Is Fallout New Vegas going to be considered canon : Fallout: New Vegas

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:12 pm

Sorry mods if this is in the wrong place move it if you want to although more people do surf the New Vegas Forum

My question is this will Fallout New Vegas be considered Canon as there are 4 different ending that you could choose. Side with House, Side with Legion, Side with NCR and Solo ending. I know that Fallout 2 had like 6 different endings and is definitly considered canon but New Vegas's just feels like its going to be different

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:33 pm

I don't see why it wouldn't.

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:37 pm

The one thing that bugs me is there is no super villain..like the Master or Frank Horrigan.

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:55 pm

YES 100 [CENSORED] %. There will be way more than 4 endings.

@ogreb: I think it's a good thing that there is no deffinent "bad guy" it gives the player a moral choice, and makes it a more unique game.

» Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:16 am

The one thing that bugs me is there is no super villain..like the Master or Frank Horrigan.

The reason for that is you determine who the villian is going to be. For example if you side with NCR then Ceasars going to be the bad guy

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:14 pm

The reason for that is you determine who the villian is going to be. For example if you side with NCR then Ceasars going to be the bad guy

Read my above post.

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:22 pm

Sorry mods if this is in the wrong place move it if you want to although more people do surf the New Vegas Forum

My question is this will Fallout New Vegas be considered Canon as there are 4 different ending that you could choose. Side with House, Side with Legion, Side with NCR and Solo ending.

I'm sure one of the possible main story endings will be canon. Just like in the original KotOR, you could choose to end the game as light side and save the republic or dark side and continue the war however the canon version is that

Spoiler

Revan (you) was dark side and continued the war.

I know that Fallout 2 had like 6 different endings and is definitly considered canon but New Vegas's just feels like its going to be different

Fallout 2 only had 1 main quest ending. Kill Horrigan and destroy the Enclave. But there were dozens of combinations between the possible endings for individual settlements.

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:53 pm

Fallout 2 only had 1 main quest ending. Kill Horrigan and destroy the Enclave. But there were dozens of combinations between the possible endings for individual settlements.

I'm sure the same will be with this except there will be more main endings. I don't know why anyone would doubt this being a legit canon game. Just because there is no number doesn't mean it's not a big game.

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:07 pm

I'm sure one of the possible main story endings will be canon. Just like in the original KotOR, you could choose to end the game as light side and save the republic or dark side and continue the war however the canon version is that

Spoiler

Revan (you) was dark side and continued the war.

Fallout 2 only had 1 main quest ending. Kill Horrigan and destroy the Enclave. But there were dozens of combinations between the possible endings for individual settlements.

Whaa... I'm almost positive the other ending was canon. Besides,

Spoiler

light side is always the canon ending in StarWars games.

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:51 pm

Bethesda let Obsidian make the game, so obviously they will consider it canon. Obsidian will also obviously consider it canon. But we wont know what ending is considered canon until the game Obsidian makes next, if they do. But that game will likely come after Fallout 4, so we may just find out something about the ending in Fallout 4 anyway.

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:27 pm

FO: BOS and FO:T are not considered canon because the canon was thoroughly mutilated to begin with by them.

This is not the case here.

» Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:32 am

I think it's considered "semi-canon" in that whatever happens in New Vegas will be canon as long as it's not contradicted by a later "main" game. Spin offs are generally semi-canon (Fallout Tactics for instance), while the main story games are usually cannon (Fallout 1 2 and 3). However, even parts of main games can be over rode by later games I think. The Deathclaws going extinct in Fallout 2 but being very present in Fallout 3 is a good example.

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:58 pm

The Deathclaws going extinct in Fallout 2 but being very present in Fallout 3 is a good example.

I thought it was just the intelligent Deathclaws that went extinct, not Deathclaws in general

» Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:10 am

I thought it was just the intelligent Deathclaws that went extinct, not Deathclaws in general

Could be. But I think it just sais "all the deathclaws' in game actually. That's probably due to them not having any plans for a Fallout on the other coast at the time and they didn't see themselves ever using deathclaws in a future game.

But then Bethesda bought Fallout and had other plans.

» Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:28 am

I thought it was just the intelligent Deathclaws that went extinct, not Deathclaws in general

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:15 pm

Bethesda let Obsidian make the game, so obviously they will consider it canon. Obsidian will also obviously consider it canon. But we wont know what ending is considered canon until the game Obsidian makes next, if they do. But that game will likely come after Fallout 4, so we may just find out something about the ending in Fallout 4 anyway.

This, basically. While anything that is not effected by player choice, ie: place names, people, background story exposition, etc... will only risk not being considered canon by direct contradiction in later releases, all issues related to player choice will not be fully canon until a later game shows which of those choices the devs have incorporated into the story. If no other Fallout game mentions anything at all about how things turn out in NV, then none of the possible main paths can be considered canon.

» Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:56 am

Whaa... I'm almost positive the other ending was canon. Besides,

Spoiler

light side is always the canon ending in StarWars games.

I was convinced Revan was canonically dark side but you are right. I looked up the timeline videos for the new MMO and they state Revan was light side. I know I read somewhere that Revan was canonically dark side but I guess that was incorrect.

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:33 pm

I thought it was just the intelligent Deathclaws that went extinct, not Deathclaws in general

It was. Unholy is using Fanon, not Canon. The only Deathclaws made extinct in Fallout 2 were the ones that the Enclave genetically engineered and placed inside Vault 13. The Deathclaw in the rest of Fallout 2 are either an FEV mutation or some pre-war government experiment. (Maybe both, as I cant recall the deathclaws origins.

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:11 pm

It was. Unholy is using Fanon, not Canon. The only Deathclaws made extinct in Fallout 2 were the ones that the Enclave genetically engineered and placed inside Vault 13. The Deathclaw in the rest of Fallout 2 are either an FEV mutation or some pre-war government experiment. (Maybe both, as I cant recall the deathclaws origins.

Fanon?

Also, trying to help bro. Nothing more, nothing less.

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:35 pm

Fanon?

Also, trying to help bro. Nothing more, nothing less.

Oh, I'm sorry, it sounded like you actually assumed all deathclaw were talking intelligent ones. Fanon is basically what some guy thinks should be canon, as opposed to what is established canon.

» Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:27 am

Oh, I'm sorry, it sounded like you actually assumed all deathclaw were talking intelligent ones. Fanon is basically what some guy thinks should be canon, as opposed to what is established canon.

In all fairness, I only played through Fallout 2 one time and didn't give anything more than the bare minimum amount of attention to the Deathclaws. I thought they were all intelligent and that the ones you saw in the vault were the only ones, plus i think there may have been one in an Enclave base. Either way, I did acknowledge in a previous post that I could be completely wrong

Edit: Were there random deathclaw encounters? Now I think of it there may have been, but it was a while back that I played the game.

» Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:14 am

In all fairness, I only played through Fallout 2 one time and didn't give anything more than the bare minimum amount of attention to the Deathclaws. I thought they were all intelligent and that the ones you saw in the vault were the only ones, plus i think there may have been one in an Enclave base. Either way, I did acknowledge in a previous post that I could be completely wrong

Like I said, I'm sorry. I try to make sure information is highly accurate. Innacurate things make my teeth itch xD

» Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:58 am

That term just sounds so [censored]

» Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:39 am

Why wouldn't it? I just don't see Bethesda totally retconning it and saying "You know that one time we let Obsidian make a Fallout game? Yeah, that never happened." It also wouldn't make any sense for it to be semi-canon. If Bethesda miraculously retcons this completely then I will probably start ignoring what is officially true about the series.

» Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:28 pm

Will Fallout New Vegas be cannon? . . . .

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. . . . . . Wow

Moving onto the NMA forum's