your forgetting that fo3 had hundreds of hours in content, while the rpg wasnt overly heavy it was decent enough, the content that dropped in spite of the small improvements. fo3 was better than the first 2 COD: MW and prob the next(not tryin to dis COD they were great, but fo3 was better)

So far for me, I am having a great time. I do not feel ripped off at all.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas#Changes_from_Fallout_3

I'm not sure how accurate that is(does it include DLC from f3?) but if it is accurate then the game is much bigger then f3 ever was. I will agree that the map seems small for there to supposedly be over 400 locations(i don't think they meant discoverable locations) I don't mind the map sizes and it actually is a good size imo.. I'm 20 hours into the game(about to be 10 or less and 14 levels ago because of the dumb vault 11/lucky 38 bug thats ruined my game experience to this point) but i can already tell you there is more quests to do and they are a bit more intresting

Nope. I don't feel ripped off. I like it alot since it's like fallout 2 revamped.

Content was shallow. If you mean by having 50 tunnels that all look the same, have 3 ghouls and a couple stimpaks, no quests or any good loot? I'll take quality over quantity, thats wghat vegas has. Amazing people like the mindless grind of oblivion and fallout 3's, shallow content.

Newsflash, they both have a similar amount of content. The map looks smaller, but its a different scale, an inch across the map in vegas is a lot further then it was in 3. Vegas has better content.

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a world that prods you to go a certain direction and stops you with hordes of monsters(death claws and the likes) to stop you from going places
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What? Did you not talk to anybody in goodsprings? They dont prod you to go north from there. You get told a few times to avoid that path, to go north, then east and loop around to get to Vegas.

[quote name='bellabell' date='28 October 2010 - 07:32 AM' timestamp='1288276320' post='16585741']
basically, it just seems to me that we invested alot of waiting, and worse, cash, for a game that is simply not worth it. dont get me wrong, its a fun game and all, but i feel ripped off and mislead that this game would be as good or better than fo3, which in my opinion it isnt. [/quote]
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Misled by who? By somebody opinion from a board? And opinion is just that. Its not a fact.

I dont feel ripped off at all. Ive payed 60 dollars for games that I beat in a weekend. Ive barely made it to the strip in my 40 hours of play.

I agree with a lot of the general complaints being made lately, I also feel that FO3 was a better game than NV, I don't however feel "ripped off". NV was certainly enjoyable and a well done game. No it is not as massive or epic as FO3 but I had fun, that is really all that matters to me.

I've played everyday for an average of 2 hours since release and I haven't finished the MQ yet.

in the end, its all mindless when you get down to it. atleast in fo3 there was alot more. im not saying sacrifice quality, but i want a tasty glass of a game rather than a tiny shot of good content. sure there was some stuff fo3 could have focused on, but the game had alot to it, it had funny moments and a lot of them, it had fighting, and alot of it, it had places to explore and lots of them and over all it had freedom to go where you wanted when you wanted how you wanted. fallout new vegas simply doesnt let you do that, and if you try to argue otherwise your disillusion

Nope. I sure don't feel ripped off. I feel like this was worth the wait (and omg what a freakin' wait it was) and the money. I f'ng love this game (I also f'ng love FO3... still!)

I'll probably spend a few hundred hours with this game. 60 or even 80 dollars for a game that I can spend that kind of time with is very much worth it. Very much worth it.

[quote name='EFQ' date='28 October 2010 - 10:25 AM' timestamp='1288279557' post='16586044']
What? Did you not talk to anybody in goodsprings? They dont prod you to go north from there. You get told a few times to avoid that path, to go north, then east and loop around to get to Vegas.


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Misled by who? By somebody opinion from a board? And opinion is just that. Its not a fact.

I dont feel ripped off at all. Ive payed 60 dollars for games that I beat in a weekend. Ive barely made it to the strip in my 40 hours of play.
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trust me i want every where, half the rocks are plastered with invisable walls so paths are the only way to truely travel.

and misled by obsidian and the advertizments that told us how big and vast the world was and how much new content it had. the content isnt THAT much realy if you ask me, and the new content is at a cost of other content.

[quote name='bellabell' date='28 October 2010 - 10:37 AM' timestamp='1288280234' post='16586117']
Misled by who? By somebody opinion from a board? And opinion is just that. Its not a fact.

I dont feel ripped off at all. Ive payed 60 dollars for games that I beat in a weekend. Ive barely made it to the strip in my 40 hours of play.
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trust me i want every where, half the rocks are plastered with invisable walls so paths are the only way to truely travel.

and misled by obsidian and the advertizments that told us how big and vast the world was and how much new content it had. the content isnt THAT much realy if you ask me, and the new content is at a cost of other content.
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its just you...... I am 80 hours and still have much to do..................

ok, perhapse ripped off is too strong a word, it is a good game, but disapointed definatly? it is a game i could have waited for easily.

I do not feel ripped off.

I have been having a blast so far.
I love the way they did Mr. House, but I loved the movie "Melvin and Howard" too. A Movie about a kid who meets into Howard Hughes, no spoilers here for those who have not seen it.

As much as I may [censored] about things that bother me, I don't feel ripped off at all; I wish they spent more time creating original stuff instead of re-using sounds, textures, buildings, creatures, etc. but I've already spent more time with this game than most games I've bought, and I've literally just started. Of course, I'm not getting the game-stopping bugs most are getting, so I'm a little biased..

I think this game is the best value for money release in recent years. I've already clocked up more than 70 hours and nowhere near finished, there are map markers that people have put on my map that I haven't yet visited and I have about 15 open quests. For ￡30 that's pretty fantastic.

You were misled by an opinion? Do you know how they work?

The world is big and vast. It is filled with new content. At the cost of what content? Useless subway tunnels with nothing in them but a few ghouls and broken trains?

If you dont like the game, thats fine with me. But feeling ripped off because the game isnt what you expected to be is just silly. Obsidian didnt lie to you.

I ran into the same issue but I was just testing the game and ignoring the people. (Wanted to see how well/poorly New Vegas would be on my rig.) Once I started playing the game I felt rather silly with the warnings they give. :blush: Oh, and I seemed to have weaved my way between the "DO NOT ENTER", or "STOP, DANGER BEYOND" signs. I saw them in real play through afterwords.


I do not feel ripped off in the slightest. I was enjoying it so much I went and bought the PS3 version for my friend so we could enjoy, and discuss the game together. He's loving it as much as I. (Only 1 freeze/crash for him in over 40 hours of play.)

I find the atmosphere in NV is much more creepy. Some of the ambient sounds make me jump and turn really quickly thinking something is there. I don't remember getting that in F3 nearly as much.

I did have to do some tweaking to get it run optimally but I was expecting that as I've had to do it with all Gamebryo engine games from Bethesda. And I still went out and bought it the day it was released fully knowing I may have issues. There are not many companies I feel the need to support by buying games new (Been hitting the $20 bin a lot more than a year ago.) but TES/Fallout titles always get bought on day one. I know I am going to get the best $/content ratio from their titles.

That pretty much describes my game as well, though I did enter the Strip and complete the Ring a Ding Ding quest.

Exactly. Fallout 3 (And Oblivion), filler content at the sacrifice of quailty. If you look at real locations, instead of another tunnel with some food, NV easily has as much if not more, and its better content to boot. People gonna cry.

OMG no this is the best game ever! You make it what you want it to be by choosing the right options and allegiances! I love how you get to go downstream south of the dam and encounter the packs of deathclaws and water monsters.. then you get to revenge the intoxicated town that belonged to the NCR by taking down the whole dinairo horders in their own little town on the other side... combating Decanus 1 vs 1 then and elimanating the rest by yourself after wasting almost all of your ammo with the death claws. Then you discover little caves nearby that remind me of Everquest 2 zones (fiend caves). WOW! A lot more to explore! What should I do next before I go kill cruella on her dark mnt. tower? Go underground? DAMN! I'm going to take my laptop to work to show my coworker The Strip when I finally get there! He's going to trip! The graphics are intense! THE LATEST! It runs sooo smooth on ULTRA and a 1900sX resolution on my lappy~ I feel like I'm on the discovery channel website when I use the shooting-system. LMAO If Fallout is some sort of a subscription, sign me up! LOL

no but they certainly stretched the truth: example, they stated in one of their developers vid(dono which one) that the map was going to be much bigger than the fallout 3 map...thats all fine and good but if half the map is empty? why even put it there, just condense the damn thing and give it to us straight.

It's more realistic that half the map is empty seeing as how it's in a desert and takes place 204 years after the apocalypse.

Can't say that I feel "ripped off". New Vegas isn't a bad game. Still working on my first play through. Once that's done I'll put the game aside and wait for the bugs to be fixed. Then I 'll have a second look.