Fallout is currently being made by Bethesda, failure on your part.

Bethesda doesn't need competition, it's creates it's own competition! :flamethrower:

I would just be happy if the only problems with Skyrim was its graphic glitches, and sometimes unsolvable quests...but there are some mechanics that are broken right now. utterly broken.

I would call that their story's progression, but the actual story's are not that similar.

Agreed. Heck, that's the only R* game I 100%ed. Hunting challenges for the win. Although my favorite mission was actually from the first game, where you fought the Mexican Army and had to take and defend the Bridge.

Borderlands has a similar item menu and equip system as TES, and has skill trees that are slightly similar to Skyrim. However, both of these are on a smaller scale, and Borderlands is also an FPS.

Not that they have any competition with each other whatsoever.

really...? i mean really....

As others have said, no one else even really attempts what Bethesda attempts (and largely achieves, IMO) with the ES series. But I wish they would. I'd kill for a true open-world sci-fi RPG. (I love Mass Effect, but it doesn't qualify.)

Story Progression = Storyline

If we are talking about pure story then it is not much different.

Let's compare Dragon Age: Origins to Mass Effect.

DA:O
-Starts off as a clueless person on his/her destiny
-Recruited into organization (Grey Wardens) to embark on adventure (defeat darkspawn)
-Form friendships/alliances (recruit armies and meet party members)
-Prepare for the big fight (Landsmeet, gathering of armies at Redcliffe)
-Big fight/climix (Retaking of Denerim, fighting Archdemon)

Mass Effect
-Starts off as clueless person on his/her destiny
-Recruited into organization (Spectres) and embark on adventure (defeat Saren which later evolves into Saren and Repears)
-Form friendships/alliances (meet party members, gather proof of Saren treachery to Council)
-Prepare for big fight (chase Saren and look for Prothean/Reaper information)
-Big Fight/climix (Assault on Citadel, full-blown revelation of Saren organic/machine hybrid and Sovereign)

DA2 and ME3 are a very diff genre from Skyrim, and in no way a direct competition, imo.

There really isn't all that much in terms of open world RPGs. The only other Open World RPG I've really ever played was "Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura", which was released over 10 years ago and while the game itself was profitable (and arguably a very good game), a sequel was never made as the studio that made it wasted it's resources on other games that were complete failures in the end and the studio disbanded.

There are many other RPGs, notably Bioware games but they generally lead you down a per-defined path and have a tightly knit set of events, the upcoming SWTOR maybe one to look out for since it's an MMORPG there is likely to be more of an open-world feel to it, but being set in the star-wars universe it's spread over several planets and even has sections based on space ships. It's also a sci-fi where Skyrim of course is a fantasy.

You could try comparing WoW to Skyrim on the open-world bit but the age difference... it just feels like kicking the walking stick from with under an old man's hand.

Were the game structured a bit different, allowed first person, and had explorable terrain over a map I'd wager Mount and Blade could give TES a good run, at least when it comes to immersion and realism fans.

With mods M&B becomes even more awesome.

While it's more of a strategy game there are RPG elements to it, mainly when it comes to your character development. There is also a huge potential for the player to create whatever story he wants within that world, from roaming bandit hunter, an actual bandit, blade for hire, mercenary for empires, or even a Lord and King.

It also has a fantastic combat system, and mounted combat <3

if you want scifi you want the X series, there isnt even a question abot that, and comparing skyrim to Wow is just silly.. the real answer is no there is no skyrim competition. No fantasy game has this scale...


(i beta'd SWTOR it is wow with ligth sticks.)

You forget that WoW and SW:TOR are marketed in the MMO genre, completely different than the Open-World RPG genre TES is in.

I explicitly mentioned that it is because they're MMOs that they have an open-world feel to them, however this was just about what is close in being "open-world" and not what the game is like. I've said the only game I've ever seen that really was in this genre is Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura, an old game from a disbanded team and so it's certainly not competition anymore.

Lol, yeah, I'm not denying that they have very similar structures, but IDK, I think there is a lot more to the story than just the story line.

I mean in all the ES's (well at least IV and V, didn't play the others) you;
-Start off a prisoner
-Learn you are unique from the rest of the world
-Discover a threat to the world that only you can prevent
-Prevent it

I don't think all the ES's storys' are similar.

@minusthedrifter

M&B awesome awesome game! Even with the primitive graphics, the gameplay is outstanding. Mods add a lot as well, great modding community. I was quietly hoping Skyrim would adopt some of the melee and mounted combat from M&B, but we can't have it all I guess.

Haha but TES isn't known for stories or storylines, the series is known for its intense lore background and open-world (which relates to roleplaying)

I tried Dwarf Fortress. It was an ugly, disgusting, confusing mess. I deleted it almost immediatly.

Interplay was publishing most of the "open-world" RPGs until it went bankrupt not long after the turn of the century. I wish more publishers would step up to the plate. Fallout 1&2 were my first 'open-world' RPGs back in '99. IMO no RPG has matched those in freedom until NV. TES has a lot of freedom to wander around, but not much in actually role-playing a personality while Fallout did both. gamesas has made some big improvements in that area by making NV and have given me some hope for the future in RPGs.

Well Blizzard and Bethesda have 'Soon' trademarked basically, Blizzard is winning with D3.

no but im waiting to see how the witcher 2 is when it comes out on xbox

If you're gonna generalize that much you might as well include Oblivion and Skyrim into that synopsis, because they both fit.

And I do, I don't praise Skyrim or the TES series for storyline as I play games such as The Witcher series for that. I praise TES and Skyrim for rich lore and open-world gameplay.

Torchlight II, Dungeons and dragons, Last Chaos, WoW, Anarchy Online, Most Muds that still exist... Zelda, Rage?, The Sims III, Spore, Crysis, Prototype, Alice in wonderland...

Not sure what you believe "competition" is...

Similar depth? Similar structure? Similar graphics? Similar sort-of-statistics? Similar fights? Same price-range? Direct copy, but not the actual game content?

I have really high hopes for GTAV.

imo, they need to go less GTA4 and more San Andreas. That game was the all-time best selling game on the PS2 for a reason.