by far as i know, every Dragonborn can wear the amulet of Kings, because he is an blessed from Akatosh :3
the septims could wear it because they where Dragonborns, any one should know that q-
but even with the amulet destroyed in Oblivion's mainquest, the Dovahkiin has a better claim that ANYONE to the Imperial Throne, he is just like the septims, A mortal with the soul of a Dragon, he has born to rule

an DLC of even the next TES about the Dovahkiin from Skyrim timeline (the player) claiming The Throne of Skyrim, or even the Imperial Throne would be the most amazing thing ever (and better yet if we could kick the Thalmor ass in the process )

I would rather they gave you a choice. I hate the Empire as much as I hate the Thalmor and I would burn them both to the ground given the option.

Alexia and Reman were dragonborm. The player is the first recognized Dragonborn of the 4th era so he could repeat the cycle and lay the foundations of the fourth empire. I was expecting the dlcs to revolve around this, especially considering that a good portion of the fanbase asked to ascend to greater position since Morrowind.

This whole "nameless hero" thing is good and fit both Morrowind and Oblivion role but in case of Skyrim's protagonist it would be a missed opportunity

The Amulet of Kings is gone, therefore the Pact is broken and the Dragonborn no longer have any claim of the throne.

I don't care about making a new empire. Tamriel doesn't need it. It's time for the provinces to learn to get along without having some dude in charge.

okay, i was arguing a different point, but you are still wrong. there is nothing about it that even suggest that a dovakiin is needed to use it, it is able to be worn by anyone chosen by akatosh to rule (and the dovakiin emperor, tiber, might not even be dovakiin)

p.s. neither of us is guarenteed right, unfit rulers have been chosen and there is nothing at all to suggst that any emperor was dovakiin (tiber? he trained with grey beards, that does not mean he is dovakin, all the others? they could not even shout, and considering dovakiin is not heriditary but an afliction where a soul is forced into the wrong body, it is unlikely that most, hell, even more than a few emperors were dovakiin)

and from where you take that?
the amulet is not "gone", its power are in that Akatosh "statue" in the imperial city, Martin sacrificed himself to the covenant not be broken, but fullfield forever :3
(if the covenant was broken Dagon would have conquered Tamriel and all the world q-)

They still need leaders. Maybe not just one, but a council of them. Free for all countries usually end-up against each other.

I still think Treng is right since that's exactly what happened in Oblivion.
Alessia made the pact with Akatosh, received the dragon blood, and had her soul taken into the amulet of kings. Her heirs wear it, and according to legend Reman Cyrodiil is born with it, his mother being the ghost of Alessia. It was at that time when the Amulet became a legitimate symbol of right to rule. During the Reman Dynasty, Talos was told by the Greybeards (led by the second born of Akatosh) that he would rule Tamriel. So Akatosh endorsed the Septims, and with his blessing (and dragon blood), went south to become emperor.
You now have that same dragon blood, known to be held only by royalty.

Also, Delphine is a lying, manipulative ***** when she says Tiber Septim wouldn't have founded the empire if he listened to the Greybeards.

Edit: Since it was kind of hard to prove Reman was born from a ghost, he probably started using the Amulet as sort of a blood test, to show he shared blood with Akatosh and was part of Alessia's family - that family being the only one blessed with Akatosh's blood. Tiber Septim wasn't related, but blessed separately.

ALL the emperors from the Septim dinasty where Dragonborns, it is hereditary, the others beyond Tiber Septim 1 just haven't been called to High Hrotghar (as far as we know in the lore)

The Septims where Dragonborn from the covenant with Akatosh that made them have the blood of the dragon and the Amulet of Kings was a symbol of that covenant.
The covenant is gone broke with the amulet sealing Dagons Deadlands forever.
A new covenant would have to be made. This case here is a special one in Skyrim.

I think there shouldnt be an emporer anymore but maybe a council like a democracy, thats a better way to go with all these proviinces.

One of the Uriels was called to High Hrothgar and could shout, but I don't remember which one. Feel free to pore through he wiki articles to figure which one.

dovakiin, like i said, is more of a divine affliction where yoru soul is mixed up with a body that it does not belong too (dragon soul is used to make a human), the septims dragonblood is something totally different


now that is something im sure e can all agree on

The Amulet requires the user to have dragonblood in his veins, we don't know if that is synonymous with being a dragonborn or not, but still, it runs through a line. We don't know if that blood is confined to a single line or not, so the Amulet very well may have been a Septim-only Amulet. Tiber was a full-fledged Dragonborn, the Greybeards said so, why would they lie and how would they know so much about the Dragonborn if he was not? Either way, the Amulet is destroyed and the Dragonborn has no claim of the throne, but is still a very good candidate because of the power and knowledge he possesses. Also, I'm sure citizens of the Empire would like a dragonblood emperor back on the throne.

As to why the couldn't shout, the emperors had no access to dragon souls at the time, and I doubt the Greybeards were willing to teach them to shout because there was no need to.

oh, yea, forgot the grey beards said tiber was dovakiin

Akatosh selects the Dragonborn, which in turn gives birth to a line of dragonblood possixrs, since the Dragonborn had both the soul of a dragon and blood. When the line dies out, he picks a new one.

I agree with this, we are not really sure about the blood lines.
Tiber was definitely full fledged dragon born.
The amulet is gone with little chance to it coming back.
This dragon born has the Soul of a dragon the dragon blood, so that might be a cause for the citizenry for wanting our dragonborn on the throne. People would rally behind us like you mentioned just because of our power.
I just hope in this game it never let's you become leader of the empire.

one thing about the whole Dovahkiin becoming emperor thing:
the Dovahkiin's NAME. every save is different. emperor's names are remembered. the whole "unnamed hero" part of the game wrecks the possibility. say my female altmer, Erissa, becomes Empress. i buy TES VI, the emperor could be a male Nord named Bob.

Martin sacrificed the Amulet, and with it, the Pact, to seal of Dagon from Nirn. Akatosh Pact required a dragonblood emperor to be on the throne at all times, but, the plane is still sealed shut, so it either used the pact to permanently seal the gate, or Akatosh is being really leniant.Akatosh has no love for man, since they are the reason he is bound to Nirn, he would not maintain the Pact if our side of the bargain was not being held.

Just for clarity's sake: the Dunmer Empress was Empress Katariah. There's a particular ship in Skyrim named after her ..,

actually there IS a council, the Elder Council that rule along with the Emperor, like a Constitutional Monarchy (for ex: UK, Japan, Canada, Australia and etc in modern days) but with the emperor having much more power, like the old empires, something like Emperor: 51% power, Elder Council: 49% power

tha could also be a theory. dovkiin may be possesed of both but i will holds doubts untill word of todd god or some in game books say something about it.

*my theory partly stems form what el barto said, there is no way we can be emperor since that would need a name, gender and race, so i doubt bethesda would give us claim to somethign so important (which is why i assume, and still think, dovakiin does not mean you also get dragon blood)

I believe Paarthunax has said that you possess the blood of a dragon. Also, disregard that, that's an in-game mechanic the we can't bypass, this a discussion of lore.

As for Katariah. She was married to Pelagius III, and she replaced him until her son was fit to rule.

actually, since our dovakiin will go down in lore aswell, no name and all, if he had dragon blood then he would be brought up multiple times since he would be the heir to the throne

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not to mention paar could be talking about your soul instead of your blood since i doubt the distiction would matter much in a situation like that, especially to immortal beings(or, since tamrielic is not his first language, he could even be misunderstanding what he says, buti highly doubt that one)