I think I read somewhere that only a chosen few can read an Elder scroll without becoming blind and CoC is one of them. I guess that makes him pretty special in a way.

I was about to say I would like the next game to make it so that you are not the hero and you help someone else save the world and then I read his comment about Oblivion and remembered that you weren't the hero Martin was haha.

I don't think the CoC is special that way. You have to actually comprehend an Elder Scroll to read it. Looking at the mass of scribbles is pretty safe.

What you are is left up to each player. But your miracle cure from Corprus was not luck.

Think that's overlooked a lot

It really is, but I like that idea I feel the you are the hero and save the world is over used in today's games. So Oblivion was a nice change and I wish they would play around with that idea a little more.

Sure it was. You just happened to show up as a possible Nerevarine candidate when Divayth Fyr had completed his latest potential corprus cure. If he had developed that sooner, it would have gone to one of the earlier fallen prospects you meet in the Cavern of the Incarnate. If it had been developed later, you'd be a hulking monstrosity stalking the bowels of the corprusarium. There's no event in the main quest that can't be explained by right place, right time.

u mean being an immortal guy that has a gift/curse that makes him immune to illness and age and is pretty much the number one guy in MW or the champion of cyrodil chosen of the nine and the one who saw Akatosh incarnite and then became a deadric god ....

sorry but in pretty much all TES your a big hero if u play the MQ its true in MW u were like not thrusted into the spot light and in OB that damn guy stool your fame by "sacrificing himself" pffffff yah whatever

anyone can read the elder scrolls, but, only those who dont comprehend it go blind (and even then, if they keep looking at the scrolls for awhile they will go blind, the blind moth priests read the scrolls untill they lose their eye-sight)


biiiiig hero, pfft, those are always boring to play as, being shoved into the center of attention? no thanks! i would much rather live my normal rogue life!

and, yes, you do always play as a "hero" in every TES game, those that have obscured destinies that not even the gods can foresee (they can appoint, they can guide, they can lead, but they will never know the true outcome of the story of a hero untill it's conclusion)

Nope, Dyvath Fyr says that the corprus cure he developed worked only on you. It killed all the other patients.

Otherwise there would have been a major medical discovery.

And really, your actions conforming exactly to prophecy, with the mutually antagonist and incredibly learned deities of Dagoth Ur, Azura and Vivec, not to mention the Emperor's hardnoses intelligence service, should leave no doubt that something supernatural is up.

I usually do avoid it, but this is the first time I've gotten into it. Maybe 1) it's just a bit more "immediate"/in your face than Morrowind. You're just kind of "suggested" the main quest there at first. Here dragons are attacking you right out of the gate. Oblivion's main quest was immediate too - except Oblivion's main quest was a nuisance to me as well. I didn't like Oblivion Gates. Dragons are annoying, but not that bad.

His previous attempts had all failed. That doesn't mean he just kept trying the same failed batch. It means you got the newest stuff, with all the tweaks and adjustments that come with that, and it happened to be the one that worked. You think he just arbitrarily was giving the same potion to everyone who came to him looking for a cure even though it only ever succeeded in killing them? That it's not a big deal outside this single instance only indicates that the ingredients are either too rare or the process too complicated to be effective on a widescale, or it's simply a matter of Beth not implementing a proper consequence to that event.

Your actions don't have to follow the prophecy, incidentally. There are backdoor methods to completing the main quest. That it's possible to follow the steps of the prophesy is irrelevant. Your ability to run errands for ashkans and duel great house leaders doesn't require any prophesy. It only requires you be capable. It's only proof that you did those things, not that they were required or that you couldn't have done them sans prophesy.

Dagoth Ur, Azura, Vivec, the ashlanders, the great houses, etc, all had skin in the game already. They have their own motives for playing along with the prophesy without needing the prophesy to be true. Dagoth Ur doesn't want anyone stopping his plans so he'll work against you simply because you're calling yourself (or others are) the Nerevarine. If you are or not is immaterial to him. You're still a threat. Azura wants the heart destroyed and the tribunal stripped of their godhood. That's why she cursed the dunmer in the first place. If you stand a chance of fulfilling that goal, no reason for her not to recruit you. Vivec originally has reason to oppose you, as the return of the Nerevarine bodes ill for the tribunal. Later you become a necessary component in his plan to defeat Dagoth Ur. None of their actions or responses to your actions require you to actually be the Nerevarine, only that they perceive you as capable of doing what the Nerevarine is fortold to do.

_{Just wondering... when either Hadvar or Ralolf tell you to split up... and you actually do and much later return to riverwood... does that change dialogues or anything?}

I din't feel I was unique in Morrowind or Oblivion, I was just someone, that someone thought was unique and therefore gave a task. I completed the Morrowind MQ using my own powers, which was only due to my race, birthsign and class. And I agree that Dilvyth Fyr just might have made his first working cure, when you meet him (he was the most powerful sorcerer in Morrowind, and I don't remember corprus disease in Oblivion or Skyrim).

In Skyrim you do have your shouts from being dragonborn, but the draugrs also has shouts, and I would guess they used to be normal nords.

People forget that you get a dream of Azura at the start of Morrowind where she states that she'll protect you... In Oblivion the emperor states multiple times that you're special...

Really everyone has the freedom to view this stuff one way or the other... I thought that every game has this "you're special-born" but I guess in Oblivion it's the most open.. but really Morrowind is mayby even less free on that part (In Morrowind you'll always have the dream which shows you the nerevarine prohecies you've never heard of before (so it can't be -just a dream-), in Skyrim you can simply walk away and never start the MQ)

This is only indicative of Azura's power and influence. In Skyrim, You're special in the sense that she's thrown her weight behind you, not necessarily in the sense that you're a reincarnated Dunmer hero. It's not like you're having visions of a past life or anything. You just have a god speaking to you through a dream.

all TES games have your character "save the world".

only Skyrim uses killing dragons as the way to save the world.

"Each event is preceded by Prophecy.
But without the hero, there is no Event."
-Zurin Arctus, the Underking

There is now a mod which stops you from absorbing dragon souls and learning shouts so your not a dragonborn. I'll post a link later.

Well...technically, yes xD

But no, in all seriousness, none of the previous titles were anything like Skyrim. They were similar in the respect that the story did in fact follow a dragonborn, who was referred to as such on several occasions, and yes, especially in Oblivion, the "dragon blood" played an important role from the very beginning.

So, I suppose, yes and no.

So it lets you kill dragons without absorbing souls, etc.? I can see that mod causing a lot of glitches.

If you think about it, that's what LOTR is like. Frodo is always touted as the hero, but if it wasn't for Sam, he would never have made it to Mt. DOom, and if it wasn't for Gollum, the ring would not have been destroyed.

I don't think this game necessarily pushes you into being a hero. That's still your choice. Some might be typical heroes, some complete sociopaths where you'd have to wonder why Akatosh blessed them to begin with, and some flawed/controversial type of heroes. The third might be the most common, even if people don't intend it. To compare TES lore, maybe someone like Pelinal.

I feel the same as OP. I sorta wish we were just an insignificant citizen with no grand destiny or special abilities. I have little to no interest in the main quest because of this.

Just go outside then.

What about your ability to wear Moon-and-Star? You know, the ring that instantly kills anybody who wears it that isn't Nerevar (and by extension, the Nerevarine).