On my Bosmer char, im going to do civil war, so what side would a Bosmer support from a lore point of view?

Well, that depends, but I believe a Bosmer would be more likely to join the Empire than the Stormcloaks.

I would say stormcloaks. "Bosmer rejected the stiff, formal traditions of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Aldmer high culture, preferring a more romantic, simple existence in harmony with the land, its wild beauty and wild creatures."

Since the empire has made a truce with the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Aldmeri_Dominion and they (The High elves) try to emulate Aldmeri high culture.

I thought that the aldmeri Deminion was composed of Altmer AND Bosmir? Or the first aldmeri dominion was at least when the elves were being heavily persecuted in valynwood a very long time ago (game time)

Bosmer are a part of the Aldemeri Deminion, but they werent realy given a choice on the mather as i understand it (Kinda secondary citizens, maybe even enslaved, but im not sure, im no Lore expert).

Depends on your character. If you have problems with Thalmor or hate against them joining in Stormcloaks is obvious. If you are on side of Thalmor or have not anykind of relations with them you should sing in the Imperial legion.

Not quite. If the character holds with the Thalmor he should avoind the CW all together. We know for a fact that the Thalmor do not want an end to the war at all.

Joining the empire does not mean you support the Thalmor.

Edit; Bah, reading comprehension fail

Thalmor hate both sides, they just act friendly friendly to gain trust so they can deceive one another, they have tried to make Ulfric into a more willing puppet and the Empire already has plans to do a sneak attack on the dominion

Yes of course but as far as I understand this topic it's certain that the bosmer we are talking about will take a part in the civil war.

Well Ulfric is not a puppet. He is preparing to face his real enemy, the Thalmor, as soon as he and his Stormcloaks have took care with the Thalmor puppets called the Empire.

I think the Bosmer would be more willing to join the Legion then a group that would look passed the secondary citizen status and still kill them because they are elves and officially members of the Dominion.



Er, yea thats all fine and great if it wasn't for the fact that the empire isn't a puppet, thats stormcloak propaganda and theres no real signs in-game or in lore to support the claim that the empire is a puppet of the Dominion. Ulfric actually had been motivated to launch the stormcloak rebellion by a Thalmor interrogator who filled his head with lies, told him the empire abandoned him and that the empire planned on wiping out Nord culture and religion completely, which is far from the truth, I really suggest you do the mainquest and read his dossier in the Thalmor embassy or at least look it up.

I would presume most Bosmer hates the Thalmor, since the Dominion hasn't exactly been nice and gentle with people opposing them in Valenwood, and that the hate for the Thalmor would be the main reason for him/her joining the war.

This means he/she could choose any side, since neither side likes the Thalmor. The Stormcloaks outright hate them and see them as enemies, the Empire might be cooperating with them for the moment, but unwillingly, and might have a better chance fighting them in the future (if Ulfric can't get himself some allies).

I would ask myself if this bosmer wants result NOW (then go with the 'Cloaks), or can patiently tolerate the Thalmor for a while before fighting them. I would also ask myself what the character thinks about the front figures in the war and take that in consideration.

No but if you are against the Thalmor you shouldn't be working with the Empire but you could work with the Stormcloaks.

Why should an individual who is against the Thalmor not work for the Empire. Both groups are in opposition to the Thalmor, the Empire perhaps more so than the Stormcloaks are even right now. It can't really be used as a picking point between the two, IMO.

Yes this is the more likely option. But if he hates Thalmor he would never join in the legion which is nothing more than an army of a big Thalmor puppet.

Seeing as a Thalmor Dossier says an Imperial victory will hurt the Thalmors situation in Skyrim I cannot agree with you there.

Again there is no truth to that statement and without actual proof its nothing but propaganda.

Wow this is turning into a flame war xD, Imperial Legion vs Stormcloaks.

Tullius is antithalmor and leader of the imperial forces. The empire keeps a friendly public relations image, but hates the thalmor since the thalmor are pretty much oppressing them or atleast in the process of trying to.

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I look at it this way, if the side you joined with one day moved to liberate valenwood who would you rather have? I figure the stormcloaks would be the ones more inclided to just killing everyone where the imperials would be trying to gather allies from the locals. Remember from past wars the nords fought, they are not to great at distinguishing friend from foe.


Happens alot from what I've seen.

The Empire isn't against the Thalmor - they are working with Thalmor. And anyway if it engages to war with the Empire and Thalmor, the Empire would not even have a chance because they have allowed Thalmor to have forts and troops all over the Empire. Stormcloaks are the real enemy of Thalmor and so anyone who hates Thalmor should be with them.

Really depends on where you've decided your Bosmer hails from. Politically, Valenwood and Alinor (Summerset Isles) make up the Aldmeri Dominion alliance. The Aldmeri Dominion considers the worship of Talos to be wrong and their agents, the Thalmor, hunt the worshippers of Talos wherever they may be. If you're a Bosmer hailing from Valenwood and are loyal to the Dominion, then I'd have a hard time picturing you siding with the Talos-loving Stormcloaks.

However, Bosmer are all over Tamriel, so you could easily be from a family who has lived anywhere for generations and have a completely different political background. It's all up to you.

Still a bosmer would more likely join the Legion then the stormcloaks because the Legion has always appeared friendly to those of all races where as the stormcloaks...have kinda made it known that they hate all elves.


No actually they haven't the only thing they've allowed is an embassy and a prison, there are no Thalmor forts anywhere else in the empire.

No pretty sure that means nothing. The empire had forts in summerset isle and we seen how that turned out.

Honestly I think you have missed a large part of the political situation in Tamriel. The Empire is not working for the Thalmor, they are dragging their feet at best when it comes to upholding their part of the WGC. There are also things that imply that they are preparing to fight the Thalmor(General Tullius and Legate Rikke both implies this). To say the Empire is a puppet of the Thalmor is, at the end of the day, false. They have a peace treaty that is more beneficial to the Dominion, that is all.