If you want a TES RPG game, go play a TES RPG game. If you want a TES MMO game, play this.

So, the only possible way to make a TES MMO game is how Zenimax is doing it ? This is a real lack of both realism and imagination on your part.
Multiple people have already provided exemples of MMO with FPS real-time combat, why would a TES MMO game (of all MMO) be the one without it when it's solo counter part have it ? Turn-based WoW-like / GW2-like combat has never been a prerequisite for a MMORPG.

It's better to scrap 5 years of investment than over a decade of goodwill towards a franchise.

The Steps to making TES:O a success:


Start over. Everything you have?... save for maybe the writing? Delete it off your servers, your computers... nix it. The direction you are going is going to get you a failed project. Slapping on the name The Elder Scrolls on an MMO that looks, runs, and plays no different than any other WoW clone out there, is not going to get you money in your pockets, or content consumers. GUESS WHAT? People who like WoW mechanics?... they play World of Warcraft. Just look at what SWG did (in its good days), and compare it to TOR? Great storytelling doesn't make an MMO. MMO stands for massively multiplayer Online.... Not Massively Multiplayer WoW Clone... People play games like the Elder Scrolls because they like carving their own story into a world where the options are limitless. They like customizing their character, or putting together their house, they like having an impact on a world. They like making a difference. And calling PvP your gateway to making an impact, is a lame excuse for a persistent world game that has been used a dozen other times before. Stop going the easy route... If making games was easy as hell and didn't cost a fortune? We'd ALL fricking do it! Work your asses off building a new engine optimized for a massive world that will keep to the heart and soul of the Elder Scrolls games... Afterall, all we want, is to play the game we already have now, in a larger world, with real players. People who play Elder Scrolls like to play Elder Scrolls for the Elder Scrolls experience. Not World of Warcraft with a skin on it themed off of Tamriel.

It sounds to me you guys have done nothing but made a pathetic attempt of making money out of a popular title. You should be ashamed of yourselves!... you didn't get to where you are today by going the 'safe' route, and trying what others have tried. You guys have pretty much defined the ultimate single player RPG experience. You've made it unique to your IP... nothing else is out there like Fallout and Elder Scrolls games. Though there are many good fantasy games out there, they are different. In so many ways... and its not just the textures, or the player models that are different, or the lore of the game. Its how we perceive the world... and how we change it. Its the feeling that we're not playing a linear game, but we ourselves or creating our own story. Its the sandbox experience.

From the leaked information regarding the upcoming Game Informer issue, it is quite evident you all have seemed to forget what makes an Elder Scrolls game. You are ruining an opportunity that you guys have of taking what has made the Elder Scrolls so great and really change the way MMO's are viewed and played. You guys can raise the bar... you guys can make an impact. You guys can revolutionize the MMO genre. But you're choosing not to... why? Because its difficult? Because turning a sandbox game into a theme park in so much easier? Because no matter what, you're still getting a paycheck at the end of the day?

I believe in the Elder Scrolls Online. I believe in what it could be for the MMO Market. I believe that it could be successful. But not with the current game plan. My faith is dwindling, Bethesda/Zenimax. Please, explain to me... why should I have faith in you when you guys choose to go the cheap and easy route? Why should I buy your game if it doesn't live to fill the shoes of the name it bares?

Make me an Elder Scrolls MMO. If it means waiting five, ten years... so be it. I want it... but not this. Not what you're currently promising. This is your chance to make an impact in the MMO industry... on your current path, you are letting your window of opportunity slip away... and once fans lose faith in your company, it will be hard to ever get that faith back. Don't [censored] this up, Zenimax... you only get one shot at a first impression. If you're going to do this game, do it right.

Uhm... It's Bethesda Gane Studios' good will that has been built up over a decade. And they are not involved with TESO beyond serving as consultants on lore.

Zenimax Online Studios is the subsidiary of Zenimax Media, the owners of Bethesda and all that came with them, including the Elder Scrolls IP, that is developing this game. ZOS was founded expressly for the purpose of online game development. And what better IP to use than Elder Scrolls to launch a major MMO with? Especially since they own the IP.

So the goodwill from Bethesda you speak of in not being scrapped. You'll see The Elder Scrolls VI in about three years. Same as you would if TESO was never announced. That's about how long it takes them to get a TES sequel completed and released.

What Zenimax Media does with the IPs it owns is not up to the developers. TESO started development five years ago. Zenimax Media could have directed Bethesda to develop it instead of Skyrim. But they didn't. They formed a new team and staffed it up independently of Bethesda for the purpose if this and any other future online games the company wants to pursue. Skyrim's development went undisturbed, as did TESO's development. Bethesda Game Studios has a budger and so does Zenimax Online Studios. And I would say a lot more went into developing Skyrim than previous TES titles. So that suggests to me that the budget increased.

So you don't like MMOs? Nobody says you have to play TESO when it comes out. But I love MMOs. I love TES. So I will at least give it a try.

Why are people so concerned with the combat system? Aren't some of the main TES coders from the original teams that worked on Dark Age of Camelot? That game's combat system and play style was far ahead of its time. I'm so sorry it's not going to be "carebear" enough for you WoWtards, that can't react quick enough to land a chain positional or a reactionary style.

Seriously?

Why does every poster here seem to think that they're better at game development than a team of professionals?

We dont, I know this is just a way for Zenimax to milk the elder scrolls for every last dime its worth and that pisses me off. If this actually looked like it was innovative at all I might be excited, but it looks like a WOW clone with elder scrolls slapped across the front of the box.

The combat is what's taking up most people's time. Normally we're used to leveling up, killing monsters, fighting other players, or just generally in some form of combat. We'd rather have something interesting rather than a button masher and number cruncher. Reaction combat is better, chaining is better, and hopefully that's what's in. I haven't read the Gameinformer article, but from what it seems that's the way it's looking to be right now.

Well, I wish I had your powers of perception, because I'm incapable of determining whether a game is a WoW-clone moneymaking venture based solely on a few screenshots and a vague preview article.

Well DAoC was as far away as you could get from a button masher. Critical thinking and reaction time is going to make a lot of people cry - those weak gamers, born in to this mmo era by starting out on WoW, just have nothing to compare to.

Well, I wish I had your powers of perception, because I'm incapable of determining whether a game is a WoW-clone moneymaking venture based solely on a few screenshots and a vague preview article.

Oh stop with the petty insults and grow up a bit, hmm? I agree with his view, it may not be a WoW clone but it certainly looks like a generic MMO. Aside from the fact that it's bashing parts of the Lore.

The article doesn't give nearly enough details to make the game a clear "WoW clone", and petty insults like "grow up a bit" only reinforce the fact that you can't pull on actual facts to back up your fabrications.

All warning signs point to WoW clone same old same old mmo boringer lame game. Where is the newness? Where is the TES? We shall have to wait and see but some people are not easily impressed by things that should never have been made. This would have to be special to attract us, but they've already said they were aiming for the 'typical' mmo player. Funny conisdering their fanbase plays single player rpgs

Only its not a WoW clone, as it strongly resembles a more open GuildWars2.

Grow up a bit?

I'm not sure that getting older somehow makes people psychic, but last I checked, we don't have nearly enough information for you to do anything but make things up in order to reinforce your pre-judgment of a game you've never played. The article doesn't give nearly enough details to make the game a clear "WoW clone", and petty insults like "grow up a bit" only reinforce the fact that you can't pull on actual facts to back up your fabrications.

It doesn't make people psychic, we've just seen the same old, same old enough times to see that it's just going to do the same thing yet again. It's possible to tell, even in the early stages of an MMO, if it's going down a bad path, or a good one. Not through mysterical mumbo jumbo, but just through seeing it happen like it has a thousand times before. I've never played the game, true enough, but I have to be skeptical. It's a hope that the game can change while it can instead of just going down the easy path like so many times before.

And I'm hardly making things up, just look at what's been given so far. I'm stating my opinion that the game is going to turn out a certain way; A Generic, here it is again, MMO.

All warning signs point to WoW clone same old same old mmo boringer lame game. Where is the newness? Where is the TES? We shall have to wait and see but some people are not easily impressed by things that should never have been made. This would have to be special to attract us, but they've already said they were aiming for the 'typical' mmo player. Funny conisdering their fanbase plays single player rpgs