Magicka regenerates though. But yes horses are too weak and too suicidal. It would have been better for them to stick Shadowmere as unkillable rather than quick health regen and if you're lucky a respawn at the pool.

yep.

Bethesda has openly admitted that they drew inspirations from Red Dead Redemption. also, it could be in addition to this that they were trying to find a way to "hide" the slowdown and hiccups that are present on consoles when riding a horse. as lag is much more noticeable in first-person than in third-person.

you can carry a butt load of potions too if you choose. or just don't do it. But if you're going to do mounted combat then blockng healing is pretty stupid at any rate. Since normal combat doesn't block healing yourself..

There is not a single doubt in my mind that this game should have had a later release date. It's release was nothing short of a punch in the gut, and a kick in the nuts. Bethesda is great at making an open world, but game mechanics? Well, to put it simply, they svck at designing game mechanics.

I wouldn't go that far, because if it's game mechanics were as poorly designed as you're suggesting, Skyrim wouldn't still be on the most-played games on PSN, XBL and even Steam well into 7 months of it's lifespan.

no, I think Bethesda is just a bit too ambitious for their own sake (which they've openly admitted to), and sometimes bite off more than they can chew.

Little Sparrow,

You claim Bethesda is lazy and won't take an "estimated 6 hours" to make mounted combat perfect, yet you won't take a couple seconds to check any of your posts for grammar and spelling errors.

If Bethesda focused entirely on patches, everyone would complain harder about having no DLC. They are about to release a very large expansion to the game and you're complaining about free content.


Where did you study video game design?

Besides this forum post, have you ever created anything?


Everyone else, I do enjoy reading the constructive criticism about the new mechanics.

Although, it does highlight the poor draw distance a lot more.

Free content that probably should have been in the game. Especially if they hadn't forced themselves to stick to the 11.11.11 release date.

On horse back you can move more quickly away and now you can attack on them. Plus how would invisbility work on horseback? Or many of the higher level destruction spells?

Depends on what the bugs are. The bugs that were at release with Skyrim, were not that bad

Maybe. Maybe they wanted to see what was needed and what wasn't from the vanilla game. Maybe the slow release of extra features coupled with bug fixes was part of the marketing strategy all along.

I think if a company set a deadline for a product to be finished well in advance, and they weren't organised well enough to produce that in time, you would see some heads rolling. All this amateur guesswork - they forced themselves to do X, they were lazy about Y, they didn't care about Z - is pretty pointless.

honestly, people will complain no matter what. why? because they're people.

even if this game was [censored] perfect, someone would still find some way to complain about something. it happens with literally every major release these days when relating to videogames. Uncharted 2 got the ridiculous "wait, this is an amazing game...but you can't forget that there's a plothole with that one guy who got thrown off the ledge at the beginning of the game!", it happened with Red Dead Redemption "yeah, great game. too bad horse riding is completely boring and repetitive!" and now it's happening with Skyrim.

I've never used horses in Skyrim, not even Shadowmere, even though I've stopped using Fast travel. They're stupid, clunky and useless and there's no first person. Mounted combat has not changed this, it merely makes it so killing certain creatures is slightly easier. Mages get really shafted for no apparent reason with this. (I am glad they added it for people who use it, but it's just not going to be used by me ever.)

I agree with they bit off more than they could chew, but some mechanics, such as magic, are just plain and simple poorly done. I love the type of game Skyrim is, but some of it's mechanics drive me crazy by how poorly designed they were.

Bows do, No first person? Also, Im not a mage.....But they could of least have gotten the range magic.

On an unlreated note, when does mounted combat come to pc? Not the beta version

honestly, that's completely subjective. as I personally find the magic system in Skyrim to be among the best I've ever experienced in gaming thus far (definitely better than the system in place with Oblivion and Morrowind).

It does't feel rushed at all to me. It feels like something a guy who plays mostly melee characters made in a week which is pretty much what it is. Hey it's free why complain? I wish archery had a 1st person view and that I could use my magic from horseback but how can I really complain when they just gave this to me for nothing. To me that is just being ungrateful. I mean what do you really want for free? It is such a rare thing to get anything free these days with everyone charging for every little bit they offer up for a game. If you want something added to it then make a suggestion but complaining, saying it feels rushed, or that Bethesda is lazy as some people say just shows a serious lack of gratitude for something we simply don't see in the gaming world any more. I for one have appreciated all the content they have released thus far.

Thanks bethesda for adding a new game feature thats never been done in an elder scrolls game before for free your definitly better then other developers who sell map packs and armor/weapon bundles for an arm and a leg!

Stop writing on the forum and go play Skyrim It's already out.

It's live right now. Fire up your Steam and get some.


Damn ninjas!

Horse riding should have first person view. It did not have it before 1.6 and it still does not have it after the fact. I would love a first person view for horses.

In saying that I think this is the beat patch so far on how many bugs it has fixed for me.

Now they need to do the weapon and shield clean ups and bound arrows.

Then they need to fix the briar hearts so they clean up and respawn properly.

And that's why I think that a pact between the Unofficial Skyrim Patch authors and Bethesda to merge and include the fixes in exchange for free DLC's or other stuff would be a win-win for everyone, console users included.

Right, Bethesda would still have to see if the bugs are really fixed, but they'd have already half of the work removed almost for free.

I've just tried the mounted combat out on the new patch and i think its great, it would annoy me when i had to dismount to kill wolves and bears etc, its a winner for me!!, nothing bad about it.

Great idea! but isn't it illegal to have someone work for a company for free?