Bethesda.... : V

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:38 pm

"When" Bethesda has fixed some of the many bugs/glitches in the game, they should give us Free DLC. Just what some of the players have been through and proof that they haven't spend 60 dollars/euros to a game thats full of bugs/glitches.

Tell me your opinion.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:10 am

full of bugs/glitches.

1. Why you want DLC with a game supposedly full of bugs and glitches?
B. They don't owe us anything, after the sale they don't even have to patch it, they do it out of the kindness of their hearts.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:35 am

1. Why you want DLC with a game supposedly full of bugs and glitches?
B. They don't owe us anything, after the sale they don't even have to patch it, they do it out of the kindness of their hearts.

Horse: Also because it's good for bussines, or rather incredibly bad for bussines if they wouldn't patch a bugged game.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:22 am

Game is worth double the price, actually, so...

No.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:57 pm

B. They don't owe us anything, after the sale they don't even have to patch it, they do it out of the kindness of their hearts.

Actually, they patch it because it's good business to do so. If they ignored the game breaking glitches, and there are many in PS3, they will lose those customers in the future.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:46 pm

Horse: Also because it's good for bussines, or rather incredibly bad for bussines if they wouldn't patch a bugged game.

It'd be bad for business if they were just starting out as a company. Not now, because there are still people who will buy their products even if they're buggy.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:17 pm

1. Why you want DLC with a game supposedly full of bugs and glitches?
B. They don't owe us anything, after the sale they don't even have to patch it, they do it out of the kindness of their hearts.

I think the Op's post is absurd however yours is almost as nutty. It's expected for software companies to support their product after it hits the market with patches, and the market place would crush Bethesda if they didn't do it. The only reason Bethesda is given a pass, by most, on the fairly numerous bugs is because we know they'll patch it.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:40 pm

It's expected for software companies to support their product

Expected, not required.

See CoD4 era Infinity Ward.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:04 am

everyone wants stuff for free, but its not like you can just give it to people, I've worked at a bar for a few years, and sometimes people ask me to recommend a wine or something, and it does happen every now and then that they dont like what they get. what happens? do they get a new one for free? not really, they get to buy a new one if they want to, but when it comes to the one they already said they wanted and opened, its theirs, too bad, better luck next time.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:05 am

Not now, because there are still people who will buy their products even if they're buggy.

its bad for business no matter how old or succesful the company is.

you need to keep up customer relations it is amazing how many old and new players alike leave if there beloved franchise(s) get less and less attention.

Blizzard is a great example of this, they where still patching DiabloII untill recently and thats and old, old game one of the many reasons people still play (played) it was because it was getting attention.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:00 am

Expected, not required.

See CoD4 era Infinity Ward.

Yes and the market place will punish companies that don't support their products. Of course it's not required by some law, but based on the market place it essentially is something a company has to do for long term success.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:28 am

Yes and the market place will punish companies that don't support their products. Of course it's not required by some law, but based on the market place it essentially is something a company has to do for long term success.

Really? Because Infinity Ward/ Activision are still rolling in the dough like there's no tomorrow.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:26 am

1. Why you want DLC with a game supposedly full of bugs and glitches?
B. They don't owe us anything, after the sale they don't even have to patch it, they do it out of the kindness of their hearts.

Kindness has nothing to do with it, disparagement of future sales does.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:04 pm

Kindness has nothing to do with it, disparagement of future sales does.

If they honestly cared about future sales, don't you think they would have released a non-super bugged game at release?

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:36 pm

Really? Because Infinity Ward/ Activision are still rolling in the dough like there's no tomorrow.

People are obviously still satisfied with the product. With the amount of bugs in Skyrim At release if Beth had just released it and said that's it me and many others would never buy another Beth game.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:11 pm

I think the Op's post is absurd however yours is almost as nutty. It's expected for software companies to support their product after it hits the market with patches, and the market place would crush Bethesda if they didn't do it. The only reason Bethesda is given a pass, by most, on the fairly numerous bugs is because we know they'll patch it.

Tell that to Atari after they released Test Drive Unlimited 2. They gave us one crappy patch that broke the game more. Then proceded to get the Mods to lie for them to a point half of them quit the forums and then basically told the players tough s**t, we aren't making anymore patches. On top of the fact there were hundreds of hackers in the game messing it up more and Atari did nothing about it. That is good business....lol

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:19 am

People are obviously still satisfied with the product.

As they are with Skyrim.

There are Casual players who don't even know whats a Game patch is. They can honestly just think its all part of the game.

So, people are obviously still satisfied with Skyrim, despite flaws.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:15 am

Well I payed in pounds-stirling and have had little-to-no issues or bugs

. The only reoccuring bug is the Dragon seleton falling out of the sky.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:14 am

Yeah, that won't happen.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:17 am

If they honestly cared about future sales, don't you think they would have released a non-super bugged game at release?

Its hard reconciling this with what I said, I admit it. But just how suicidal can this company be? However, I don't believe this was an intentional move by Bethesda - its far more likely their shoddy quality testing department screwed up or got lazy. I just can't believe that stupid 11-11-11 release date would have forced them to release a game with so many broken quests and mechanics.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:16 pm

If they honestly cared about future sales, don't you think they would have released a non-super bugged game at release?

super bugged? I dont really see that many bugs compared to other sandbox games.

if anything things have been getting a lot better, and with patches still coming in its shaping up nicely.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:42 am

Its hard reconciling this with what I said, I admit it. But just how suicidal can this company be? However, I don't believe this was an intentional move by Bethesda - its far more likely their shoddy quality testing department screwed up or got lazy. I just can't believe that stupid 11-11-11 release date would have forced them to release a game with so many broken quests and mechanics.

My conversation hasn't been about Bethesda, it's been about all/any companies. Bethesda is a company who obviously want to patch their game and make people happy. I was just saying they didnt HAVE to.

Oh, and their obsession with 11/11/11 was awful. I and many others would have rather gotten a semi-bugless (All games will inevitably have problems) game than have a cool date to purchase it on.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:36 am

super bugged? I dont really see that many bugs compared to other sandbox games.

if anything things have been getting a lot better, and with patches still coming in its shaping up nicely.

At release.

At release, I'd almost say it was on-par with FO:NV.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:38 pm

If they honestly cared about future sales, don't you think they would have released a non-super bugged game at release?

limited amount of internal and external testers compare that to the player base....

hundreds of thousands of different system specs/speeds/processors/cards to test them all one, people doing things that are not intended (could cause bugs) things done in a certain order may cause a bug while another way doesnt.

it's impossible to completley test a game of this size and have it bug-free when you buy open-world RPG's expect bugs, if you expect it to be perfect you wont be happy.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:55 am

limited amount of internal and external testers compare that to the player base....

hundreds of thousands of different system specs/speeds/processors/cards to test them all one, people doing things that are not intended (could cause bugs) things done in a certain order may cause a bug while another way doesnt.

it's impossible to completley test a game of this size and have it bug-free when you buy open-world RPG's expect bugs, if you expect it to be perfect you wont be happy.

Never said bug free. I think if they had pushed the date back, it would have been a lot better at launch, though.