I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be considered canon. In the past, the only games in the Fallout series to be declared non-canon are the ones that are so poorly received by fans that the developers have no other option but to ignore the game ever existed.

From what I am seeing right now people seem to be viewing New Vegas positively. So it shouldn't have any problem.

Also, in the past Fallout games there are also multiple endings for each settlement you come across. But in the end, only one of them will be cannon. For example, for the small farming town Shady Sands you can have it destroyed by either the raiders or the Super Mutants, but in the end, the cannon story is that it transformed into the New California Republic.

So my guess is that for New Vegas at the end only one of the possible endings will be considered canon.

I can imagine the explosions of the people at NMA now. Good thing I dont go there. :laugh:

well, strictly speaking Fallout New Vegas is a spinoff from the series, not Fallout 4. Think of it more as a developer playground, a chance to finally get Van Buren made in some shape or form. So in that respect it is similar to the other spinoffs. I think of it as Fallout 3.5, if that helps?

However, saying that, and given who the devs are, then this game is 100% canon, since they invented the canon in the first place. Whoever goes on to develop Fallout 4, Obsidian, Bethesda, my Grandma, it will take New Vegas into account as much as (or maybe even more than) Fallout 3.

Indeed. I see no reason why it shouldn't be considered canon, why would Bethesda let Obsidian make the game if they did not plan for it to be canon? The only way I could see it being declared non-canon is if it ends up like BOS, which I strongly doubt will happen.

Now, due to the multiple endings issue, they might consider only one ending canon in future games, but that's not declaring the game not canon, it's a fairly common solution to use when its time to make a sequel to a game which has more than one possible ending.



Considering that Bethesda holds the license to the series and therefore can decide what direction to take it in, and by extension, also what is and isn't canon (The only reason Obsidian is being allowed to develop the game at all is because Bethesda chose to do so.) I don't think who originally created the series has anything to do with it at all. If Bethesda decided, for some reason, that they wanted to consider New Vegas non-canon, they'd have every right to, but I strongly doubt that will happen, unless something in New Vegas terribly messes up the canon for some reason, which I can't really see happening.

Well said Selbeth, besides, BoS was just aweful, and Tactics was kind of like the guy who goes and sees the movie in the theater and decides to write his own twisted idea of what Fallout is like.

hmm yeah granted. BUT there is a reason that Bethesda brought in what is essentially the Fallout 2 team to write this next one. It's not because they couldn't do it themselves, but because they WANTED that writing team, that canon insight. From what we've seen from the design videos Oblivion have been given more-or-less free reign to run with their story, which wouldn't happen if Bethesda were in any way concerned that it would ruin their franchise. Bethesda knows what is canon, you lot never stop telling them! lol :fallout:

From wiki FAQ:
Question solved methinks

I think yes. The reason I think this is that the team said that Bethesda restricted some locations from them; (they may have plans for FO4, and don't want contradiction, or don't want those areas to be covered in FO:NV). :shrug:

ahhh, thanks Giz. Fascinating stuff.

what locations?

We don't know just yet, Fallout 4 is either under development, or in planning phases.

It's semi-canon.

Myself, I think "canon" is one of those terms where the world would probably be a better place had it never found it's way into fandom jargon (that and "engine," of course.) This one's highly open to interpretation, I think. After spending (way too long, probably) on the "Aliens in Fallout" threads, I've come to a personally very specific interpretation of how "canon" is relevant to an ostensibly open-world role-playing game where player choice and freedom is a primary design element-

Quite simply, I find "canon" to be those events which the subsequent games decide absolutely must occur within the game for the narrative to maintain continuity. My classic example is how, in Fallout 2, you will come across NCR - which is led by Tandi, and grown from Shady Sands. Which means that, canonically, you had to have received the "good ending" for that town in Fallout 1, and that your PC had to have saved Tandi from the Raiders in that game (or that she at the very least survived...) Anything else, not specifically referred to in subsequent games, isn't canon.

At least, that's the way I see it. Remember, we're talking about a game where kind of the whole "point" is that what happens in my game is going to be different than what happens in your game. Labeling things as canon only nails down has to be the same in both of our games - and (for obvious reasons, I think) a game like Fallout is better, the fewer canon elements there are.

So, personally, I think New Vegas will be "official," certainly - but nothing in it is going to be "canon" until/if Fallout 4 comes out and you come across an NPC who says "hey, did your hear about New Vegas and how it was over-run by Wookies?" Until then, I don't really see the point - until another game comes out to either refute or confirm specific events that occurred in my own individual and unique play-through. :shrug:

That was just the intellegent ones.

And this is why I want a comic to handle certain points in the storyline.

Arizona for sure, possibly other locations as well.

finally another doctor who fan

Ummmm... not Doctor Who.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/The_Master

Here is what they did in fallout 1 http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vault_Dweller%27s_memoirs

I thought that the memoirs were open for debate as to whether it's canon or not.

I'm pretty sure it is cannon, everything makes sense, Tandi was rescued, the vault dweller formed a village, and the master died.

Everything in there is build upon in Fallout 2. So, yeah, it's canon.

Ok.

fallout vegas will be considered canon, anything that is something you can choose (such as what faction), won't be canon unless Bethesda folks make a certain ruling canon (For example, lets say bethesda decides that the NCR 'won' (in future games, NCR is shown to rule vegas), then that is canon, Bethesda basically has the final say on which ending is canon (or they could decide to not make a decision).

Depends.



Here's the full source: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Bible_0

So yeah according to MCA, how you play Fallout 1 is more canon than the Vault Dweller Memoirs, but they're not exactly non-canon either. The detailed account of Fallout in the Memoirs is more or less for the benefit of those who didn't play the actual game.