Anyone Else Agree That The Armour in Skyrim needs to be Redo

Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:34 am

Dont need to be redone,But i sure want more armors in the game

This. Don't remove existing armor, just add more.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:00 am

Cleavage/boob plate armors are not realistic. I, personally, like my armor to look like it protects a person, rather than making them look like a stripper.

Actually, it would work better than the Male version of the same armor.

Armor is angled and such not only to fit the curves of the body, but also to absorb and deflect incoming blows. having a flat or smooth curved chest plate doesn't do that as well as having a chest plate with several "weird" angles on it. the incoming weapon will twist is a fashion not native to the movements of the hand and wrist holding said weapon, and actually has a chance to disarm your attacker depending upon how much force they apply to the strike.

In the case of simple physics, Bewb armor would help to save a Females life better than the Male version.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:48 am

Actually, it would work better than the Male version of the same armor.

Armor is angled and such not only to fit the curves of the body, but also to absorb and deflect incoming blows. having a flat or smooth curved chest plate doesn't do that as well as having a chest plate with several "weird" angles on it. the incoming weapon will twist is a fashion not native to the movements of the hand and wrist holding said weapon, and actually has a chance to disarm your attacker depending upon how much force they apply to the strike.

In the case of simple physics, Bewb armor would help to save a Females life better than the Male version.
In other words...protect the boobs
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:04 pm

In other words...protect the boobs

That's my motto...
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:38 pm

And as always, there's a mod for that :hehe: It separates design and materials from each other, like i now have an iron greatsword with the design of a glass one. And a nordic dwemer-metal greatsword is a sight to behold :ooo: However the styles come from books, not from smiths. And it doesn't cover armor. Yet :wink:

That would been a good idea for Bethesda to implement to begin with. But they are known to look for popular mods for inspiration, so maybe something like that will be in the next game?
That is not the point, i have browsed the Nexus and still have yet to see an armor mod or smithing mod that gives you OB Daedric or OB Shrouded or ANY OB armor. That was the point of the idea: To make armors from other provinces. So far the only Shrouded armor mods are terrible re-colors of Mage Robes, Heavy armor mixes, and other unworthy junk. Apparently even though "mods are sooo much better than the vanilla" nobody seems to be able to make something good that we have seen in the past games
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:21 am

Cleavage/boob plate armors are not realistic.

No, but they are part of the decades-long history of "fantasy" (gaming, movies, novels, paintings, etc). And honestly, the TES series is one of the more conservative ones.... I'm always surprised by people getting down on them about the armor. :shrug:


(Me, I'm a fantasy fan from way back. Been reading novels & following artists - like Frazetta, Whelan, Parkinson, etc - since the 70's. I've got no problems at all with "unrealistic" armor - it'd be boring if everyone just looked like a completely functional, featureless tincan. :tongue:)
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:57 am

That is not the point, i have browsed the Nexus and still have yet to see an armor mod or smithing mod that gives you OB Daedric or OB Shrouded or ANY OB armor. That was the point of the idea: To make armors from other provinces.

Ah, i misunderstood then. There is a "Weapons of the Third Era" mod that has weapon styles from Morrowind i think, but i haven't seen one for armors.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:49 am

Actually, it would work better than the Male version of the same armor.

Armor is angled and such not only to fit the curves of the body, but also to absorb and deflect incoming blows. having a flat or smooth curved chest plate doesn't do that as well as having a chest plate with several "weird" angles on it. the incoming weapon will twist is a fashion not native to the movements of the hand and wrist holding said weapon, and actually has a chance to disarm your attacker depending upon how much force they apply to the strike.

In the case of simple physics, Bewb armor would help to save a Females life better than the Male version.

Have you any idea what briasts are made of? What happens when you hit briasts? I freaking hurts! You nearly collapse with the pain. And briasts are soft, completely soft. Look at briasts, do they look like something you'd want deflecting a blow?! Seriously, look at some briasts online, if you have to. They're soft, and they make a smooth, none defined shape under the lightest shirt or top. And what you wear on briasts? It's soft. Bras are made to keep your shape, and stop your briast moving. They are not hard, they're solid, soft constructions that give. You would'nt put METAL, STRAIGHT ON TOP OF, soft, easily hurt briasts?! I am a woman, I know these things.

The boob plates would have no deflection ability whatsoever! Armour deflects blows when it is flat and built like a tank. It is a thick layer between you and death. The deflection relies on that tank on your chest staying solid like a shield. No shapes, no dips, just a solid, plain, basic shape that stops blows. That stands away from your body. That keeps enemy weapons, away from your chest. There is no armour level in a round shape round unrealistic briasts! The part were they press in the middle, or is a cleavage, that would have zero armour at all. The point is to keep enemies away from that vunerable middle of your chest.

briasts don't even look like the boobplates! They don't hang in perfect, pert shapes that are that spread apart! It would rip them off just wearing that armour. The moment you moved, you'd rip your own briasts off. The moment you turn with your waist.
The orcish amrour looks like sheer pain.
You would'nt be able to breath in the boobplate armour. It's meant to be armour, not a corset!
The boobplates on females and males would get both killed in second, and have zero armour or deflection.

There are corsets that don't look that unaturally defined!

Armour moves, it hurts, it presses in. You wear a thick surcoat under it, then it's tied on at points. When you attack the briastplate and armour moves so you can. The briastplate is a big space inside that goes over your already none visable briasts or chest.
It has to move a bit or you'd be like a over armoured turtle.
It does'nt literally lie straight onto your skin!
You'd get ripped up in seconds if it did!

Dwemer armour looks like real armour. That is the best, most realistic heavy armour in the entire game. Armour is meant to look like that!
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:01 am

~ snip ~

After working with various actual armor makers over the years and touring the different Renaissance Fairs and performing in demonstrations, I like to think I know how actual armor works. It doesn't move as much as you seem to think it should, if it did it would just get knocked right off of you. the leather straps and metal clasps can only take so much abuse.

When working with plate armor (as your posts reference) the point is that it doesn't move too much at all. the sheer impenitrability of the armor is what stops the hit from penetrating, and the surcoat pads your body from the impact as well as cushioning your flesh from the abrasiveness of the armor.

Angles deflect blows, that's why the best armor had complex ones.

I stand by my earlier statements.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:02 am

Have you any idea what briasts are made of? What happens when you hit briasts? I freaking hurts! You nearly collapse with the pain. And briasts are soft, completely soft. Look at briasts, do they look like something you'd want deflecting a blow?! Seriously, look at some briasts online, if you have to. They're soft, and they make a smooth, none defined shape under the lightest shirt or top. I am a woman, I know these things.

The boob plates would have no deflection ability whatsoever! Armour deflects blows when it is flat and built like a tank. It is a thick layer between you and death. The deflection relies on that tank on your chest staying solid like a shield. No shapes, no dips, just a solid, plain, basic shape that stops blows. That stands away from your body. That keeps enemy weapons, away from your chest. There is no armour level in a round shape round unrealistic briasts! The part were they press in the middle, or is a cleavage, that would have zero armour at all. The point is to keep enemies away from that vunerable middle of your chest.

briasts don't even look like the boobplates! They don't hang in perfect, pert shapes that are that spread apart! It would rip them off just wearing that armour. The moment you moved, you'd rip your own briasts off. The moment you turn with your waist.
The orcish amrour looks like sheer pain.
You would'nt be able to breath in the boobplate armour. It's meant to be armour, not a corset!
The boobplates on females and males would get both killed in second, and have zero armour or deflection.

There are corsets that don't look that unaturally defined!

Armour moves, it hurts, it presses in. You wear a thick surcoat under it, then it's tied on at points. When you attack the briastplate and armour moves so you can. The briastplate is a big space inside that goes over your already none visable briasts or chest.
It has to move a bit or you'd be like a over armoured turtle.
It does'nt literally lie straight onto your skin!
You'd get ripped up in seconds if it did!

Dwemer armour looks like real armour. That is the best, most realistic heavy armour in the entire game. Armour is meant to look like that!
TES=Fantasy Genre, Fantasy Genre=Female Boob Armor since Ancient Nerd Times
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:56 pm

Thanks for backin' me up, Zxhraivretiaiel. Also, to Uriel Nocturne: if bewb plates *did* work well, real armor would have it. It doesn't.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:45 pm

One word: MOD!!!
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:54 am

Personally I think the armor in skyrim is really well-done. Comparing it to Oblivion it's a huge improvement. My favorite is glass
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:55 am

Personally I think the armor in skyrim is really well-done. Comparing it to Oblivion it's a huge improvement. My favorite is glass
Oh damn glass was HORRIBLE in OB
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:45 am

Thanks for backin' me up, Zxhraivretiaiel. Also, to Uriel Nocturne: if bewb plates *did* work well, real armor would have it. It doesn't.

And there weren't many "real" female knights/soldiers/city guard either. It's an area dominated by men.

So again, like Drake mentioned, TES = Fantasy, Fantasy = Boob Armor (version II comes complete with sword-trapping cleavage and boob kung-fu grip).
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:56 pm

Oh damn glass was HORRIBLE in OB

Or from SI, the Amber Armor? You looked like some old scientist was going to tap you for dino DNA at any moment...
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:44 am

Or from SI, the Amber Armor? You looked like some old scientist was going to tap you for dino DNA at any moment...
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:59 am

And there weren't many "real" female knights/soldiers/city guard either. It's an area dominated by men.

So again, like Drake mentioned, TES = Fantasy, Fantasy = Boob Armor (version II comes complete with sword-trapping cleavage and boob kung-fu grip).
Yes - but if bewb plates were superior then they'd always be used for everyone.

Also, yeah, I get that it's the fantasy stereotype, and I don't agree with this stereotype. Which is why I post here.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:44 pm

Yes - but if bewb plates were superior then they'd always be used for everyone.

Also, yeah, I get that it's the fantasy stereotype, and I don't agree with this stereotype. Which is why I post here.
I dont like the stereotype that Orcs are dumb brutes and Elves are frail and superior in magic, but you dont see me trying to change Fantasy games
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:20 pm

I dont like the stereotype that Orcs are dumb brutes and Elves are frail and superior in magic, but you dont see me trying to change Fantasy games
That's what I like about TES - Orcs don't have to be dumb brutes, and only High Elves are better with magic. Anyway, the second best race for magic (in previous games at least) was the Breton.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:11 pm

Yes - but if bewb plates were superior then they'd always be used for everyone.

Also, yeah, I get that it's the fantasy stereotype, and I don't agree with this stereotype. Which is why I post here.

It's the whole genre, not just TES. If the stereotype bothers you that much, go post the same stuff on the Lord of the Rings fan sites and watch the kinds of responses that you get. ;) That'll be fun...

This is just the way the genre is. If it bothers you, stay away from it.

I'm not trying to be a [censored], but that's the reality of it, and after the last 40+ years, I seriously doubt that the genre is going to change.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:44 am

Aesthetically, I like the "Basic" Armors a lot better. Iron, Hide, Scaled. I'd absolutely love to see some chainmails (Like Mithril in Oblivion) make an appearance for Light Armor. Something that looks high-end, but also practical. (All the high-end Light armor looks too flashy)


My only complaints about Heavy Armors aesthetically, is Daedric Armor, while very cool, should have featured an option like Steel Armor. A mesh with and without Pauldrons. I personally think the giant skyscraqer shoulderspikes are just too obnoxious. Dragonbone Armor looks like it's fashioned from a hunk of bone though, it's not pretty, but it's ugly within context.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:49 am

It's the whole genre, not just TES. If the stereotype bothers you that much, go post the same stuff on the Lord of the Rings fan sites and watch the kinds of responses that you get. :wink: That'll be fun...

This is just the way the genre is. If it bothers you, stay away from it.

I'm not trying to be a [censored], but that's the reality of it, and after the last 40+ years, I seriously doubt that the genre is going to change.
I'm not entirely sure how I could complain how armor looks in a book, and it looked cool in the movies.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:35 am

I'm not entirely sure how I could complain how armor looks in a book, and it looked cool in the movies.

I was speaking of the stereotyping, not the look of the armor in that post. Sorry if I was obscure.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:48 am

I was speaking of the stereotyping, not the look of the armor in that post. Sorry if I was obscure.
Ah, yes. Anyway, LOTR was one of the things that caused stereotypes of the fantasy genre, it's not like Tolkien could have had many inspirations. Unlike modern fantasy, which chooses to be stereotypical.
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