Until we frenzy you into murdering your own family...

Then I would hunt you all down and chop off your heads

Version 1.0 of my 49 Perks Ice/Frost Witch..

Alteration (100):
Novice+Apprentice+Adept+Expert+Master=5
+Magic Resistance(3)=3
+Mage Armor(3)=3
+Stability=1
+Atronach=1
+Dual Casting=1
=14

Destruction (100):
Novice+Apprentice+Adept+Expert+Master=5
+Augmented Frost(2)+Deep Freeze=3
+Dual Casting+Impact=2
=10

Illusion (90):
Novice+Apprentice+Adept+Expert+Master=5
+Animage+Kindred Mage+Quiet Casting+Master of the Mind=4
+Hypnotic Gaze+Aspect of Terror=2
+Dual Casting=1
=12

Restoration (90):
Novice+Recovery(2)+Ward Absorb+Avoid Death=5

Pickpocket (40):
Light Fingers(1)+Night Thief+Poisoned=3

Alchemy (30):
Alchemist(1)+Physician+Poisoner=3

Sneak (30):
Stealth(1)+Backstab=2

I honestly like their racial bonus above a lot of others (Dunmer, Bosmer, Reguard, Khajiit, Nord). A constant boost to money is imo better than resistances to poison/disease and a once a day power.

Yeah, I know what you mean, but i would still prefer a perk point. Though Voice of the Emperor seems cool enough.

Their coin-finder is the objectification of the statement "Mo' money, mo' problems".

Your strategy sounds pretty good and you have a nice layout so good luck.

Of course, my layout is more awesome........just saying.........

What?! If this is true then that kinda svcks!

I thought it was like rank one = 20% boost and then rank two = 40% boost and it goes up by 20% per boost. It seemed very strong but obviously very worth it.

I guess if it is only 5% per perk point after the initial 20% [40% max] then that is not as good as I thought and I might just keep points for other things because the difference between 25% [2 perk points] and 40% [max 5 perk points] isn't that big as what I though it was 40% [2 perk points] and 80-100% [4 to max 5 perk points]..

That would free up a lot of points for me so I could probably get some considerable perks from skills I didn't think I could [Alteration/Enchanting/Smithing].

I can confirm 100% that it goes 20/40/60 at the very least. From that, I think it is safe to presume it goes 80/100 afterwards. Each rank also needs a higher 1H skill (40 for the third rank).

^ Okay well thanks for clarifying.

Then I will probably stay the way I initially thought but still I might not go the full 5 ranks so I can use the extras to put elsewhere since I have so many good options.

No, no no!

I CONFIRMED it yesterday that, for 1 Handed and 2 Handed, the % increases DO in fact, up by 20% every time all the way up to 100%

Furthermore, the cost for the first rank is a 20 in that skill and the next rank costs 10 more, I.E. 20, 30 40...

WTF is with all of this DisInformation?!

I just read what someone else posted and got a little worried but I am glad that two adamant sources are saying otherwise!

JaJa! your build is actually pretty similar (in skills at least) to my "blessed knight" character that I plan to roll at some point. So, yeah, I do agree your layout is awesome. However, NOT as awesome as mine! (

Considering boosting Smithing, Enchanting, Alchemy, Speech, Alteration, and backing it up with some sort of weapon or destruction and being a merchant.
Sounds fun, but I don't know if I could hold my own.

Because of the staves news, about the magic from it being affected by the school of the magic instead of enchanting. I've made a new build by changing my Sage into a Swordsage.
And to be honest, my character looks more fun to play now then it had.
So the news somehow did had a good effect on me.

Name: Thergal Votrine.
Race: Breton.
Class: Swordsage.
Skills: // One-Handed (10) // Alteration (14) // Enchanting (11) // Alchemy (10) // Speechcraft (4) //

One-Handed: (10).
Armsman (5).
Bladesman (3).
Fighting Stance (1).
Savage Strike (1).

Alteration: (14).
Master Alteration (5).
Alteration Duel Casting (1).
Mage Armor (3).
Magic resistance (3).
Stability (1).
Atronach (1).

Enchanting: (11).
Enchanter (5).
Fire Enchanter (1).
Frost Enchanter (1).
Storm Enchanter (1).
Insightful Enchanter (1).
Corpus Enchanter (1)
Extra Effect (1).

Alchemy: (10).
Alchemist (5).
Physician (1).
Poisoner (1).
Concentrated poison (1).
Snakeblood (1).
Purity (1).

Speechcraft: (4).
Haggling (1).
Bribery (1).
Persuasion (1).
Intimidation (1).

I forgo Conjuration and took One-Handed in its stead, but with the help of enchanting and alchemy I can boost the Conjuration skill and still be able to do decent staff summons with it.
And with the help of Enchanting and Alchemy I will be able to turn my sword into a dreadful thing. And by this proving yet again, that Knowledge is power .

Oh I didn't realise there was a thread for this.

Speech - 12
Haggling (5)
Allure
Merchant
Persuasion
Investor
Intimidation
Fence
Master Trader

Lockpick - 3
Golden Touch
Treasure Hunter
Unbreakable

Pickpocket - 8
Light Fingers (5)
Night Thief
Cutpurse
Extra Pockets

Two Handed - 12
Barbarian (5)
Champions Stance
Deep Wounds (3)
Devastating Blow
Great Critical Charge
Sweep
Warmaster

Heavy Armour - 10
Juggernaut (5)
Well Fitted
Tower of Strength
Conditioning
Matching Set
Reflect Blows

I just need some help with it really, going to play as an Imperial, mainly want to be rich. Incredibly rich. So, think that's good? Also, what perks should I take when, I'm guessing focus mostly on the Speech/Lockpick/Thief perks early game, and then Heavy Armour/Two Handed after that.

It's a pretty unusual, albeit in an interesting way, build you've got there

All we can do is speculate at the moment but I would considering alternating between a combat skill perk and a thief skill perk as you're levelling. There is a chance that if you focus solely on your speech and thievery perks to begin with then you will struggle against higher level enemies.

True, that's a good point actually. Thanks. (:

Build Edit: Final

49 Points

Destruction: Novice+Apprentice+Adept+Expert+Master+Augmented Flames(2)+Augmented Frost(2)+Double Casting+Impact= 11

Pickpocket: Light Fingers(5)+Night Thief+Cutpurse+Misdirection+Perfect Touch=9

Restoration: Novice+Apprentice+Adept+Expert+Master+Recovery(2)+Ward Absorb=8

Sneak: Stealth(5)+Backstab+Deadly Aim+Asassins Blade= 8

Speech: Haggling(5)+Allure+Bribery+Persuasion= 8

Alteration: Novice+Apprentice+Adept+Expert+Master=5

Is this viable?
1-Handed: Armsman(5), Bladesman(3), Fighting Stance, Critical Charge, Savage Strike

Destruction: Novice, etc; Dual Casting, Impact, Augmented Flames(2), Augmented Shock(2), Intense Flames, Disintegrate Enemies

Restoration: Novice, Recovery(2), Regeneration, Necromage

Light Armor: Agile Defender(5), Custom Fit, Matched Set, Unhindered, Wind-Walker, Deft Movement

Smithing: Steel, Arcane, Elven, Advanced, Glass, Dragon

Speech: Haggling, Bribery, Persuasion, Intimidation

So you're gonna be a battle mage with some smithing? It's nice but what are you going to do for magical defense? If you're gonna use Wards it may end up costing you a lot of magicka; unless you plan on only using the novice level versions.

My first character, Baard, will be a Nord mercenary and sellsword. He'll basically do anything as long as the price is high enough, which it often is. He's not particularly fond of fighting, but when he has to he favours the longsword and a bow. Oh, and his fists (You can fight with fist/one-handed, right?). He's also learned a thing or two when it comes to smithing, as he's often had to repair his own armour out in the field.

One-Handed: Armsman (5) + Bladesman (3) + Fighting Stance (1) + Savage Strike (1) + Critical Charge (1) + Paralysing Strike (1) = 12
Heavy Armour: Juggernaut (5) + Fists of Steel (1) + Cushioned (1) + Conditioning (1) + Well-Fitted (1) + Tower of Strength (1) + Matching Set (1) + Reflect Blows (1) =12
Archery: Overdraw (5) + Eagle Eye (1) + Steady Hand (1) + Power Shot (1) + Quick Shot (1) + Critical Shot (2) = 11
Speech: Haggling (5) + Bribery (1) + Persuasion (1) + Intimidation (1) = 7
Smithing: Steel Smithing (1) + Arcane Blacksmith (1) + Dwarven (1) + Orcish (1) + Ebony (1) + Daedric (1) + Dragon (1) = 7

Total: 49

Mmm...more than a "thing or two" it seems.

Question: shouldn't you consider adding some block perks in your build? Since you have one-handed and no magic, you can block with your sword so some ranks of "shield wall" would be handy.

I plan to get Enchanting up after these. Until then, I plan to dodge and kill things in a hurry.