It feels odd to play as the "dragonborn" when your n : V - Skyrim

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:45 pm

No, Tiber Septim was NOT from Atmora like the Imperial Propaganda machine likes to say, because at the time he lived Atmora was a frozen wasteland which had long been deserted centuries before. I advise going to the Lore forum to expand your knowledge.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:49 am

No, Tiber Septim was NOT from Atmora like the Imperial Propaganda machine likes to say, because at the time he lived Atmora was a frozen wasteland which had long been deserted centuries before. I advise going to the Lore forum to expand your knowledge.

Give us evidence then please.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:22 pm

No, Tiber Septim was NOT from Atmora like the Imperial Propaganda machine likes to say, because at the time he lived Atmora was a frozen wasteland which had long been deserted centuries before. I advise going to the Lore forum to expand your knowledge.

says Atmora here

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tiber_Septim

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:09 am

doesn't bother me, in Morrowind we were the reincarnation of a Dunmer ( or Chimer , can't remember memory to clouded by marijuana residue ) Hero.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:51 am

No, Tiber Septim was NOT from Atmora like the Imperial Propaganda machine likes to say, because at the time he lived Atmora was a frozen wasteland which had long been deserted centuries before. I advise going to the Lore forum to expand your knowledge.

Tiber septim was most definatly not a breton from high rock.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:53 pm

Well they really don't care that much, when you first meet Paarthurnax he pretty much says forget about your race and shout at me like a dovah so the way I see it the dragons see your soul first not what you look like on the outside. well thats what I think.

i remember that, when paarthumax teaches u the inferno fire breath shout he says something like "dont shout at me like a elf, shout at me like a dovah, let me taste your power dovahkiin" i remember him saying something along those lines, and im quite surprised too by the fact that he takes it so lightly, appearently dragons arent bothered by what race you are, only the soul u contain is what makes u the dovahkiin.
but my point isnt if it feels right into the game mechanics or not, well technically it is 50% of my problem, the other 50% is basically the way we the players feel about it
something about a khajiit or argonian shouting just doesnt feel right..

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:26 pm

No, Tiber Septim was NOT from Atmora like the Imperial Propaganda machine likes to say, because at the time he lived Atmora was a frozen wasteland which had long been deserted centuries before. I advise going to the Lore forum to expand your knowledge.

Umm actually after the first migration the proto-nords did to Tamriel which failed because they got pushed back by the falmer or something (I don't remember) they went back to Atmora, the second time only 500 of the original Atmoran settlers went back to skyrim, several still stayed on the shores of Atmora and Atmora is very much alive, even occasionally Tamriel sees trade from Atmoran ships.

doesn't bother me, in Morrowind we were the reincarnation of a Dunmer ( or Chimer , can't remember memory to clouded by marijuana residue ) Hero.

Chimer, Indoril Nerevar was a chimer general and leader of the people of Morrowind, even started up the first council and made peace between the great houses and the dwemer, later known as House Dwemer or the Seventh House.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:28 pm

People are showing their lack of Lore knowledge, ok, come to the Lore forum, me and a few people will put together a thread involving the origins of Hjati, I mean Tiber Septim.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:28 am

Skyrim just seems more nord friendly to me overall..
Alotmof the armor and weapons don't look right to me on my non-nord players..

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:39 am

No it doesn't feel odd to me.

It makes no difference, since anyone can be dragonborn. Also The PC during Skyrim probably isn't the only Dragonborn in Tamriel.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:17 am

Really, the only reason I did the Main Quest is to make me more powerful and fit to lead the Dark Brotherhood. That's how I roleplayed it. Besides, Paarthurnax is my bro because of it.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:19 pm

People are showing their lack of Lore knowledge, ok, come to the Lore forum, me and a few people will put together a thread involving the origins of Hjati, I mean Tiber Septim.

you are showing your lack of knowledge, don't act like a smart [censored] with a stick up your coin purse acting like you know it all, i know jack [censored] myself but as i know

Tiber Septim, I mean Talos, I mean Ysmir... he has many names, and no one knows what is most definite fact.

"Tiber Septim was an emperor of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Nord descent who became one of the most famed figures in http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tamriel history, reigning as Emperor Tiber Septim from http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Second_Era#2E_854-http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Third_Era#3E_38"

There are conflicting accounts of Tiber Septim's birthplace, ancestry, and original name

?some say he was born in Atmora, but grew up in Skyrim... he had nothing to do with the 500 companions as i saw someone say earlier..

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:39 pm

i remember that, when paarthumax teaches u the inferno fire breath shout he says something like "dont shout at me like a elf, shout at me like a dovah, let me taste your power dovahkiin" i remember him saying something along those lines, and im quite surprised too by the fact that he takes it so lightly, appearently dragons arent bothered by what race you are, only the soul u contain is what makes u the dovahkiin.
but my point isnt if it feels right into the game mechanics or not, well technically it is 50% of my problem, the other 50% is basically the way we the players feel about it
something about a khajiit or argonian shouting just doesnt feel right..

I think a khajiit or argonian doing anything is ridiculous. Those who like them though can work something out that makes sense to them.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:03 pm

you are showing your lack of knowledge, don't act like a smart [censored] with a stick up your coin purse acting like you know it all, i know jack [censored] myself but as i know

Tiber Septim, I mean Talos, I mean Ysmir... he has many names, and no one knows what is most definite fact.

"Tiber Septim was an emperor of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Nord descent who became one of the most famed figures in http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tamriel history, reigning as Emperor Tiber Septim from http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Second_Era#2E_854-http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Third_Era#3E_38"

There are conflicting accounts of Tiber Septim's birthplace, ancestry, and original name

?some say he was born in Atmora, but grew up in Skyrim... he had nothing to do with the 500 companions as i saw someone say earlier..

Well as far as all the Nords in the game are concerned, He's a Nord lol, so that's good enough for me.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:03 pm

i remember that, when paarthumax teaches u the inferno fire breath shout he says something like "dont shout at me like a elf, shout at me like a dovah, let me taste your power dovahkiin" i remember him saying something along those lines, and im quite surprised too by the fact that he takes it so lightly, appearently dragons arent bothered by what race you are, only the soul u contain is what makes u the dovahkiin.
but my point isnt if it feels right into the game mechanics or not, well technically it is 50% of my problem, the other 50% is basically the way we the players feel about it
something about a khajiit or argonian shouting just doesnt feel right..

I never heard paarthurnax say that. I thought he said "Don't greet me as man but as a dovah" or something along those lines.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:51 pm

People are showing their lack of Lore knowledge, ok, come to the Lore forum, me and a few people will put together a thread involving the origins of Hjati, I mean Tiber Septim.

Actually according to TIL's timeline of the second era Tiber's true birthplace is unknown but some records appear to say it was Alcaire in High RocK and the first pocket guide states he was born in Atmora.

Source: http://www.imperial-library.info/content/second-era goto year 2E 827, both this still doesn't state that he wasn't a Nord.

I never heard paarthurnax say that. I thought he said "Don't greet me as man but as a dovah" or something along those lines.

That is what he says, even as an elf thats exactly what he says ._.

you are showing your lack of knowledge, don't act like a smart [censored] with a stick up your coin purse acting like you know it all, i know jack [censored] myself but as i know

Tiber Septim, I mean Talos, I mean Ysmir... he has many names, and no one knows what is most definite fact.

"Tiber Septim was an emperor of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Nord descent who became one of the most famed figures in http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tamriel history, reigning as Emperor Tiber Septim from http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Second_Era#2E_854-http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Third_Era#3E_38"

There are conflicting accounts of Tiber Septim's birthplace, ancestry, and original name

? some say he was born in Atmora, but grew up in Skyrim... he had nothing to do with the 500 companions as i saw someone say earlier..

My pointing out of the 500 companions was because someone stated that Atmora was uninhabited due to all of the Atmorans migrating to skyrim, it had nothing to do with Talos besides the fact that it proves he could've been from Atmora because people still live there.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:30 am

Can people stop quoting UESP please, it gives you zero credibility in matters of Lore, Imerial Library is the go-to point.

Also, I didn't see their name but who was the person who said Skyrim still trades with Atmora? Where the hell did you get that from? Your confusing Hjati with Ysgramor(not that guy who lead the 500 companions like the angry guy called him).

No one has come from Atmora in eons, the last ship left there centuries ago.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:27 pm

Can people stop quoting UESP please, it gives you zero credibility in matters of Lore, Imerial Library is the go-to point.

Also, I didn't see their name but who was the person who said Skyrim still trades with Atmora? Where the hell did you get that from? Your confusing Hjati with Ysgramor(not that guy who lead the 500 companions like the angry guy called him).

No one has come from Atmora in eons, the last ship left there centuries ago.

Give. Us. A. Source. Where does it say Talos was a Breton?

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:36 am

Can people stop quoting UESP please, it gives you zero credibility in matters of Lore, Imerial Library is the go-to point.

Also, I didn't see their name but who was the person who said Skyrim still trades with Atmora? Where the hell did you get that from? Your confusing Hjati with Ysgramor(not that guy who lead the 500 companions like the angry guy called him).

No one has come from Atmora in eons, the last ship left there centuries ago.

On somethings yes its not exactly correct but it does have a decent amount of lore correct articles written by some people who use TIL, now the TESwiki, thats should never be trusted.

And no again, my pointing out of this was to prove that people still live in Atmora where someone said they didn't and its still possible people live up there and occasionally come down to Tamriel.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:36 pm

Nope, I took a perverse pleasure in playing the nerevarine as everything BUT a dunmer. Playing a non nord dragonborn doesn't bother me in the slightest.

I like to imagine all the racist NPCs having to swallow their prejudices

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:09 pm

Yes, Tiber Septim could have been a Nord born in Skyrim(though he was as short as a Breton and lived as long as one so that doesn't work). Confusion comes in where books say he is from Atmora(rubbish since it had long been deserted at that time).

There is a reason why the Arcturisn Heresy is regarded as the most likely truth, not including the fact that it was essentially confirmed in-game with the ghost of Old Hrodlan(I swear I spelt this wrong).

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:11 am

Nope, not at all. Any race can be dragonborn. I don't do the MQ anyway.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:46 pm

if it's akatosh's will soo much to choose whoever he wants to be the next dragonborn, then why isnt there a much more in dept explanation about it from the greybeards paarthumax or even the blades? they basically talk about alduin, the shouts, what means to be dragonborn etc
they dont say why is it that a non nord person can be dragonborn and why it was all akatosh's will to choose you to be dragonborn.
a bit of a backstory of ur own character would be much appreciated, i feel like that's whats lacking for a more comprehensive storyline to unfold later on.

Alkosh is "The Father of All Dragons" He is the one who basically makes the souls. All he has to do is make a soul, stick in in an Elf or Beast, and BOOM. Dovahkin. He makes the souls, he makes the Dragons, he makes the Dragonborns. All you Lore buffs I would greatly appreciate a citing or something cause I just know this from Forum arguments. :sweat:

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:54 pm

Tiber Septim was born in Alcaire, Atmora is a fabrication and imperial propaganda.

"Alcaire is a region on the southern coast of the province High Rock. Hjalti Early-Beard (Also known as Tiber Septim) was born in Alcarire according to the book http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Arcturian_Heresy."

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Tiber_Septim

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Arcturian_Heresy

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:17 am

I feel more dragonborn as an Argonian. They are both reptiles. duh...

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