if that's the case then why are most shouts completely useless in master difficulty lol?

was I supposed to become the lord master dovahkin by maximizing potentials with bs/alch/enchant ? Because I thought these were just professions in the game, that you know, other npc's do as well. lmao.

I've yet to see one really devoted fan quote me on this and tell me I'm wrong....

It's because shouts only have three upgrades so they pretty much get capped in as much power their given in the third stage of it, they could've been stronger but bethesda decided against it.

ohhh, so they looked at a little thing called balance? interesting concept....

ohhh, so they looked at a little thing called balance? interesting concept....

The breath shouts and a few others are useless at any difficulty. The rest are either niche or completely overpowered (hi2u Marked for Death!).

I fail to see the relevance of shouts in this thread.

was I supposed to become the lord master dovahkin by maximizing potentials with bs/alch/enchant ? Because I thought these were just professions in the game, that you know, other npc's do as well. lmao.

Alchemy/enchantment/blacksmith.

I'm at level 60 with 10 unspent ability points that I don't even need to use at the moment. I only need to use 2 pieces of heavy armor to get over 660 defense (which is the reduction cap I think). My weapons do 500 damage each, and have 2 enchants on them. I leveled everything legitimately with no exploitation at all, still I feel like I am way, WAY overpowered even with the difficulty raised to master I am still unchallenged. I honestly don't even need to fight, my follower Lydia can handle literally anything herself and this was done using the games mechanics legitimately.

Honestly I just feel a bit let down, this doesn't seem very play tested at all; by that I mean it's completely imbalanced. The only way I could possibly be challenged even a little bit is if they added additional difficulty settings.

So, here's to hoping they add a much higher difficulty in the future.

TL;DR

Honestly, if I knew I'd be THIS imba doing this alchemy/enchant/blacksmith combo I probably wouldn't have. I didn't even read about it or anything I just looked at this stuff and said, Damn, if I do this, this and this I'm gonna get better gear for my 1handed heavy armor build. I mean leveling this stuff I was able to get 100,000 gold without a problem without exploiting at all. So not even money is an issue either anymore.


Anyone else did this feel a bit annoyed that there isn't a harder difficulty setting to choose?

Just. . . don't use overpowered weapons and armor?

Alchemy/enchantment/blacksmith.

I'm at level 60 with 10 unspent ability points that I don't even need to use at the moment. I only need to use 2 pieces of heavy armor to get over 660 defense (which is the reduction cap I think). My weapons do 500 damage each, and have 2 enchants on them. I leveled everything legitimately with no exploitation at all, still I feel like I am way, WAY overpowered even with the difficulty raised to master I am still unchallenged. I honestly don't even need to fight, my follower Lydia can handle literally anything herself and this was done using the games mechanics legitimately.

Honestly I just feel a bit let down, this doesn't seem very play tested at all; by that I mean it's completely imbalanced. The only way I could possibly be challenged even a little bit is if they added additional difficulty settings.

So, here's to hoping they add a much higher difficulty in the future.

TL;DR

Honestly, if I knew I'd be THIS imba doing this alchemy/enchant/blacksmith combo I probably wouldn't have. I didn't even read about it or anything I just looked at this stuff and said, Damn, if I do this, this and this I'm gonna get better gear for my 1handed heavy armor build. I mean leveling this stuff I was able to get 100,000 gold without a problem without exploiting at all. So not even money is an issue either anymore.


Anyone else did this feel a bit annoyed that there isn't a harder difficulty setting to choose?

Spot on.

The problem some people seem to be failing to understand is that for a player who hasn't trawled the web for tips and just chooses to play the game, by merely deciding to use certain skills, they will seriously ruin the experience later on.
They may well choose other paths and enjoy the game in it's latter stages, but by using smith/alch/enchant, by simply enjoying the game as they choose to, they are unknowingly spoling the latter stages of the game.

I get the whole 'freedom' argument, but you really aren't free to play as you choose by selecting the very skills you feel comfortable with... forcing the player to select certain skills/perks to balance the game themselves is bad design.

If Beth patched in a new difficulty at least to compensate for those that had made these 'bad' choices, they could rekindle old abandoned high level characters. (Yes, or they could take their armour off and never use heal spells etc.)
But nerf the skills or at least have a "Using this skill will ruin your experience" popup warning?

It's not like they were bad or incorrect choices, if you were going full melee it was logical to go into alch/bs/enchant. It's melee's alternative to using spells.

I don't see what's wrong with them adding a new higher difficulty to compensate for better players logic. But instead we're NOT supposed to play our class, and instead are supposed to gimp ourselves making all our hard work leveling these tree's to 100 null and void? lmao.

I think there are a few "dedicated" fans that aren't seriously looking at the issue here and are instead claiming it is a "TES" game therefor it must be an imbalanced steaming pile.

I suppose bethesda could always go back to the dark ages and make it a pre-set difficulty like in daggerfall and make the enemies insanely over powered to compensate >.> .

Yes but the very basic argument here is that something is wrong with the game, hate it or not these threads have a valid point. The looping bug should be fixed, and I personally think that the crafting skills should be more satisfying in the way they assist the player in quests or interactions with the world.

Yes the bug should be fixed. But just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

or they could just add a higher difficulty setting.

<.<

Yes the bug should be fixed. But just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

I don't believe there will be a agreement in this thread over if it should be fixed or just add a new difficulty but i remember in morrowind some areas had preset levels of enemies and that seemed to help iron out some of the overpowered complaints of people idk if skyrim has anything like that though.

Edit: Well untill then agree to disagree?

The problem isn't restraint or anything like that (lol this is an absurd argument and I can't even believe I'm typing this),

Its just nonsense.
Even with all these skills at 100 you can still, as I pointed out, create weapons and armour of any power you like.
You say 'I cant play my class', well you found out that doing that creates a playstyle you dont like.
So, quit doing it and enjoy the game as you do like it.

At this point there is a very broad range of possibilities/
Dont go asking for changes to be made that will only limit other peoples freedom by narrowing that down into the playstyle you prefer only.

So I'm not supposed to play my Class now because I went full alch/enchant/bs ?