Ebony Warrior: More than just a fight?

Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:28 pm

Actually the Ebony Warrior is not as powerful as everyone claims. Yes he likely is stronger than every other enemy, however there is one thing to pay attention to. One thing that I specifically noticied in youtube videos.

Ebony Warrior has the 10% chance reflect ALL damage perk for heavy armor. What does this mean? If you are using super uber dual weild Legendary Dragonbone swords there is a chance that he will reflect all that damage right on to you. The damage that he actually does himself is likely only slightly more than Draugr Death Overlords(Ebony weapon + crExtraDamage025) perhaps comparable to the Keepers(Dragonbone weapon + crExtraDamage03).

Judging by most comments: "I went in with 1,000 armor rating and 300 damage Dragonbone sword and he still beat me!!!??" Makes perfect sense. They most likely, quite literally killed themselves.

I fought him on master. My dragonbone sword does 110 damage. I use absolutely no OP gear whatsoever. I had full health which means about 600. Full heavy armor set which isn't at the level cap but still quite high. 507 it is. So the fight started, I instantly staggered him with a shield bash and was going for a power attack. My health went down by a small bit after he hit me one time. But like I said, I was going for a power attack and nailed it without him hitting me. The second I did so I was lying on the ground. Dead. It happened in one way or another, multiple times. Today was about the 9th time.

I still haven't beat him on master without using things which I consider unfair like shouting him off the cliff. Shame on me.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:19 am

I haven't found him yet, but he sounds a little bit like the Orc that carried Umbra in Morrowind. Maybe it is supposed to be a little throwback to those of us that have been playing the series for longer than we will admit at gatherings of non-nerds.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:12 am


I still haven't beat him on master without using things which I consider unfair like shouting him off the cliff. Shame on me.

Did that kill him? I tried that multiple times, and it didn't even dent his health.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:43 am

I gotta say, I know that everyone fights differently and all that, and its not your fault that you guys play the way you do, but if you killed the ebony warrior with arrows, conjuration, or anything lower than master, or with op weapons you had to use a potion or enchanting to make, you can't brag about killing him.This is supposed to be an honorable one on one nord styled duel. You don't use frikkin arrows and conjuration in a one on one duel. If you did, good for you, but don't brag about it. It's not impressive.

Close quarters combat. Anything else just isn't impressive enough to share with the class. Just my two cents.

Let me give you some change. BS. There are no tough guys in video games.

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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:37 pm

Did that kill him? I tried that multiple times, and it didn't even dent his health.

For me it did. But I have to say I kind of... enhanced his fall the first time by using the unlimited shout glitch. ._. Try slow time, then cyclone and then unrelenting force while the enemy is in the air from cyclone. I love doing this. From time to time. But a simple unrelenting force also did the trick for me.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:11 pm

He was just standing there so I downed him with a single arrow sneak attack after poisoning the arrow and drinking fortify marksman potion.

Noobs! You use these tactics because you know you cant beat him normal way! Very Noobtube style! Unbeliavable.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:39 am

Let me give you some change. BS. There are no tough guys in video games.

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Was that supposed to be funny? :down:

If you meant tough guys as in enemies, play Dark Souls. Then come back and talk to me.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:50 pm

For me it did. But I have to say I kind of... enhanced his fall the first time by using the unlimited shout glitch. ._. Try slow time, then cyclone and then unrelenting force while the enemy is in the air from cyclone. I love doing this. From time to time. But a simple unrelenting force also did the trick for me.

That glitch is very very fun to do from time to time.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:24 pm

it's simple, he says that because he only appears at lvl 81 and by then it should mean that you've done most everything in the game...the fight between 2 seasoned champs is the last thing left worth doing ;)
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:19 am

I gotta say, I know that everyone fights differently and all that, and its not your fault that you guys play the way you do, but if you killed the ebony warrior with arrows, conjuration, or anything lower than master, or with op weapons you had to use a potion or enchanting to make, you can't brag about killing him.This is supposed to be an honorable one on one nord styled duel. You don't use frikkin arrows and conjuration in a one on one duel. If you did, good for you, but don't brag about it. It's not impressive.

Close quarters combat. Anything else just isn't impressive enough to share with the class. Just my two cents.
ha I second the BS here...i remember you sayjng you used marked for death and were wearing uber armor and weapons so you can't talk smack :P

I play on expert because it's hard enough without the madness of master...especially since my total armor rating is about 90 and I don't use potions or magic
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:35 am

ha I second the BS here...i remember you sayjng you used marked for death and were wearing uber armor and weapons so you can't talk smack :tongue:

I play on expert because it's hard enough without the madness of master...especially since my total armor rating is about 90 and I don't use potions or magic

that was the first time before I knew marked for death was glitched. And it wasn't uber armor and weapons. Just normal improved dragonbone.

And the enchantments were normal enchantments, not augmented by potions or anything like that. Second and third time, I did not use marked for death, and the second time I was in Stalhrim light, third time nord carved. So I'm not being a hypocrite or anything like that.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:09 am

He reminds me of Umbra from Morrowind...Long lived, with nothing more to complete but a warriors death.

Perhaps he is an allegory of player characters.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:27 am



that was the first time before I knew marked for death was glitched. And it wasn't uber armor and weapons. Just normal improved dragonbone.

And the enchantments were normal enchantments, not augmented by potions or anything like that. Second and third time, I did not use marked for death, and the second time I was in Stalhrim light, third time nord carved. So I'm not being a hypocrite or anything like that.
ha yea yea, fight him a loincloth or it doesn't count :P


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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:58 pm

ha yea yea, fight him a loincloth or it doesn't count :tongue:

Lol, I see your point.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:17 am

He reminds me of Umbra from Morrowind...Long lived, with nothing more to complete but a warriors death.

Perhaps he is an allegory of player characters.

Wish we got more info on him.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:49 am

The ebony warrior says that there are no more challenges but I don't think he realized that there was a citizen of whiterun whose home had been invaded by a wolf and could use his help.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:49 am

The ebony warrior says that there are no more challenges but I don't think he realized that there was a citizen of whiterun whose home had been invaded by a wolf and could use his help.

lol, good one. :thumbsup:
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:13 pm

Was that supposed to be funny? :down:

If you meant tough guys as in enemies, play Dark Souls. Then come back and talk to me.

Funny? No. I call BS on you "setting the bar of legitimacy," when it comes to the Ebony Warrior...not that it really matters. And no, games are not hard. If someone wants to break a game using the game's mechanics, that's something in and of itself. If someone wants to RP their character and legitimately get a jump on the guy who has run out of things to do, that's legitimate too. Afterall, if he's seen and done it all, he should be more than prepared for a sneek attack by someone he has had the gnads to challenge. Etc, etc, etc. So no, I wasn't joking. I wasn't trolling you either. Personally, I find it hard to believe that someone downed him that easily - but you never know. I don't care if you kill the Ebony Warrior buck-nekked with your fists, though. It just means you found a way to "exploit" the game's mechanics to allow you to do so. It is a single-player RPG with so many ways to break the game its rediculous. I would venture to say that there isn't a soul that has done anything worth bragging about in the game or done anything that needs to measure up, to be worthy of sharing with the class. That's just my observation, of course.

As an aside, I think I would heartily enjoy a world filled with NPC's more like the Ebony Warrior than not.

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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:07 am

Funny? No. I call BS on you "setting the bar of legitimacy," when it comes to the Ebony Warrior...not that it really matters. And no, games are not hard. If someone wants to break a game using the game's mechanics, that's something in and of itself. If someone wants to RP their character and legitimately get a jump on the guy who has run out of things to do, that's legitimate too. Afterall, if he's seen and done it all, he should be more than prepared for a sneek attack by someone he has had the gnads to challenge. Etc, etc, etc. So no, I wasn't joking. I wasn't trolling you either. Personally, I find it hard to believe that someone downed him that easily - but you never know. I don't care if you kill the Ebony Warrior buck-nekked with your fists, though. It just means you found a way to "exploit" the game's mechanics to allow you to do so. It is a single-player RPG with so many ways to break the game its rediculous. I would venture to say that there isn't a soul that has done anything worth bragging about in the game or done anything that needs to measure up, to be worthy of sharing with the class. That's just my observation, of course.

As an aside, I think I would heartily enjoy a world filled with NPC's more like the Ebony Warrior than not.

- Tommy Truck

I think you missed the point completely my little Tonka truck friend. I never said that the way they killed them wasn't legitimate, I just said it wasn't impressive enough to brag about. :wave: Isn't reading things correctly the first time better than making long winded posts? I think so. And like I said, play Dark Souls and tell me video games can't be hard.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:08 am

2 Arrows put him down on Master for me with my archer. Bow was at like 235 damage. Isn't a lot at all.

He's by far the hardest enemy in the game, but play your cards right and he can still go down like a chump.

235 damage?
That's A LOT lol...my fully smithed Auriel's Bow does something like 55 damage+enchant...and that's with 100 Smithing and +25% smithing enchants on ring and neck...
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:45 pm

I found him challenging on adept, not nearly as hard as Karstaag though.

I do agree with those that are saying going the stealth/ranged approach and saying the fight isn't difficult is a little silly, cos you know... going invisible and then backstabbing him or whatever isn't exactly.. fighting him.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:39 pm

Okay so a lot of us know about this so called Ebony Warrior who is a ridiculously hard man to defeat. When he approaches you however he talks about how there are no more quests for him, no more people to help, no dungeons to clear, and so on. I was just curious about the purpose behind this quest. Is there supposed to be some hidden message or connection between you and the Ebony Warrior? I know it sounds weird and is hard to explain what I mean but if you kind of understand what I'm saying, I just want to hear a few thoughts on this.

I wouldn't look too into it, he is just a hard fight for level 81 characters in the game of Skyrim, that is about where the lore stops with the Ebony Warrior. My opinion anyway
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:33 am

ha yea yea, fight him a loincloth or it doesn't count :tongue:

Lol, I see your point.

You'll need a bigger loincloth then.


And like I said, play Dark Souls and tell me video games can't be hard.

Agreed. Chuck the first Ninja Gaiden in there too. Ooo Ooo! Max Payne 3 on hardcoe is a bit of a nightmare.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:13 pm

I think you missed the point completely my little Tonka truck friend. I never said that the way they killed them wasn't legitimate, I just said it wasn't impressive enough to brag about. :wave: Isn't reading things correctly the first time better than making long winded posts? I think so. And like I said, play Dark Souls and tell me video games can't be hard.

No, I am certain my reading comprehension was more than adequate. I agree, you said "it wasn't impressive enough to brag about." It reminds me of an episode of Bully Beat Down I once saw. One of the bullies kept refering to himself as "the line," in respect to the seperation of "the men" from "the boys." Throughout every conversation he had, he never did put together the glint in peoples' eyes and the smirks on their faces every time he would say, "I am the line." To each their own.

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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:53 pm

People should kill him however they want... Also, you made a stealth character which is made for sneak attacks and then are told that beating a tough warrior with the way you built your character to do is cheap? So they want you to run up to the hardest enemy in the game with your little dagger...
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