Tarenmana shernma tresa`sefeargn

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There is a guy at the Nightgate Inn that carries one, I am not sure of his importance though, not sure if he is MQ related or not so not sure of the effects of killing him and taking it.

I was reading those books again last week.

Heh. Yah. I have the WHOLE STACK at chairside again (hardbacks all, so it's a HUGE stack....) Winter's my time for reading stuff like that - just finished all of Tolkien again, now on to Misty....

The best book series ever written has been The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan. Check it out you won't be dissappointed.

We'll agree to disagree on that. I picked up his first book when it came out (in fact I have a signed first edition for which I paid a lot of money). Read it.... and never wanted to read another one. Just not my thing. Daughter loves the series, and that's fine - no one is the same when it comes to what entertains.... or doesn't.

[And once again, my apologies to whomever for the derail....]

Good doco on Katana's by nat geo for those interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHH31KR_UW0

But some good info in this thread, i'm gonna get me some of those swords now

Nope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longsword

If he is, it's ironic since it's true. Katanas are superb against unarmored opponents, but against armor they're a complete joke. The blade is way too thick and way too rigid.

And while there's really no "better" sword design, westerners made better steel - the wootz/damascus comes from India. So you could indeed say that their swords were "better".

The real irony here is that no one wears armor anymore



The longsword was replaced by rapiers and sideswords.

Is that why the Europeans developed blunt weapons, because their swords were so effective against armour? Besides Asians stoped wearing armour, once the chinese developed gunpowder, and not because their swords were ineffetive. The swords are still made today as they were made in the old days, and they can certainly pierce steel plating.

Turns out weapon research and development is nothing new eh.

Ignorance is strong in this one.

http://www.thearma.org/essays/hype.htm

Here, knock yourself out.

The swords make great decoration pieces you don't see elaborate craftmanships on western swords. Maybe elaborate hilts, but not elaborate blades

I don't believe a word he says. You must be stupid to believe a flexible sword is going to be better at stabbing and piercing a rigid armour.

I am actually a member of ARMA.

You gotta take that with a grain of salt as well, especially since that guy is the head of an organization trying to promote western martial arts.

In fact he is just debunking myths, not really saying katanas are bad.

And that automatically makes him a jaded, envious liar who will downgrade other martial arts? He praises the katana himself on few occassions in the article. But it's just wrong design to cut(or pierce) through armor, period. You wouldn't expect to cut through armor with a sabre either.


Yeah, it shows.

I said take it with a grain of salt, obviously that means something COMPLETELY different to you.

The fact is, arguing about whether the katana, longsword, or whatever is better is stupid.

It is like arguing about which is a better tool, a wrench or a screwdriver.

When the fact of the matter is, they are both effective at the task they were made for.

Good series, but given you're responding to someone who "has just finished reading their Tolkien"... no. Not the "best ever".

Sigh...
"That girl" is found in pretty much every modern-ish civilization. I can assure you, that is extremely atypical of Japanese behavior.

As absolutely any nation can be... Western cultures can be pretty xenophobic too.

Been there more than a few times myself!

Laughed here. Love that quote.

The point is the point here though, let me exaggerate it to make it more clear.
Someone tries to stab you with a housebrick, not really going to puncture you is it. Now on the other hand someone does the same with point of a quill.
Also the flexibility isn't like rubber, it is just enough to stop the the blade shearing when it is twisted in any manner during the stabbing motion.
It is the same with every day items, a little flexibilty can make it stronger over something that is so brutaly hard that it is also brittle.

Horses for courses. Of course European swords are better at piercing armor, that what they were made for. That being said a Katana or Yedo can still pierce just not as well. A European blade is not very effective at slashing. You can surley cut someone that way with it. But it wasn't designed to do so. Where the curve along with the shape of the edge of a katana will cut through a body easily. With that said a knight with full plate armor was a sitting duck while off his horse. The battle of hastings proved that one. The French knights in full armor were taken down by archers using their daggers. Which eventhough I like using ebony and plate armor in skyrim, it is nowhere near realistic to be running around all day in the stuff.

I like the katanas, but it kind of blows that there is only one dai-katana in the game, and you have to do some pretty repugnant stuff to make use of it.. not to mention it's bugs or quirks. Oblivion had them all over the place. Also it blows that katanas aren't just dai-katanas, period. It's not common to see people fighting with them and a shield. There aren't any real kenjutsu/kendo like animations to make the Blades seem more like Samurai. I've played crappy mmo's that at least changed your character's stance if you wielded a sword like that.

Like an original xbox, no flexibility, survives every drop known to man.
Xbox 360 with a bit more flex in the casing, dies after falling 2 inches.

Wait... wtf am I even saying. Ignore me.
Tis funny though.

Reread the chain of posts and im sure it will become clear as to what is confusing in your initial post.


But here a hint.