graphics alone but Bethesda is already behind the curve on this and we're just starting 'next' gen.

It's been explained many times already why GTA 5 looks better(and another is a few post above yours). At this point we just beating a dead horse.

Well I'm just glad that seems the energy weapons gives off light source a bit when your close to an NPC or object when your gun is out.

So that musket gives off red color hue light, I wonder how the plasma sniper rifle will look.

After seeing the E3 reveal trailer it was evident that Fallout 4 wouldn't be one of the best looking games this generation. The only thing that bothered me somewhat was the laughably stilted animation of the NPCs running to the vault.

The first thing that struck me was the lighting. It looks great. The other thing that struck me was how some of what I see in the screen shots look like FO3 using NMC's texture pack. I'm just a little concerned what my game will look like since I probably can't run it on ultra--high possibly--but not Ultra.

Ultra looks great, especially environments. Though I still find faces to be poor compared to W3 or even DAI.

This reminds me of the LOUIS C.K standup about cell phones lol. Some people are just so petty . Completely uncalled for

I see most of the complains about graphics as a secondary effect of drawing shooter games players in the player base because they have their own priorities and graphics are one of them.

That still doesn't explain why TW3 looks leagues better compared to FO4. The whole "it's a big world with thousands of objects" also holds for the world of the Witcher 3. Walking from the southern part of Velen all the way to the top of the large city of Novigrad takes longer than crossing the capital wasteland from south to west and back. And yet TW3 provides ample depth, NPC, quests, no loading screens and much more.

There is simply no denying Bethesda has fallen behind, the competition is ramping up the graphics and FO4 looks sub 2012.

Sure, you the graphics can be acceptable for you, but your fooling yourself if you consider these graphics to be "beautiful" in 2015...

So what is it that you're looking for ? An apology from Beth? Lol there is a smaller group of graphic haters then there are true FALLOUT fans who don't mind the "minor" graphic upgrade . Again , don't know if you all are expecting an apology but it ain't gonna happen. At the very least maybe an update to fix minor glitches but yea

Yet your not counting W3 map is broken into parts, we move around everything like we can in Fallout( you can't in W3) and they run on different engines.

Just because both are open world doesn't mean they work the same way.

"True fall out fans"

_{Hmm what does that mean's? Pondering to myself}

The only thing that bugs me is the facial animations I've seen. They remind me of those Conan O'Brien skits with Arnold Schwarzenegger's face on a big TV screen, but only the mouth moves. For me, it's potentially distracting considering the amount of dialogue in this game. Still, I'll reserve judgement until I'm playing it myself. Maybe the people who have leaked the footage cherry picked the least flattering scenes to drum up discontent.

The "broken up parts" are larger than any Bethesda game by itself so this argument doesn't really hold.

I'm not claiming this will be a bad game or a game that looks ugly. In fact I'm very much looking forward to next week. But I can't deny it doesn't look as good as it ought to, we're living in 2015 and sadly Beth has fallen behind by a large margin. If you think this game looks beautiful you're either fooling yourself or haven't played any recent games.

And if it had graphics people will say the gameplay isn't as good as could have been or they left other stuff out for graphics. You can't win with gamers. We just look for excuses to complain.

People expect Bethesda interactive environments with Witcher graphics...they don't make home computers that could run that...your bad ass rig would drop too about 3fps if you dropped a grenade in a supermart with that kind of rendering....meanwhile in the Witcher you have very few "live" objects nearly everything is static..much easier to process those textures when they don't move.

And you showing how little you know about games. I don't care if you looking forward to the game or not. You fail to see these games are made by different groups, using different engines and want to do different things with their game. Bethseda has never cared about graphics. Their games would barely run if they GTA or W3 graphics.

Fallout 50,I will still be complaining about graphics in my tomb till they get rid of the engine which holding them down.

Christ almighty, i bought fallout 3 and new vegas for 3 platforms and played it A LOT so I consider myself a true fan, never played the first two but i know what they're about.
But you realize that if something is wrong then the devs need input ? Criticism is needed, if we don't complain now, in another 8 years they'll still be using the gamebryo engine, stop defending Beth like they're your gods.
They've done bad things too, i want to remind everyone how their games worked on ps3.
And that the unnofficial patches fix more than their patches.
They need to go on with the times, write a new engine and for the love of god hire a good team on people working on animations first and foremost.

I'm sorry but it's people like you that's wrong with gaming, we pay them money, very good money. Look at how many single player games use microtransactions these days, why ? Because people don't show that they don't like them enough, hell some people are actually defending microtransactions (halo 5).

That's the point of this thread. But they should care because if you fall too far behind competition will take over.

Very true, this thread suffers from wishful thinking it will be better this time.

Yeah like how everyone thinks The Order is GOTY right?