Why so much hate for Skyrim?

Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:25 pm

OMG how was it done? I need to know.

Of course with this setup I would get about 3 FPS, but who cares.

Most likely a combination of "MGE" and "Sound and Graphics Overhaul."
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:39 am

You mentioned that witch shall not be spoken of :bolt:

I've removed my youtube link xD I didn't know it wasn't to be spoken of xD
Why on earth would you quote it if it isn't supposed to be spoken of xD
I heard about it a while back :P
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:02 pm

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/8579
I love you.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:36 am

Graphics wise, everything looks bleak and dirty. Yes I understand thats the ambiance for skyrim but really? The game feels like they put a blah instagram filter over EVERYTHING. Oblivion was colorful and jeez even the fiery pits of Molag Mar were more colorful than skyrim. The game is so bland graphics wise. That can be fixed on the PC i'm sure, but I shouldn't have to fix it in the first place.
Sorry, but LOL. ;)
One of the most persistent criticisms of Morrowind has been that it's all a washed out, brownish, drab wasteland in serious need of some colour. That can be fixed on the PC etc. etc., and it's the ambience for Morrowind (what with its ash storms and stuff), but the point's the same. Vanilla Skyrim has a strange yellow filter painted over everything, but compared to Morrowind, it's not really any bleaker.

Also, even today's graphics overhauls only slightly improve on animations and some of the gameplay aspects of Morrowind. While it certainly looks astonishingly pretty for a 10-year-old game, it also plays like one.
Certainly, gameplay is usually not the thing why people love Morrowind. But it's something you have to put up with while playing.

And I absolutely adore Morrowind. That doesn't mean it didn't have its flaws.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:29 am

Also to add, since I liked Oblivion more than Skyrim, I would rather play this mod as well but I don't own a computer capable of running as I had to invest in school rather than video games ;D -snip link- Apparently this should not be named :o Again, my characters felt like my own and not mass produced to all be the same

:drool:
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:38 am

Sorry, but LOL. :wink:
One of the most persistent criticisms of Morrowind has been that it's all a washed out, brownish, drab wasteland in serious need of some colour. That can be fixed on the PC etc. etc., and it's the ambience for Morrowind (what with its ash storms and stuff), but the point's the same. Vanilla Skyrim has a strange yellow filter painted over everything, but compared to Morrowind, it's not really any bleaker.

Also, even today's graphics overhauls only slightly improve on animations and some of the gameplay aspects of Morrowind. While it certainly looks astonishingly pretty for a 10-year-old game, it also plays like one.
Certainly, gameplay is usually not the thing why people love Morrowind. But it's something you have to put up with while playing.

And I absolutely adore Morrowind. That doesn't mean it didn't have its flaws.

Ya, I loved Morrwind for its lore, story, and the "world", but the gameplay to me was horrible, probably the biggest love/hate relation to a game during that time, specially as far as RPG's go around that time.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:55 pm

Also to add, since I liked Oblivion more than Skyrim, I would rather play this mod as well but I don't own a computer capable of running as I had to invest in school rather than video games ;D -snip link- Apparently this should not be named :o Again, my characters felt like my own and not mass produced to all be the same

:drool:

EDIT: Why is the link gone?
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:59 pm

I don't hate Skyrim. It's a decent game, but it certainly deserves a lot of the criticism aimed at it.

The Skyrim defence team always tries to brush off complaints about the game, but I see far more logical, well thought-out arguments coming from the critics than I do from the defenders.

Agreed. Most people who are labeled as "haters" don't come on these forums to hate and troll, but rather identify legitimate faults the game has through well thought out arguments. I find too many people who try to defend Skyrim and Bethesda's decisions to death without much elaboration on their part. Of course compliments about the game is always great, but the fact that people ignore any type of criticism is mind boggling. It seems like Bethesda can make no mistake and if TES 6 is an FPS people would still praise it just because of its TES label.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:29 pm

Nop, people born in the 80s/90s know a good game when they see one
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:03 am

Pay no attention to what other people say.

Daggerfall fanatics were utterly livid with hatred for Morrowind. Morrowind ruined the Elder Scrolls. It was nothing but a shallow action game with shiny graphics designed to appeal to casual console and first-person shooter gamers. It was an abomination to even think of calling Morrowind a roleplaying game.

Morrowind fanatics were livid with hatred for Oblivion. Oblivion ruined the Elder Scrolls. It was nothing but a shallow action game with shiny graphics designed to appeal to casual console and first-person shooter gamers. It was an abomination to even think of calling Oblivion a roleplaying game.

Now Oblivion players are livid with hatred for Skyrim. Skyrim has ruined the Elder Scrolls. It is nothing but a shallow action game with shiny graphics designed to appeal to casual console and first-person shooter gamers. It is an abomination to even think of calling Skyrim a roleplaying game.

After awhile you realize it's all just white noise. It doesn't mean a thing. It's a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing. The way to stay sane on these forums is to ignore the repetitive, redundant negativity and focus on playing the games. If my ten years here have taught me anything it is that the games will still be here long after their critics have moved on to criticize the next new game.

Brilliantly encapsulated the whole issue of which TES game is the best :clap: ! Well said sir!
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:55 pm

I started with Morrowind and the magic and nostalgia for that game is unique. I played oblivion and I like it... but the character design killed it for me, I cant stand it. And Skyrim, is a new legend for me. Is one of the best games so no hate here. Morrowind still′s better for me, bug skyrim is almost side to side. I think this new expansion will bring them very close in my heart.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:41 am

hate? Skyrim won several GOTY awards in 2011, along with an Ultimate Game of the Year award just recently.

it also receives an unparalleled amount of mod support and gains hundreds of videos on Youtube every day that promote and show off the game. a minority complaining on a forum does not equal a general consensus of dissatisfaction.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:01 am

Sorry, but LOL. :wink:
One of the most persistent criticisms of Morrowind has been that it's all a washed out, brownish, drab wasteland in serious need of some colour. That can be fixed on the PC etc. etc., and it's the ambience for Morrowind (what with its ash storms and stuff), but the point's the same. Vanilla Skyrim has a strange yellow filter painted over everything, but compared to Morrowind, it's not really any bleaker.

While this is true :3 I still felt like it fit in more with Morrowind seeing as there were volcanoes and ash and it was like wasteland scenery :P In skyrim the graphics should hopefully look better XP I just feel out of place running through a forest full of life, and having it be so bleak. and if it is one of the most persistent criticisms with one of their older titles why would they decide to make the same mistake again? :P

and Oh I agree it had it's flaws the whole combat system felt odd xP and it was next to impossible to use bows XD But like you stated the gameplay isn't what made Morrowind wonderful :) I think it was the whole progression of your character growing in the world that made it a great game :) And I did not feel there was as much of that in Skyrim :P Sure the game plays better, If they added back in the skill progression and having to plan out how you build your character I'd love Skyrim more than morrowind perhaps even!
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:08 pm

hate? Skyrim won several GOTY awards in 2011, along with an Ultimate Game of the Year award just recently.

it also receives an unparalleled amount of mod support and gains hundreds of videos on Youtube every day that promote and show off the game. a minority complaining on a forum does not equal a general consensus of dissatisfaction.

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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:21 pm

hate? Skyrim won several GOTY awards in 2011, along with an Ultimate Game of the Year award just recently.

it also receives an unparalleled amount of mod support and gains hundreds of videos on Youtube every day that promote and show off the game. a minority complaining on a forum does not equal a general consensus of dissatisfaction.
But it is perplexing if you come from the general audience where Skyrim generates a lot of excitement and approval, to its own forum which often seems to be a big whinefest. That's rather jarring if you haven't been around here and seen it before.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:39 pm

But it is perplexing if you come from the general audience where Skyrim generates a lot of excitement and approval, to its own forum which often seems to be a big whinefest. That's rather jarring if you haven't been around here and seen it before.

just about every game or product released in the modern age has a group of people somewhere that try to express their dislike. it then begins to be perpetrated by said base as if a minority's worth of complaints suddenly equates to everyone being in agreed disappointment.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:05 am

But it is perplexing if you come from the general audience where Skyrim generates a lot of excitement and approval, to its own forum which often seems to be a big whinefest. That's rather jarring if you haven't been around here and seen it before.

Totally normal. On the official forums, all the reaaaalllyyy big fans (aka fan boys :biggrin:) are together.
Like me, that is. Against another game, I would fight to death to defend Skyrim. But here... well, one can point out its flaws.
I love it anyways.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:47 pm

Totally normal. On the official forums, all the reaaaalllyyy big fans (aka fan boys :biggrin:) are together.
Like me, that is. Against another game, I would fight to death to defend Skyrim. But here... well, one can point out its flaws.
I love it anyways.

basically what I was trying to say, lol.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:35 am

All I read on these forums is how MW is soooooo much better but having watched lots of footage on YouTube I just don't understand how a game with such poor graphics and combat animations can be better as things such as this totally ruins the immersion. Maybe it's just me who puts too much emphasis on things like graphics? You may say if graphics are so important play on PC but its not a practical option for me.

The only thing that matters is whether you enjoy the game you're playing. Doesn't matter what other people think.

I've been playing RPGs off and on since the 1980s ... mostly off during the past 15 years.

If I'd played Morrowind when it came out, I likely would have thought the graphics were great and infinitely superior to the graphics in the RPGs I'd played many years previous.

I picked up a used copy last year for my 360 and have played about 5 minutes so far because I find I just can't get past the graphics.

Odd how your perspective changes.

I've seen plenty of comments from folks who've played TES from Arena onwards and who enjoy Skyrim.

And then you have the "but Morrowind was so much better" crowd.

And over on RPG Codex there are likely more than a few who'd say Morrowind was the beginning of the end for "real" RPGs.

Lots of opinions.

As I said, only thing that really matters is whether you enjoy playing a game or not ... the opinions and comparisons of others really don't matter and aren't worth thinking about.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:53 am

A lot of people misconstrue constructive criticism for hate. Skyrim is a great game and I enjoy playing it, but if given the choice, I would prefer that Skyrim had incorporated the greater customization and exploration options provided by Morrowind.

Morrowind had no quest arrows, a detailed quest journal, a hundred times more dialog options (because dialog was primarily text based), numerous ways of completing almost every quest, and you had to pay attention to what NPCs said or your would get horribly lost. There were hundreds more spells and spell effects, spellmaking, attributes, classes, and birthsigns. There were factions that did not like each other, and there were consequences to joining factions. There were also skill requirements for advancing in the guilds, so you could not become archmage without being able to cast some high level spells. Morrowind also had no essential characters.

Skyrim has pretty graphics, better AI, smithing, the ability to use poisons and Dragons. A lot of us wish we could get the best Skyrim has to offer with the depth of Morrowind in the same game. Too many quests in Skyrim have only one way of completing them and, although you can turn of fthe quest arrow, the game world does not give the player enough information to finish a quest without turning on the quest arrow.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:16 pm

Morrowind has pros an cons. But the pros are very remarcable that is the point.
I dont like essential npc′s neither BUT, in Morrowind they were not neccesary because all the characters were SO STATIC, there were no chance of them being killed. The monster or hostile NPC cant enter the buildings (this why every legal shop has a guard on it)
I love morrowind the most, but there are lot of things skyrim did better, and there are lot of things, like the quest progression and the faction influence that was sadly lost.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:52 am

Because it's not Morrowind the best game ever.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:17 am

The OP does indirectly make a valid point. There are quite a few Morrowinder's who don't like Skyrim, or Oblivion, but their dislike isn't graphic related. Personally, I think they are just stuck in nestalgia. Oblivion was my first TES experience, and I loved it. been hooked ever since.

Same here.. I don't hate either game but I do wish that Skyrim had a little more elements from Oblivion in it. Despite this, I've poured many hours into Skyrim and I like the game so much that I intend to put even more hours into it simply to try to immerse myself into it more than I have before. There are some things that Skyrim has done better than Oblivion, and some things that it hasn't done much better but I still enjoy the game for what it is.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:14 pm

I personally don't hate Skyrim, but I see far too many flaws in the dialogue, characters, dungeons, combat, magic system, skill grinding and quest design for it to stack up to most other games I've enjoyed.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:32 pm

Its called nostalgia. everyone has it.
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