what.........amy winehouse died from an overdose? what a shock! i never ever saw that one coming. :rolleyes:

To be fair, I don't think the cause of death has been determined yet (or revealed to the public), but I'd be surprised if it was due to something else to be honest.

Would kinda screw with everyone's obituaries of a life wasted if it turned out she just slipped in the shower.

Great job on taking control of your life though :goodjob: (not being sarcastic if anyone thinks I am).

Im one of the people who dosent sympathise with her.
I dont even know why these types of people take drugs. She lived a better life than most, not having to worry about bills or anything, you can say money dosent buy hapiness, but your going to be happier when your not worrying about it, and grinding away at a job you hate to make ends meet. She could have easily got private treatment if that was a big enough issue. But she didnt.

Even if you didn't like her or didn't support what she got into (which I hope no one here does), she was still someone's child at one point, and I'm sure that person was thrilled to have her. It's sad when anyone dies, whether it be someone who took her own life in the wrong direction or the people in Norway that were killed recently. I don't want to force anyone to see the tragedy in it, but you ought to respect that she has a family that loved her no matter what, just like countless other people who died this week.

Just my two cents.

I will fault people for "making a few jokes or stating that they don't care about someone who was too weak to take matters into her own hands and turn her life around." here on a public forum. There is no need to post everything you think about any given topic and people should really learn to just shut their damn mouths rather than say things that don't need to be said.

She was another human, although we all knew she had her faults, and out of respect to her and her family and friends people should just keep quiet if they don't have anything meaningful to say.

I'm sorry that you don't agree with everything or anything we say, but we all have a right to speak our minds here, not just you.

Amy Winehouse had her fair share of problems yes, most of those problems were due to her choices and actions in life. Something you haven't appeared to understand here is that she was responsible for her actions, not her family, not her manager, or agent or what have you, her, her, and her alone made the choices she made. The sad part of it is that those that knew her the best will have to live with the fact that no matter what they may or may not have tried to help her help herself, did nothing to stop her from continuing on this destructive path that cost her everything.

As someone has already posted, she had all the cards and screwed it up big time. A very talented musician that threw her talent and life in the toilet for drugs. Sorry, but you'll get no sympathy for Amy out of me

:yes: It doesn't matter what you think, someone has died and the respectful thing to do is either give your condolences or keep your mouth shut.
I don't want to hear your negative views, because honestly, there are enough [censored]s in the world making derisive comments as it is.

She had a unique voice, and made good music, and she, like many others, (is presumed to have) succumbed to one of her vices. I feel sad for her, just as I feel sad for everyone else I hear about dying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRSQcbNBPiY


We don't want sympathy, we want some empathy, something you don't seem to have. I don't care if you didn't like her choices in life, she's dead now, and it is incredibly taboo amongst ALL cultures to disrespect the dead.

For someone who held the world in the palm of her hand and threw it away? Why should I? She could've had or done anything she wanted, but she chose drugs instead,...and now she's dead because of them.

And Syd Barrett developed mental issues and was kicked out of Pink Floyd for what reason again?

In your oppinion. I dont find it disrespectful. peope have oppinions different to yours *gasp* they may not think a person deserves sympathy for ruining thier own lives by the choices they made.
Here is the thing, swap her with some other addict who ODs, I bet you people would react far differently. People always treat celebrity deaths differently. You know like how we have "Darwin award" posts for some people.

Oh and I dont care what a culture says, respect isnt something I should give someone just for dying. And I dont see how pointing out how it was self inflicted is disrespectful.

No, I feel sad to hear about the death of anyone. Even the people who celebrated Bin Laden's death made me feel slightly uncomfortable.

...and just what does this have to do with Amy Winehouse Dying? I'll tell you what it has to do with it...nothing. Syd Barrett did not die from abusing drugs. He died 40 years after he quit making music. Try doing a little homework next time. :poke:

Well that's too bad. I didn't really care for her or her music, but a life is a life and it's a shame to see one end young.

What did I think when I saw this, meh. I'd have the same reaction if snooki from Jersey shore died.

So judgemental. :nope: She grew up in a broken home. She started smoking pot at 15 and had troubles in school. She was in a bad relationship with a loser and criminal most of her life. She smoked, she drank, she did cocaine and heroine. She also eventually tried to stop. You can hear all of that in her music, which was soulful and disarmingly honest. She never tried to pretend she was perfect. If it makes you feel better to just dismiss her as a druggie and a loser, then that is your perogative, but you miss out on a person who was complex and interesting when taken as a whole.

I didn't say he died of his drug use...
He did throw away everything he had, lost all his friends, developed mental issues, and became a recluse.
Amy Winehouse did the same except that instead of surviving her drug use, she died.

So did I, what the point? Making excuses for her continued self destructive path was likely a contributing factor in her death.

And what, that makes her a terrible person?
Everyone makes bad decisions, her's killed her.

I don't think I ever said it made her a terrible person. She did make terrible decisions, it still doesn't change my opinion.

Oh, and the effect of drugs on Syd's mental instability is debatable, but not the place for it here.

"So did I" isn't a valid counterargument. How can you expect an out-of-control person to control themselves? I'd blame her success and her ill mind.

I had just as troubled a childhood and never smoked, drank, or did any drugs, but you don't see me judging people who do/did. Maybe you could just show a little understanding once in a while, instead of always looking down on people. Her life, while short, was not a wasted one. She recorded music that many people enjoy, and more than that, opened the door for other talented young women to follow her.

EDIT: Besides, all her problems drove her art. Her music wouldn't have been nearly as remarkable if she had been a happy, well-adjusted individual. The relationship between musicians and drugs and mental illness is as long as it is sad. Look at Vincent van Gogh. Did he waste his life too?

And how did she get out of control in the first place? She made a decision to start using drugs, that's how. No one else to blame for the death of Amy Winhouse than Amy Winehouse...I guess you could try to pin some of the blame on the drug dealer who was selling her the drugs, but then if it wasn't him/her, she would've bought those drugs from someone else instead...on her own. Again, nobody else to blame for her choices.

Condolences to her family and friends, ect. No point in giving moral lectures anymore, everything has consequences and it didn't end well for her.

That said, I think you'd require a frightening amount of empathy to actually feel personally down about it, unless you're a devoted fan or something.

Woah guys calm down, I didn't think this would turn out so bad. We all have valid points here. Barettsfloyd is just trying to point out that sure she had a horrible childhood...but she made it big time! She had the money, the fame, to do what she wanted. But even with the thing that most drug addicts never seem to have enough of, she still kept doing it. If she cared about her life, her career, what she had earned to that point, she would have stopped.

Now of course, I understand the significant issues of drug addiction. But the fact remains you can get over an addiction. You can seek help. And I don't see the validity of defending her drug addiction simply because she's addicted, that seems like a fallacy. It's always sad to see someone pass, believe me. I have lost somebody over a conflict of drugs. The reason I dont feel as much empathy for her as say, the Oslo victims is because she could have changed. She had the resources.

Now seriously, stop trying to prove each other wrong. It's just opinions. And stop hurting on barettsfloyd opinion...hating on his username, really? The guys been there, respect the firsthand experience.

That's really all I gotta say.