Hello!

I just registered my new account just to tell you my opinion of achievements in this game and in general. I have played much online FPS shooters and in those games they are fine for some. They may challenge you to complete hard missions or goal objectives to get a new weapon or something, but I think that bringing achievements into Fallout: New Vegas is a bit too much. Why? One thing why Fallout is so good game, is the atmosphere and mood. If you are in a dark cave with just a spare ammo and bad equipment, a pop-up achievement totally breaks the mood for me and that makes the game look really bad. These kind of achievements are generally for casual gamers, because if you are skilled and talented player, you don't need any kind of pop-up to tell you that fact. This is ridiculous in a RPG-game. The stupidest thing is that very often they are soooooo easy to goal. Like "run 100 feets" or "reload your weapon ten times". Don't you think that these kind of things are totally for children, who actually are not even allowed to buy the game because of their age. What a mess.

So my bottom line. Please Obsidian, create an option to turn achievements off. Just please, I beg you. There is already many other people thinking the same as me.

- Greetings from Finland and apologizes of my perhaps bad English.

Achievements really do svck. It's like, "oh goodie, I beat the same quest everyone else has, I rock so hard!"

However, I think it'd be interesting to see points make a comeback. Let's say they reset every time you load your save, and you gain points from beating quests (getting more or less depending on various factors, like speed and how much HP you lose or whatever), enemies and so on. I wouldn't mind seeing if I could top someone's high score, just like I used to back in the old days.

They're forced to because of the consoles. Every console game has to have achievements.

I agree, Jara of the Black Wind. It wouldn't actually be too bad and it's totally different from those achievements. It would be nice if you could check your score from the menu once in a while so it wouldn't bother you while playing.

Achievements are a nice way of keeping track how far you've been in a game and what you have, well, achieved. If some people want to brag about it, sure, let them do that, but that doesn't make achievements stupid. Then keeping your savegames after you uninstalled is stupid, too.

Wow, i am totally against everyone here, and when I came into this thread I thought everyone would like achievements. Even though the FNV achievements are not great, just because a couple people don't like them does not mean that they will have no achievements for the millions of people that enjoy them. Why not turn of notifcations on your xbox. I know that and i dont even own one, pretty obvious.... :shakehead: :facepalm:

Like someone else said it's a carry over from the consoles.

I kind of like the achievements. some of them have funny names

:facepalm:

You can disable notifications such as achievement pop-ups on a Xbox 360. I believe you can do it with Windows Live as well. I am not sure about PS3 but it would be rather strange if it did not have it as an option. I myself love achievements. It's what made me buy an Xbox 360 because it's a record of your game history. I was so excited when Windows Live launched and my achievements would be attainable over my preferred system plus my console and be compiled together.

Gamer Score isn't a big deal. I've seen free games over Xbox Live which just boost your achievement score for basically doing nothing. Dorito's Delivery Truck game anyone?
It's when I look at a friend's achievements or vice-versa and we share a story behind attaining a certain achievement. That's what I love. Achievements which were an actual achievement with a story built around it of a fun or intense gaming experience is a very rewarding factor in my opinion past what a score could ever attain. Though many more achievements are easy pickin's and not really an achievement at all but every game system has achievements now and a certain score is expected to be filled. They want casual gamers to have some as well so I understand.. Not just children but advlts who game casually. As I already said. An option is already in place for you to disable it if you use Windows/Xbox Live. It's a beautiful system because if you dislike it you can just ignore it and not even be concerned with it.

Turning them off is as easy as it was for Fallout3 - simply ignore them.

Some folks love getting stats on the web for gameplay, and I think thats Great. Nothing like showing your buddies just how badly they svck after all! ;p For the rest of us that don't care? No harm, no foul, thank you - drive through.

If you don't have the mental power to ignore the little thing that pops up in the corner, go into Preferences and turn off all notifications and they won't pop up.

I look at this thread with disdain. :shakehead:

I agree, I can't stand the bloody things. Completing the same objectives as everybody else to raise my arbitrary number score seems stupid, to me. Hence why I turn the notifications off, it's like they're not there at all. As FONV is Steam-based, you can turn off the notifications in the options.

I never really understood achievement chasing. Just play the game and have fun.

That being said I do like some of the art work on some of those achievements.

As far as immersion breaking, when I'm playing a video game I'm playing a video game. It is hard for me to fool myself otherwise.

I for one get a small satisfying feel when they pop up. It's just a small indicator of progress. As some have pointed out, it seems you can turn of notifications. Therefore, you problem appear to be solved. Achievements won't bother you after all.

Btw, it's impossible for Obsidian to let people "turn off" achievements, because Microsoft policy demands them on every game. There are just certain requirements to release a game on the 360. (achievements, support xbox live, must be able to let the player play his own music etc.)

Oblivion in PS3 didn't have achievements you know.....

Do this:
Menu button
Right two times on 'D Pad'
Down once on 'D Pad'
Hit 'A' button on 'Notifications'
Hit 'A' once more to turn 'Show Notifications' OFF.
Menu button to exit
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This has been a guide to simply turn your Notifications off thus eliminating the 'Bleep Bloop' and pop up of achievement among other things as well. Also eliminating the point of this thread =]

Mmmhmmm and what happens if they're on a PS3 or a PC? Quick! more instructions :angel:

The PS3 didn't have the trophies back then you know...

Is this some kind of new gamer snobbery thing that I've just come across? Who cares? Turn it off or ignore it - no need to hold those that do like them in contempt.

ok, yeah the achievement message lasts for what 3 to 5 seconds I really don't see what the problem is :facepalm:

That's right, let's remove Achievements/Trophies, even though millions of people like them, because someone doesn't want to turn off the notifications for them.

It's that basic human "collecting" impulse - the same reason it's fun to open packs of baseball/Magic/etc cards, catch every Pokemon, find all the bobbleheads, get a complete set of Star Wars series 1 figures, etc.

And, of course, different people are more obsessive about it than others.

Playing RPGs tends to make susceptible to that. So if anything I would say it fits them better than most games.

achievments are the worst thing to happen to gaming since battletoads on the nes.