http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1331372-bioware-loves-the-elder-scrolls/ see here

Lol, that thread reminds me of the whole "Warhammer is stealing from Star craft" thing that people went on about for a while. Not realizing that Warhammer was made in the like 80's.

http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Black_Marsh

Hey look at that D2 must be stealing from TES too!

http://www.geodata.us/australia_names_maps/aumaps.php?fid=232461&f=231&name=Black%20Marsh

Hey wait now TES is stealign from real life! XD

i would say oblivion but i was done with that game almost two years ago. i cant think of any that come to mind. its a good game.....hell its a great game but it doesnt even make my top 10 list.

ooh I didn't realize Black Marsh was an original place. But still terms like Nerevar and Sera.......

Honestly? Itself... it's just so... so... repetitive, it lacks any feel of RPG progression beyond basic perk and health/stamina/magic increases and it lacks any manner of actually changing the playthrough of characters dependent upon their supposed "role-playing choices", which the game also unfortunately lacks. The game consists of continual dungeon-diving for no real rewards (lack of hand-placed loot, lack of reputation system means nobody cares) and fails to provide proper tools for role-playing. The world is well-crafted, the soundtrack excellently handled, and the art style/superficial presentation pretty good, but it's so shallow and lacking underneath that it lacks that RPG vibe which gives the RPG genre a re-playability and motivation other genres lack. I'm underwhelmed, to say the least, and unfortunately cannot see myself returning to the game with enthusiasm any time soon... the most difference I could make is replacing heavy armor with light and my shield with a stave while taking some enchanting and light armor perks instead of blocking and heavy armor ones.

That's it, I cannot do a run-through with different factions, I cannot forge a separate identity for any new character as the game lacks a reputation system to do so, I cannot progress through quests in different manners to be worth seeing different outcomes, and I simply don't have enough room to stretch and actually separate my character from anyone else's. There are no tools to make a unique identity and as such, one relatively short playthrough is enough unless I get the occasional urge to come back and just clear out a few more dungeons to relieve some steam. Then don't get me started on how disgusted I am with its technical condition, especially being a PS3 player. It's just... not what I expected it to be. I'm done and burnt out after 70 hours and I question whether I'll ever really seriously pick it up and enjoy it after such a lackluster initial performance. What a pity.

Agreed.

double agreed. ill be playing fallout 3 and fallout NV and STALKER long after im done with skyrim......unless they come out with some fantastic mods of course.

agreed, if any game can kill Skyrim it's skyrim. But it's a good start though.

I'm back to KotOR, at the moment.

/shrug

I really enjoy the combat dynamic introduced with dual wielding, but I can understand where you're coming from.

L.A Noire is so story driven, maybe I was just burnt out on endless dialogue and facial expressions that I've blinded myself with the action in contrast to Skyrim.

To each thier own I guess, god... maybe I AM gonna have to soldier through Fallout to see what all the fuss is about.

Dragon age 2 scrapped itself and should take notes from TES..i was playing OB waiting on skyrim and finally finished a week before release so i'm good

made this button too just so you can never forget about skyrim, dovahkiin, or fus ro dah.

All the other games on my harddrive currently except SC2 >.>

And Firefox if you wanna be slightly vague about what you consider to be a game

Not a single thing. I could play Oblivion, I have played Morrowind and KotoR, NVN and several other old RPGs. Skyrim is a great game, one of the best I have ever played, but there are somethings that Skyrim cannot do for me in its current state. Morrowind is a classic that I never fully played through, Oblivion has been modded to suit my experience perfectly, KotoR has a great combat system and deep world and once again is a classic I have never played, NVN is the deepest RPG in terms of stats and dice rolls that I have ever played and other games are just not Skyrim so I play them when I want to. Skyrim is a singular experience, I dont see it as a new chapter or a new beginning, Skyrim, MW, Oblivion all have different features and settings that I find interesting and worthy of another play.

DA:O was and still is an excellent game, though I've sorta played it to death.

DA:2 never was and never will be an excellent game

Skyrim is just one more awesome CRPG in a long line of good CRPGs.

That being said, I tried to fire up Oblivion after 2 Skyrim playthroughs - no can do

Morrowind and Skyrim uses terms from dozens of real life ancient and medieval stuff. Words such as Orc, Jarl, Dagon, etc half the weird stuff is all from relaity or a mix of reality + ancient. So you can`t really accuse any other rpg of doing it since they probably research old-fashioned myths stuff too.

After playing Skyrim, I suppose I could never go back and play Skyrim.

Skyrim scrapped Skyrim

I think I will play FO:NV again for sure. The difference in genres are enough to separate the two for me.

In terms of fantasy RPGs, it will be Skyrim alone w/mods as they appear. I doubt I'll ever go backward simply b/c I enjoy the evolution of the ES games.

I am definitely going to try Kingdoms of Amalur (spelling?) when it releases and see if it gives Skyrim a run for the money or not.

J

Skyrim.

No joke. I got to a point last night after about 110ish hours where I just stared at the screen and realized it was over and I can't see myself going back.

Maybe not excellent but a good one, one that doesn't deserve the repetitive slating it still gets, especially since the developers have tried to make those changes people wanted in thier DLC's. I've gone back to it for the Characters and the story it does so well, frankly I find the "emotionally immature" complaint nonsense especially when it comes from defenders of Skyrim due to the fact planks of wood couldn't possibly be more mature then anyone character in DAII, even Hope in FFXIII beats Skyrim for personality and that takes some skill. The only real "disaster" in DA II is the dungeons and a premature ending, both the blame lies at EA's feet and both DLC could change but the story lacking in skyrim can't be injected into without being in the middle of content already there. For 2 years, a smaller bugdet and part of the team doing dlc for origins it's pretty impressive really for only the second game in a series, not the 5th.

Frankly I'm more worried about DA III's future now Bioware have said they are looking to Skyrim for inspiration (more like EA's jealousy of the money), TES could gain more from DA then the other way round, from perks to story and characters to stylized kills.


Surpised at how many are saying the same thing, thought I'd be the only one, that last line pretty much sums up how my last play went, just stared at the screen til I realized I couldn't bring myself to use the controller anymore an turned it off. At this point I'm beginning to wonder if I was kidding myself about DLC drawing me back, if the main games content can't I don't see how that could. Think when I go to town later this week I'll be trading it in, see if Ultimate DA:O is in stock, still not played some of the DLC for that but it'd be cheaper to get that disc then purchase it individually. Then maybe come back to this with GoTY and a better PC that can handle that version to mod it into an unrecognisable state.

Dragon Age origins is a classic it has a story and strong characters something Skyrim lacks.AS for Dragon Age 2 that was a complete waste of time blame the consoles for that mess of a game.For me The Witcher 2 has been the best game i have played in a few years followed by Empire Total War(after alot of Patches)then Skyrim

Agreed as well. It is a new idea to me as Skyrim is the first game in Elder Scrolls Series. The open world setting is a blast to me. However, the interaction between the character of the world is not enough (Apart from NPC one-liner or Civil War related quest, I don't see any change in the world) and there are not enough choices to finish the quests (e.g. refuse those evil Daedric Princes quest or choice to disrupt their plan). The marriage and spouse system just only serve as a stable source of income and infinite supply of food. It makes me miss the interaction among the companions of DAO as well.

DA2, what is it?

I forgot to mention this about Dragon Age 2 this sums the game up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV97ozaD4vs enough said.