Basically, buy game for $60. No sub fee. Three months later "Content Pack A" comes out. New Areas, skills and quests for $35. Three months later "Content Pack B" is released for $35 and so on.

Buying the content packs is purely optional.

What Zenimax could even do is have a season pass where one would get three content packs for $90.

Essentially it will be the same model of buying a game and DLC for it every three months. If you don't want the DLC, you can still play the base game. This is a method that console players would understand and keep them playing and paying for the game.

I’m at a time in my life where I only play a game one or two hours a day and only a few days a week. A game that requires me to pay a monthly fee feels to me like I’m being cheated. I'm not getting my money's worth. Frankly I want to play a game on my schedule. Basically let me take as long as I want to finish up the content I paid for, and when I’m ready I’ll buy the new stuff.

Could you imagine deciding to play Skyrim again after taking a break for a while, wanting to make a new character and being asked to pay $15? That is how I view games with a sub fee. But I’d gladly pay $30 for new Skyrim content every six months.

Not again a thread and i dont like that idear.

There is a thread already out there. http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1471046-subscription-fee-confirmed/ Also you are wasting your time. They made their decision and if you don't want to pay to play then don't play. I like your idea but they will not do it at all.

please DO NOT ever do this .. by zenithar ill hate that

I beg this doesn't happen

yes I have but .. I should have worded it differently ..

what I should have said was

I hope they don't make it F2P and if want other things then it has a P2P section and then add in different payment options .. so if miss a payment then you go F2P for a short time allowing all different types of payment methods like they do in Dungeons Dragons Online .. I hated that they have that (cash shops ruined it also) then they offered 1 - 4 hr playtime for 3 - 5 dollars ... just don't want to see this type of thing in ESO

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This subscription fee thing? Is garbage. I'll be having nothing to do with this game. I'm not paying $60 for the game and one month of online access only to have to pay $15 for every month I want to play after that. Having to continue paying to play a game? B.S. That's Bull Shenanigans for you censors.

ESO?

ES NO.

The answer is in the article that Matt Firor announced the sub model in. For the lazy the answer is: Because ESO is a premium MMO and they didn't want to nickel and dime their customers. They wanted to give us the whole game for one flat fee.

YEA! See others say that there is no one out their that feel like me. I bet you are also miffed at how the games are being dumbed down as well. Watch this it is entertaining. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JweTAhyR4o0

And why not?

What is so bad about only paying for content you want to play, when you are ready to pay for it?

This method empowers the consumer.

Why is paying a flat fee, that does not guarantee quality new content, a better deal?

I feel like you, i was only interested because im a TES fan, i've never been into MMO's and over time that will add up to alot of money, I'ts not for me!

I'm actually waiting for an MMO that offer that kind of payment model. I think it would work great, and also if you don't like the new content you don't have to buy them. For example, if "Content release A" only includes PvE stuff PvP players can just ignore it if they want to and vice versa.

It is P2P or nothing at all. So the compromise with us older customers is going away. Get rid of us and move in the casual gamer crowd who just wants to kill stuff like in some First Person shooter.

Very disappointed. GW2 is a free to play game and offers updates every 2 weeks....why would I pay for an update every 4-6 weeks? Not to mention console players now having to pay for a sub AND the cost of XBL/PSN. What a terrible move.

Get ready for another SWTOR / Rift / Tera people...... Going free to play in the first year I bet...after we've lost a huge chunk of our playerbase that is.

Hey the game has not launched yet. If we moan and cry loud enough they might change their minds... Or not.

Excuse me. GW2 is not a Free to Play game it is a Buy to Play game.

Except, IMO P2P feels more like nickel and diming then B2P does. it is entirely opinion.

Hey i waitet for you, what did you say yesterday?

Content Update in GW2 are the worst, but we had that allready.

How do you know? The game is still 8-9 months away, they could easily change their minds by then.

I wish they would do a hybrid. It might change my mind. But we are wasting our time. Enough going to play Guild Wars. I been playing for months still have stuff to do and only had to pay a one time fee.

That's a really good thought.

Though if a person wanted to do both they would have to pay extra. Which means more money for Zenimax...

Well, you were wrong about it being free to play, so.....

Now you are wrong about it going to fail.

People only leave a game when they get bored with it.

Making a game free to play does not mean more people will play it, if it svcks.

ESO will do very well, I'll bet your MBA on it.

What makes a "premuim" MMO? STWOR was a premium MMO before it launched....so was Rift....so was TERA.... Not hard to see that TESO will be going the same way as these MMOs now sadly

I've never played GW2, but from what I understand, the conent updates are free right?

If they charged for more content, hopefully the quality would be better.

The whole goal is to basically push the dev's to keep making quality content that justifies the purchase price. And to make the player feel like they getting a good deal. Not to make the feel that the player has to keep paying money to pay the game they already purchased.

well ... for one reason is because it devides the people who normaly group together, I hated it that I was among the very few who were P2P .. and I had access to content no others had .. just hated it, couldn't find groups for the paid content and the groups I did find were not nice people to hang with.

another reason was because those of us who spent money ingame for sub was forced to go to the free to play server and caused massive complications .. and a lot of my hard earned items got lost .. it was a huge mess in Fallen Earth MMO and Craft of Gods MMO they saw more money to be made in the F2P servers and forced us P2P members into the free to play servers just ruined the game for many people ....

Nickel and dime means you have to keep paying for lots of things. 5$ for a fancy sword, $10 for a suit of armor, $10 for a new dungeon, $15 for 10 more lvls to grind etc etc. P2P is just ONE fee for the whole game.