A bunch of people, you know where the exit is.

It should be illegal. Just look at how many people are having a fuss over the Photoshopped beauty product ads. You should only be allowed to advertise exactly what you're selling, in the exact state of which you're selling it, otherwise you're just showing off a completely different product and trying to get idiots to purchase the one you're selling with reckless abandon.

Oh ok.. so your saying they put animations in the demo as placeholders... to replace what exactly? a placeholder animation to replace no animation? you dont make sense

I am ok with the animations, what pisses me off is they promised DX11 optimizations and 4 cores support, just try disabling 2 cores in Task Manager and see how much fps you lose... "0", tried already in 3 PC′s... it is obvious the game does not use 4 cores at all.

Oh, but it is! The point is that the videogames industry can get away with this and nobody is going to sue a company for a 60$/€ videogame.

This.

How about the cumulating snow , more people at the same time , alive cities ,nature life around , radiant ai where each npc has story home andcycle ? ..... Also i see much more animations in the dragon fight sequence like woundenness , tiringness and ansimation , offbalancing etc... Surely the trailer looked more epic and they reduced dragons to an averpresent spawn like cliffracers in morrowind .... Few and strong us cool but many and weack is poor ...

A lot of game devs are big marketing lairs now days, Crytek, Epic Games, EA all BS about their games and tech. Crytek recently said that Crysis 1 on the consoles looks better than the PC version from 2007. We know they said that for marketing reasons because Crytek would be admitting their Cryengine 2 looks better than Cryengine 3.

At least John Carmack admitted that basing RAGE on consoles was a big mistake and for me he is the only person with even a bit of credibility left in the gaming industry. These people lie for marketing reasons and because they can get away with it because the mass market don't care.

The kill animations are really bad game design though. I was healing myself when a dragon managed to trigger a kill animation against me through a small wall I just jumped behind. As it picked me up I could see my health continue to increase from the spell, reaching about 90% before my character died instantly as the kill animation finished. No way any dragon attack would oneshot me from 90%, and a non-kill cutscene attack would have missed anyway due to my character being out of reach when the attack finished.

Also, the controls may freeze for a long time if you would get a kill animation but there's no path between the characters (which can happen when attacking something in a cage).

In many situations the game's CPU load is more consistent with a nearly single-threaded but D3D call-heavy program, really. Because 3D API calls are asynchronous, the driver can run in the background processing the data it's been sent, and so even a completely "single-threaded" D3D or OpenGL program will appear to put heavy load on two cores.

This isn't very surprising in the GPU-limited indoor areas, but on most systems the game could easily afford to have one core handling saving games or preloading when you approach doors to eliminate most loading screens like Witcher 2 did.

The game might run just fine on a single core most of the time if it wasn't so full of unoptimized code (like the stuff TESVAL fixes to some degree) and the level design wasn't so inconsistent with rendering complexity.

Misleading advertising is everywhere. From laundry detergents to cosmetics to video games to food to misc. stuff.

It's you who is fooled by expecting the same show as on the trailer. It's never the same, that's why it's called a trailer, not a gameplay video. I don't go inside a McDonalds (almost ever, but when i do) i don't expect a cheeseburger being the same as on the picture. Nor do i expect my laundry detergent to be able to clean off all stains.

If you are talking about advertising in general, i agree, it should be what we see is what we get. But there is no point in saying Bethesda doesn't deliver if no one else does either, it's a general problem that does not really belong on this subtype of forums.

So... you should also get Todd's godmode then? Sorry, but your logic fails OP. Some things are just for show. Also, some things get changed during the development, so what you see is not what you get anyway.

Yeah, like in reality the game is running on a PC not the XBox. Crytek did this with Crysis 2 but used Xbox360 joypads making use think it was the Xbox360 version. It wouldn't surprise me if that where the case with Skyrim because the PC version looks much, much shaper.

Also, the ads where probably done in the editor so it was the PC version you were seeing.

The videos leading up to the release of Team Fortress 2 had all kinds of animations for the characters, like little movies. They weren't in the final game....

Edit: And portal 2 co op. I don't remember being able to do forward flips as a robot in the game, but hey ho, there they were in the trailers.

Now that you mentioned, i remember something about snow accumulating in the land by time... i do remember this early in 2011 in some interview... now there is another FALSE ADVERTISING.

Anyone recall more lies from Bethesda?

Still... Skyrim is the best damn RPG i have ever played.

Every now and then, a wise man enters the room

False advertising always svcks and at least in the country I live in it can have serious repercussion for the advertising party (in areas like food,technical/medical stuff etc.). The most misleading trailers in my book this year were from Dead Island and Dragon Age 2 two games I had pre-ordered which deeply failed for me. The Dead Island trailers kind of suggested a more survival based game with deeper RPG elements and well Dragon Age2 just compare the fight against the Arishok from the trailer and actually ingame not even the location fits, let alone the epicness the trailer suggests and the magic Hawke is utilizing...

Yup. Agreed. Bethesda and Bioware have very poor ethics... their failures are born of their inability... like all failure... anyway, something to consider going forward. The least people can do is be educated.

Tod said Skyrim has a new engine, which is a bare faced lie as well. Game Software companies can get away with saying anything to sell their game now days, especially as their audience is bigger and knows nothing as to how the game works and the tech behind it. the PC community know better and take what they say with a pinch of salt.

When I see a bud light commercial, all the guys are surrounded by hot women. Do I get pissed off because I don't get hot women because I drink bud light? No. It's advertising. There's a live action commercial for the game too. Can't wait to see the thread for that next.

Have you seen the trailers for the Old Republic? THAT is false advertising.

OP, you're so right! Blast this misleading advertising! I want my blonde and busty barmaids back!

2011 gaming community: complain about everything

The trailer is pretty close to the game, the only "fake" stuff being the soul absortion animation, the "don't fall" animation and the "lay down animation". You should watch the advertising of Oblivion on the E3, THOSE were lies.

Yup.

this whiner is really scraping the barrel.