This is a hornet's nest you don't wana poke, kid. Don't make a topic and post about how you think it's unfair Skyrim is judged AND throw in an offhand MW bash to boot. Bad, bad, and more bad. Had you played MW in its prime, your opinion would have at least mattered a little bit. Now, me and probably a lot of other people reading your forum are gona throw you on the bandwagon with all the other "newbs" that we like to blame for the degradation of the series. Spoiled gamers with big mouths are what got us where we are right now. Don't compound the problem.

Lol.

I suppose this proves what a great franchise it is.

Overrated thread. There is no hate. We all love Skyrim that's why we're here.

What hatred? Obviously, you never saw the Oblivion forums when that game released.

HURR HURR gamez need gud graphix

Morrowind saved Bethesda from going under. It was the first elder scrolls game to reach a huge market and generated the majority of TES fans. Morrowind is the standard that all other elderscrolls games are measured against. It had a compelling story frustrating game play and an other worldly charm that none of the others has.

I'm thinking a lot of rose colored glasses are donned when people remember that game but at the time those ugly graphics and lack of character voices and all that text was state of the art and nothing else came close to what morrowind did.

Frankly, to me, it had the best main quest of all of the games Bethesda has released. The guilds were at each other's throats, dunmer hated you unless you were a dunmer. If you were part of one faction you were the enemy of others. The game challenged you like no other game has either before or after in my opinion, certainly where TES games are concerned. And of course it was the first game I ever added mods to which totally changed the way the game looked and played.

And of course there were the cliff racers!

Judging a game as deep as Morrowind by decade old graphics and animations is like describing the color blue to a blind man.

The OP does indirectly make a valid point. There are quite a few Morrowinder's who don't like Skyrim, or Oblivion, but their dislike isn't graphic related. Personally, I think they are just stuck in nestalgia. Oblivion was my first TES experience, and I loved it. been hooked ever since.

However, I just don't like PC games running through thrid party clients needing internet access to run the games. Some people may call that nestalgia, but I know better. Like books in TES, I even want TES DLC hardcopies. I have them for Morrowind, Oblivion, and fallout3, but not Skyrim. If I want them for Skyrim, I'll have to buy the game again which doesn't make me happy, not to mention that even with some GOTY edition, I'll still have to go through a steam filter which is BS. But that's another thread.

Well said, sir.

Really it's just the same few people that make a lot of negative threads and post a lot of complaints in what ever thread they can. It's not even all that many different people making the complaints luckily.

Nop, people born in the 80s/90s know a good game when they see one

People don't hate Skyrim, they're disapointed with Skyrim. Morrowind offered a fantastic layer of customisation and player freedom and each subsequent TES game has offered less and less. For example, you didn't have any of this loading screen nonsense to enter a city, you simply walked in which offered far more in the way of immersion. Please also bear in mind that whilst the graphics have aged over ten years, at the time (at least on the PC), the graphics where far superior to what you see in Skyrim, relative to their peers at the time. Morrowind also had Spears.

OMG how was it done? I need to know.

Of course with this setup I would get about 3 FPS, but who cares.


I'm 19, I played Morrowind for the first time in 2006. I can't possibly be motivated by nostalgia, but Morrowind is still my no. 1 game

Your comment is proving my point.

If you want nostalgia, go look for Arena/Daggerfall players (great games btw) Morrowind players don't just play it for the nostalgia.

I have an old mini cooper, not for nostalgia, just because it is a reliable car

Actually, I think he took as your way of saying Skyrim isn't good, and only people born in the 80's and 90's will notice this. Although, I could be wrong, cause that does seem like a leap.

I never said skyrim isn't good, i love skyrim. Morrowind will always sit on top of the pile though

Morrowind can't be judged by watching anything about it. It has to be experienced firsthand.

The visuals are an issue that can't be circumvented without heavy modding, and even then, it's only a partial fix. If Visuals are all you care about, look elsewhere.

Honestly, aside form all the little bugs and the whole no DLC thing and no communication from Bethesda thing. Pass all that up, and Skyrim still fails in comparison to the older games in the series. TES has been so dumbed down now, its more action than anything. I miss back when there were multiple skills and you had to actually put some thought into your character to make it work. Now as long as you can mash R1 or RT or Left Click you'll pretty much be ok with some blocking added. Playing on master is a joke at end game. I remember when in morrowind you had to lower the difficulty in the start of the game and think about how you wanted to go with your character. Now its like, wooo kill. Back in morrowind and even still in oblivion I felt like my characters were my own. Now no matter what path I try to go with my character in Skyrim the game feels stale and the same with the lack of skills or even clothing and armor for that matter.

Sure the game may be hard if I handicap myself, play on a mage character on master difficulty I will die quite fast. But thats only because the stupid immersion breaking kill cameras drag your character as if by magic into an axe instead of being able to jump out of the way.

Graphics wise, everything looks bleak and dirty. Yes I understand thats the ambiance for skyrim but really? The game feels like they put a blah instagram filter over EVERYTHING. Oblivion was colorful and jeez even the fiery pits of Molag Mar were more colorful than skyrim. The game is so bland graphics wise. That can be fixed on the PC i'm sure, but I shouldn't have to fix it in the first place. If it's graphics your after why not play Morrowind with the new graphics engine? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N-3zCPVZW0&feature=related


Skyrim feels like a hack n slash to me, but that may only be because I've been playing TES since Morrowind was the latest and greatest and that's what has drawn me into the series. If they continue down this path, I think I can care less about the next installments. I fear that TES VI may break skills into Melle, Magic, Stealth and that be all (of course this is an exaggeration). I don't know, just it doesn't feel like TES anymore.

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I don't hate Skyrim. It's a decent game, but it certainly deserves a lot of the criticism aimed at it.

The Skyrim defence team always tries to brush off complaints about the game, but I see far more logical, well thought-out arguments coming from the critics than I do from the defenders.

HAH

I dont know about that. Most of the people I know who point out the faults of Skyrim are completely unwilling to point out the lot of criticism the older Scrolls deserve as well. The thing is, criticism is easy, there are always going to be flaws, it jsut gets annoying when people try and hold up the older games, like they didnt have some very obvious issues as well.

Also to add, since I liked Oblivion more than Skyrim, I would rather play this mod as well but I don't own a computer capable of running as I had to invest in school rather than video games ;D
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Again, my characters felt like my own and not mass produced to all be the same

you have done well fellow forumgoer

I surely hope the dragon control is smooth or completely optional. The dragon controls almost made me quit Divinity DK Saga, otherwise a great rpg.