Bethesda: Misleading Advertising - What we see should be wha

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:34 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic6dKnv3WdU biggest lying [censored] ever existed..

Just look what he sais, and also, have ANYONE seen a dragon pick somebody up like in this gameplay trailer?

Yes quite a few times .
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:46 pm

My PC's 5760x1080 resolution while playing this game count? I hope it does, its certainly better then the sub 720p that the filthy console users suffer with.

/how do you kill that which has no life?

From ripping... the consoles are running even at 720p...

From my real source resolution without upscaling that is occuring.. it is closer to that of a 520p/540p resolution which is then upscaled using basically a post processed effect to "blur" the edges making it look like FSAA is being applied so it looks better when running 720p.. after that.. anyone with their console set to 1080p, is just getting a resampling and not real resolution again.

Consoles that are going on 6-7 years old... barely had the power to drive games at even that time at 720p without "faking it"...
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:11 am

Did he just said Sabotage this WoodMill at 5:25 and how you manage to do that? also i never seen that red wolf attack me... but i do have seen Dragons Pick up people like that, even the Player.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:24 pm

From ripping... the consoles are running even at 720p...

From my real source resolution without upscaling that is occuring.. it is closer to that of a 520p/540p resolution which is then upscaled using basically a post processed effect to "blur" the edges making it look like FSAA is being applied so it looks better when running 720p.. after that.. anyone with their console set to 1080p, is just getting a resampling and not real resolution again.

Consoles that are going on 6-7 years old... barely had the power to drive games at even that time at 720p without "faking it"...
Indeed, first time I really became aware of those sorts of dirty tricks they're using to prop up those things was how GTA4 & then RDR suffer from the same constraints and rely on the same sorts of tricks.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:13 am

Actually that's pretty much every game out there i've noticed in adverting.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:56 pm

They should have put the 'Fus ro da' shout from the trailer to replace the 'Fus.... Ro da' Ins?de the game now.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:26 pm

Yes quite a few times .


Considering the number of dragons I've dealt with and how many times I've watched dragons attack npcs in wide open places.. I've have NEVER seen a dragon drag anyone off into the sky
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:29 am

Voice acting is a weird thing, they honestly may not have the rights to use that as an in game asset. Or only have the rights to use it in a music score etc.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:31 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic6dKnv3WdU biggest lying [censored] ever existed..

Just look what he sais, and also, have ANYONE seen a dragon pick somebody up like in this gameplay trailer?
I just watched the video again. Apart from mentioning sabotaging the lumber mill, I see nothing there that's not in the release.


Considering the number of dragons I've dealt with and how many times I've watched dragons attack npcs in wide open places.. I've have NEVER seen a dragon drag anyone off into the sky
Well it's in the game. A dragon has thrown a giant into the air in my game, and has also thrown me in the air, killing me in the process. It's in it.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:48 pm

I just watched the video again. Apart from mentioning sabotaging the lumber mill, I see nothing there that's not in the release.

almost nothing from the gameplay trailer has ever happend to me..
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:24 pm

almost nothing from the gameplay trailer has ever happend to me..
Like what exactly? The trailer shows running, animation, guardian stones, creature attacks, Riverwood, NPCs, riding a horse, a dragon, bandits, combat, draugr, shouts, magic and giants. All those are in the game for me.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:45 pm

This trailer was totally misleading: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiWX8X9sFy0

The textures aren't nearly as good, and you can see tons of animations that were left out of the game. I don't even want my money back, I am just going to sue Bethesda's pants off for misleading advertising.


Yes, I want their pants. All of them.


It would be nice if i could get Todd Howard to sign his first though.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:07 am

This trailer was totally misleading: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiWX8X9sFy0

The textures aren't nearly as good, and you can see tons of animations that were left out of the game. I don't even want my money back, I am just going to sue Bethesda's pants off for misleading advertising.


Yes, I want their pants. All of them.


It would be nice if i could get Todd Howard to sign his first though.
You're going to "sue" a company because the trailer doesn't represent accurate gameplay?

Grow up.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:28 pm

This trailer was totally misleading: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiWX8X9sFy0

The textures aren't nearly as good, and you can see tons of animations that were left out of the game. I don't even want my money back, I am just going to sue Bethesda's pants off for misleading advertising.


Yes, I want their pants. All of them.


It would be nice if i could get Todd Howard to sign his first though.


First your totally wrong, second im going to laugh at you, the same as any judge would if you brought this up in court. Hahahah Third, Bethesda employee's all wear "Robes of the Council" while on the job so there are no pants to be had.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:58 pm

Well I was trying to mock the other pointless complaints in this thread but it appears that I have turned into a troll instead.

woops

Edit: Did you even watch the link? :lol:
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:24 pm

Well I was trying to mock the other pointless complaints in this thread but it appears that I have turned into a troll instead.

woops

Edit: Did you even watch the link? :lol:


I'm afraid I'm on my phone so I couldn't watch it. I just assumed it was the trailer and you were having a go. My apologies :laugh:
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:49 pm

I used to go around suing people for dressing up what they were selling, then I took a kick from some girl wearing makeup in the knee.

/yes, the eggnog is quite tasty! :tongue:
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:32 am

they spent million of dollars creating this game, i can't believe they didn't maked an animation for soul absortion it's just unbelievable.
(same with water textures really - thanks God the modder community is great)
They did, but they didnt use it. I would personally be very annoyed if my character stopped to do some silly animation as he absorbed a soul. And I think that was Bethesda's thinking as well.


DX11 false advertising, 4 cores false advertising, high resolutions on pc false advertising, greatly improved animations false advertising... but you know what pisses me off more than all those things i mentioned? Fus Ro Da! i want Fus Ro Da from the damn TRAILER not the puny actual version!
They said DX11 was just for some minor oprimization features, nothing more. No fancy DX11 effects at all.

PC version is able to use the full texture resolutions. Consoles have them cut down for performance.

The animations are 100x better then before. They may not be the best, but they are way better. And for that I am perfectly happy.

What are you talking about with Fus Ro Dah? The only difference you could make out in the trailer from normal gameplay is there is a pause between Fus and Ro. But me thinks this was done so you could shout just the first word if you didnt want the full shout. Just tap the button or key and it would do the first word.


and yes i play on PC and fortunatly the modder community is much more skilled than beth texture department. (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=711 just an example)
Ignorance...

Bethesda artists can do much better quality, but they have to scale things back for performance reasons. Consoles only have 512MB of memory, so they need to balance the game's model quality and texture quality with the engine resources so they can have as smooth gameplay as possible. Though they failed this on PS3.

If bethesda wanted to make the most graphically amazing game in the world, without worrying about any form of restrictions, then they could. Any game developer could. This is why Crysis 1 was never on consoles. It was made to be graphically amazing for its time because it was an engine demo. Enter Crysis 2 and notice it is no longer as graphically amazing as its older brother, because they had to tone things way back for consoles. The reasons why no MMO has crysis quality graphics dispide 99% of them being on PC is because they have to tone back the graphics for older computers.

My point is simply that consoles are indeed holding back the graphical advancement of modern games.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:24 pm

@Echonite: Yes, they said that we won't get any graphical features of DX11, but they said we would get at least performance optimization through DX11 but we didn't even get this. There is no DX11 at all.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:17 pm

@Echonite: Yes, they said that we won't get any graphical features of DX11, but they said we would get at least performance optimization through DX11 but we didn't even get this. There is no DX11 at all.

And yet I have a DX11 folder in my Skyrim directory?
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:32 am

They did, but they didnt use it. I would personally be very annoyed if my character stopped to do some silly animation as he absorbed a soul. And I think that was Bethesda's thinking as well.



They said DX11 was just for some minor oprimization features, nothing more. No fancy DX11 effects at all.

PC version is able to use the full texture resolutions. Consoles have them cut down for performance.

The animations are 100x better then before. They may not be the best, but they are way better. And for that I am perfectly happy.

What are you talking about with Fus Ro Dah? The only difference you could make out in the trailer from normal gameplay is there is a pause between Fus and Ro. But me thinks this was done so you could shout just the first word if you didnt want the full shout. Just tap the button or key and it would do the first word.



Ignorance...

Bethesda artists can do much better quality, but they have to scale things back for performance reasons. Consoles only have 512MB of memory, so they need to balance the game's model quality and texture quality with the engine resources so they can have as smooth gameplay as possible. Though they failed this on PS3.

If bethesda wanted to make the most graphically amazing game in the world, without worrying about any form of restrictions, then they could. Any game developer could. This is why Crysis 1 was never on consoles. It was made to be graphically amazing for its time because it was an engine demo. Enter Crysis 2 and notice it is no longer as graphically amazing as its older brother, because they had to tone things way back for consoles. The reasons why no MMO has crysis quality graphics dispide 99% of them being on PC is because they have to tone back the graphics for older computers.

My point is simply that consoles are indeed holding back the graphical advancement of modern games.

Lame excuse... seeing how the PC is so much powerfull than consoles and how fast it took a group of 5 people (a month or less) who you seem to call "amateurs" to create true high resolution textures while Pro Bethesda just got lazy.

Did you actually read the link to the two interviews? Todd Howard by his OWN WORDS said that DX11 has limited support (LIE), and that they will do a DX11 Patch in the future (Who knows on this one but lets be real... naah not going to happend), HE DID SAID IT... no one is stating any false accusations and that is what i call a LIE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEd1D-KD5xc
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:03 pm

And yet I have a DX11 folder in my Skyrim directory?

Please show me a screenshot.

In my Skyrim folder I only can see a DirectX10(!) folder...
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:06 pm

And yet I have a DX11 folder in my Skyrim directory?

Its a DX9 install with few libraries for DX10, not that it is using DX10 at all... Skyrim only uses DX9.0c.


Oh and in the ReadMe.txt they say you need 4Gb in the Recommended System Specs... guess what? 4Gb was only supported in 1.3.10... and that is because everyone was btching about it, otherwise they would have just ignored it.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:01 am

Please show me a screenshot.

In my Skyrim folder I only can see a DirectX10(!) folder...

Sorry, you are right. I was going from memory, which at my age isn't that good.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:52 pm

Who cares ... /end thread.
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