Consoles are holding back gaming : V - Skyrim

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:27 am

I solved your problems go buy a gaming pc

You seem to miss the whole point that they simply don't want to.

Just like you don't want a console.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:03 am

Flame shield, anyone? :ermm:

They took that out when they dumbed it down to run on the PS3 /trollface.jpg

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:15 am

Yeah, but if consoles released 20 years ago were able to run some incredibly high quality games, then consoles nowadays can as well.

There's plenty of games that a console could never run, that PCs can. And its not even about graphics, its because the games are so damn big. Lets see a TW game on consoles. And 20 years ago, they had similer limitations. Theres games that ran on the Commodore 64 that would make an NES die if it tried to run it. And Ive owned both consoles and computers since the 80s, so no bias, or elitism here.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:48 pm

The PC version has sold more units than the 360 version. Just saying.

And that's suppose to mean what exactly? Just because a version sold more then the other, doesn't mean jack. The fact is that consoles DID sell is what counts. If people are going to go through life based on what numbers and other people tell you is best, your not living the way you want, your living the way other people want you to live. Point being, play on what you want and f those who don't like it.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:56 pm

It's PC elitism. Don't worry about the opinions of people like him. It's just a superiority complex.

I've only had a gaming PC 2 months, I'm no elitist. I'm intelligent enoughto see pc is far superior and Consoles svck

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:16 am

The next gen consoles are going to cost €600. My €700 pc runs Bf3 on Ultra at 60fps.

I can't stop laughing at how outlandishly wrong you are. Consoles costing more than €400 (~$500USD) would never appeal to the mass market.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:41 pm

I'm going to lock this now.
I hoped console players were smart enough to see logic but I was wrong

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:16 pm

You can use your tv for the pc
Their are PC controllers
Pc has more then mods and if it wasn't for consoles the games would be 10x better
I solved your problems go buy a gaming pc

Apparently your not seeing my point. I HAVE a gaming PC. Do I want to play ETS on it? NO. Do I want to hook my PC to my T.V? NO.

Since you seem a bit slow..I like playing ETS on my Xbox 360 and that will not change.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:39 pm

that is just BS. i posted a link to the top five video games for the PC and for the xbox 360 and the PC games sold more than the xbox games. one of the xbox "games" was the title that you get with the kinect which is a forced purchase. one of the reps from steam said that at any given time 10% of STEAM users are on at a time and since its usually between 2 and 3 million online that means between 20 and 30 million users and this is at 1 am in the morning when lots of people are in bed. if STEAM sales were included with PC game sales they would infact equal or beat xbox sales easily. people also forget about the millions of people that pirate games as well which while its possible on the xbox its more likely that a PC gamer will do it. if they ever figure out a system that is very hard to beat then you can add those people to PC sales as well.

@stee, vo. far cry 2 was a completely open world game release back in 2008 and it looks lightyears better than skyrim. it ran as smooth as butter on my system and had much better foliage, shadows etc. they designed it for the PC and then a seperate version for the console and it showed. skryim looks like crap compared to many PC centric games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7_M5sZhayU

Sorry, but you're 56,643% wrong. Skyrim PC sales only accont for little more than a fifth of total sales.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:04 pm

And that's suppose to mean what exactly? Just because a version sold more then the other, doesn't mean jack. The fact is that consoles DID sell is what counts. If people are going to go through life based on what numbers and other people tell you is best, your not living the way you want, your living the way other people want you to live. Point being, play on what you want and f those who don't like it.

It was a reply to the users saying the game wouldn't have been made if it wasn't on console due to sales. While i agree i thought it was a point worth making.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:23 pm

I can't stop laughing at how outlandishly wrong you are. Consoles costing more than €400 (~$500USD) would never appeal to the mass market.

This is why they're so long overdue for an update (PS4, XBox hypercube, or whatever...).

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:16 pm

Lol
I don't know how to close this.

Any mods wanna help
Thanks

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:31 pm

I'm going to lock this now.
I hoped console players were smart enough to see logic but I was wrong

What logic? You're just arguing your values and emotions.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:10 am

The PC version has sold more units than the 360 version. Just saying.

Lies that big should almost constitute a ban or mute. Just saying.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:47 pm

I have no need to play it on the computer, I don't like MODs or commands. I like sitting in my living room sprawled out on my couch, with a bowl of popcorn, a bottle of Pepsi and a pack of smokes.

I can do the same thing on the pc. Playing my pc version of skyrim on my HDTV right now with an xbox 360 controller right now.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:45 pm

I can't stop laughing at how outlandishly wrong you are. Consoles costing more than €400 (~$500USD) would never appeal to the mass market.

the original cost of the PS3 was over $400. consoles arent going to get any cheaper, the days of the $300 dollar console are long gone.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:40 pm

It was a reply to the users saying the game wouldn't have been made if it wasn't on console due to sales. While i agree i thought it was a point worth making.

Oh! OH! My apologies. Sorry this OP got me in a tizzy with his/her one-side B.S. See that's what I get for coming in, in the middle of a conversation. Doh! My bad, LOL!

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:12 pm

Despite being a PC player myself (also own a 360 and PS3), I think that consoles have done wonders for the gaming market in bringing it into the mainstream market. If everyone had to buy a PC to play games, the overall player base would be much smaller. For example, for the price I paid for my PC, I could get a 250GB Xbox 360, a 40 inch 1080p TV to play it on, and a high quality laptop for everyday use, and still have ￡500-￡600 left over. I think it is more economically viable to play consoles which is why more people use them, therefore developers have to cater to the majority, otherwise their business would fail rapidly.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:51 am

I can't stop laughing at how outlandishly wrong you are. Consoles costing more than €400 (~$500USD) would never appeal to the mass market.

Er, thats how much the PS3 was at launch. And that was the cheapest version of it. lol at people that just post random [censored] thats wrong.

You can build a PC right now for 350-400 bucks that will outdo any console.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:23 pm

Sorry, but you're 56,643% wrong. Skyrim PC sales only accont for little more than a fifth of total sales.

um where in my post did i say anything about skyrim sales? i clearly stated that the top five PC games sold more than the top 5 360 sales.......i didnt say anything about skyrim.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:31 pm

Lies that big should almost constitute a ban or mute. Just saying.

I got the info from Escapists. I will try and locate the article. IIRC it said Bethesda had shipped 10 million untis and 4 million of those were pc.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:13 pm

Apparently your not seeing my point. I HAVE a gaming PC. Do I want to play ETS on it? NO. Do I want to hook my PC to my T.V? NO.

Since you seem a bit slow..I like playing ETS on my Xbox 360 and that will not change.

I'm slow yet you won't do these things to make your experience better.
Why are people like this allowed on the Internet

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:06 am

You can use your tv for the pc
Their are PC controllers
Pc has more then mods and if it wasn't for consoles the games would be 10x better
I solved your problems go buy a gaming pc

Here is an example of a stupid and immature comeback towards a great post.

Imagine how awesome skyrim would be if they focused only on consoles.
You're extremely selfish in wanting millions left out, just so you could a small chance of having a better game

Bethesda wouldn't have the resources to create a better game without consoles.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:48 pm

Consoles have made the series what it actually is today. Having the game PC only would mean it would be a very limited market. The only reason Skyrim has become so popular is because of Morrowind being on the Xbox and Oblivion being on the Xbox 360/PS3.

Without the huge success all their games have been, they wouldn't have had the budget, the time or the staff to make the game what it is today. Therefore Skyrim wouldn't be anywhere near as big and feature packed as it is now, the audience just wouldn't have been there.

The whole "consoles have limited this game" argument is getting old now. And it's just plain wrong.

Actually its partly true.

Consoles in general have helped the TES series expand, yes, but from a hardware perspective, it has held back the game and many other games from what they could have been if they were PC only. (Budget aside)

Its a double edged sword really. We need the console market to keep games alive and selling, but they are limited by the hardware of an ancient computer.

The best time, tech wise, for games is in the first few years after a console's release, because the hardware is new and up to date. Once the next consoles are out, then we will see a jump in the games from a technical perspective, because they will have the console market to back them and the hardware to back the developers vision. But as it is right now, Microsoft and Sony are milking things as much as they can.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:22 pm

I've only had a gaming PC 2 months, I'm no elitist. I'm intelligent enoughto see pc is far superior and Consoles svck

With opinions and statments that childish and immature, I'll never believe what someone like you spews out. It's just the way you are going at this. "pc is far superior and consoles svck" holds no merit and only serves to put a thread in the fast lane for a lock.