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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:46 am

Well at least your ancestry lies in Black Marsh, so it would be appropriate to send your remains there.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:27 pm

If the Argonian, a lesser of Man and far lesser of Khajiit, is offended by his homeland, perhaps Argonian should hide his face and swim away in his own tears. J'rahzir would have thought the man quite considerate as this Khajiit would have fed the Argonian's remains to small Nord children.

This Khajiit can not help if Sugar is so sweet and Skooma chills and warms and shocks the bones and minds. Khajiit knows his kind were enslaved by the side of Argonians, yet the creatures know not the pleasures of being Khajiit. Though, Khajiit envies their scales, for when fur is wet, it freezes to the hide...

This made my day!
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:51 pm

If the guard knew you were not from Black Marsh, THAT would have been an immersion breaker. Only natural for anyone who doesn't know you to assume you were from your native region.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:27 am

"You picked a bad time to return to Skyrim, kinsman." I'll leave the kinsman part drop as a common Nord figure of speech and point out I could have been trying to leave Skyrim to get away from this civil war, thank you very much.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:25 pm

just go back to Black Marsh and stop complaining :biggrin:
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:39 pm

Because your country of origin is completely irrelevant to anything after the intro, and even in the intro apart from that one line. There's no way to justify the extra coding that would require.

And BTW, my khajiit was from Cyrodiil: "I've never even been to Elsweyr! Apart from my appearance i'm just as imperial as you!" is what she would've said.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:13 pm

And BTW, my khajiit was from Cyrodiil: "I've never even been to Elsweyr! Apart from my appearance i'm just as imperial as you!" is what she would've said.

Maybe you misheard - he said 'Elsewhere' ;)
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:54 pm

As far as I can work out, you're offended by something the game couldn't possibly know. If anything this has heightened your enjoyment of the game, purely for making you empathise with your characters racial upbringing.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:32 pm

does it really matter, son?
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:38 am

My Argonian is from Black Marsh, as I'm sure plenty of others are. I think it's a safer bet that to assume the character is from Black Marsh will please more players, especially as so many people wont bother creating a back-story and just assume that their chosen race, is from the background the game tells them.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:55 pm

Maybe you misheard - he said 'Elsewhere' :wink:

:lol: Maybe.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:50 pm

Well at least your ancestry lies in Black Marsh, so it would be appropriate to send your remains there.

This. I don't think it is because Hadvar thinks you were born in Black Marsh so much as he would think that you would want to be buried in your Homeland (and not necessarily your birthplace). Seems natural as, I don't know if it's lore, Nords seem to have more of an attachment to their Homeland (even if they support the Empire) via tradition, honor, etc... and would want to be buried in their Homeland even if they were born and died in another part of the Empire. Since Hadvar is a Nord I don't see it as being any type of insult or assumption, just something he would have wanted projected onto you.

This is all speculation of course, but with such an insignificant issue I think it fits just fine.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:01 pm

Uh, how is this an issue? Black Marsh is the ancesteral homeland of the Argonians, and is where most Argonians live in/have come from. So, logically, Hadvar would think your Argonian character is from Black Marsh, regardless of where he/she was actually born in.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:36 pm

At the end of the day if you were that offended by it you would've just stabbed him, right?
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:09 am

I am a British Chinese, do you know how many people presume I am from China? And how people make Kung Fu sound when they see me? You can't blame them cos they probably brought up from places where they could only see Chinese people from books.
Apologies. I lol'd
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:42 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Argonians have to lick sap off of a Hist tree when they are young in order to be capable of things like basic thought and walking on two legs? And since Hist only grow in Black Marsh, doesn't that mean that all Argonians would HAVE to have been born there?
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:04 pm

Uh, how is this an issue? Black Marsh is the ancesteral homeland of the Argonians, and is where most Argonians live in/have come from. So, logically, Hadvar would think your Argonian character is from Black Marsh, regardless of where he/she was actually born in.
That's not really the point, it's normal that a character would want to have his or her remains delivered back to where they call home, and in the OP's case, High Rock, not his or her's ancesteral home which could be a completely different place.

However, the assumption of the character's home from the captain's assistant is rather insignificant (subjective I know) that the developer did not bother to allow the player the choice to choose what to reply or say.

Apologies. I lol'd
No need to apologize mate, there are **** heads out there could make a fool of themselves no matter what race you are or what you look like.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Argonians have to lick sap off of a Hist tree when they are young in order to be capable of things like basic thought and walking on two legs? And since Hist only grow in Black Marsh, doesn't that mean that all Argonians would HAVE to have be born there?

Not sure about that piece of lore there, but what if you play a Nord but your character consider his home in High Rock? The compliant was that the developer did not offer the option for you to say where do you come from that has upset the OP.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:54 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Argonians have to lick sap off of a Hist tree when they are young in order to be capable of things like basic thought and walking on two legs? And since Hist only grow in Black Marsh, doesn't that mean that all Argonians would HAVE to have be born there?

Well typically Argonians partook in the Hist ritual on their naming day. It states that "Argonian appearance ranges from reptilian to almost human; this is decided by the amount of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Hist sap they ingest as hatchlings, which ceremonially takes place on their Naming Day."
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:22 pm

2x post
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:59 am

I'd be more concerned by the fact he wants your head on a block, reptilian shapeshifting fool.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:10 pm

This is what's known as "making a mountain out of a molehill". Blown way out of porportion.

Seems like lately (ok, more like months), people are going out of their way to find things to nit-pick about Skyrim. Granted, it's far from perfect, but if the game is really annoying you folks that much, why not just forget about it, and move on? Why put yourself through this crap if you no longer like the game? Don't get me wrong, it's no skin off my ass- do what you want. I'm just curious.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:31 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Argonians have to lick sap off of a Hist tree when they are young in order to be capable of things like basic thought and walking on two legs? And since Hist only grow in Black Marsh, doesn't that mean that all Argonians would HAVE to have been born there?

Good question.
It is unkown how far the symbiosis between the Hist and the Argonians goes, but safe money is on a deep connection.

We know that Argonians in Black Marsh lay eggs, but those who are far from the Hist and in more inhospitable places give live birth, presumably to give the offspring a better chance of survival in harsh surroundings.

(Mark Nelson:
Argonian egg-laying, again (11/10/03)
Never underestimate the adaptability of Argonians, or, more specifically, the power of the Hist to allow Argonians to adapt.
I wouldn't expect to hear an Argonian born in Skyrim (or on Solstheim, for that matter) mention being hatched. Nor would I expect to hear more transient Argonians (say, members of a small, nomadic tribe) speak about laying eggs. However, in warmer climates, in places with established, stable, and permanent communities, you would likely see a great number of eggs.)

Tavelling-New-Woman from Morrowind gave some insight into your question with her dialogue: "My parents told me not to lick the Hist tree until my Naming Day, so I did. My parents caught me and a boy from my nest in a soft-leaf patch right before the naming ceremony. I feared I'd get more of a licking from my parents than I gave the tree... So I ran as fast as I could through the swamp and into the rest of the kids waiting for their naming ceremony. Everyone had a good laugh and the name stuck."

This text indicates that it is not sentience that the Hist sap provides, but sixual maturity.

It is possibly I suppose that Argonians out of Black Marsh carry a supply of Hist sap for their ceremonies.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:42 am

Lol. I think our OP got more than he bargained for. He`s left the building!
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:07 am

Good question.
It is unkown how far the symbiosis between the Hist and the Argonians goes, but safe money is on a deep connection.

We know that Argonians in Black Marsh lay eggs, but those who are far from the Hist and in more inhospitable places give live birth, presumably to give the offspring a better chance of survival in harsh surroundings.

(Mark Nelson:
Argonian egg-laying, again (11/10/03)
Never underestimate the adaptability of Argonians, or, more specifically, the power of the Hist to allow Argonians to adapt.
I wouldn't expect to hear an Argonian born in Skyrim (or on Solstheim, for that matter) mention being hatched. Nor would I expect to hear more transient Argonians (say, members of a small, nomadic tribe) speak about laying eggs. However, in warmer climates, in places with established, stable, and permanent communities, you would likely see a great number of eggs.)

Tavelling-New-Woman from Morrowind gave some insight into your question with her dialogue: "My parents told me not to lick the Hist tree until my Naming Day, so I did. My parents caught me and a boy from my nest in a soft-leaf patch right before the naming ceremony. I feared I'd get more of a licking from my parents than I gave the tree... So I ran as fast as I could through the swamp and into the rest of the kids waiting for their naming ceremony. Everyone had a good laugh and the name stuck."

This text indicates that it is not sentience that the Hist sap provides, but sixual maturity.

It is possibly I suppose that Argonians out of Black Marsh carry a supply of Hist sap for their ceremonies.

Interesting, I never saw that connection.
I thought she sat in a leaf patch and licked a Hist together with that boy... :yuck:
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:40 am

My character was born in High rock but thanks for the assumption [censored]. My point behind is topic is that bethesda should allow us to choose where we were born, it doesn't have to be locked race to locked province, or it could be "Unknown" for anyone who was RP'ing the "I lost my memory" route. Anybody else support this idea?

to be perfectly honest your a prisoner why the heck would they care where you where born its logical that they assume you are from Blackmarsh. its not like you carry a national insurance number or some sort of ID around in TES like we do in our world.
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