Keep in mind that this is only being published by Bethesda and is being made by Splash Damage. But of course, in this matter, it doesn't matter. And there will initially be no female characters.


BTW, I deleted a "female bashing post" and a post where it was quoted. We won't have that here.

Actually the fact that most Europeans felt the Earth was flat during the fifteenth century is itself a misconception. By the fourteenth century (if not the thirteenth) most in the educated classes had adopted the belief that the world was round. I don't know how common this belief was among the lower classes but education was more widespread than we generally give it credit.

Although I suppose any damage done to your argument is strangely reinforced by this since, either way, misconceptions are being demonstrated


Unfortunately I think this line of argument is ultimately a dead end. Whether or not women make up a substantial percentage of FPS players Splash Damage had decided to make a game where all of the playable characters are men. If they had done the reverse I'm not sure if people would suggest this was a bad move since men make up a substantial percentage of FPS players. Its a shame they weren't able to include a gender option but but I understand just how much additional work it would have been to double their character art (lots!). I still hope Brink does well enough that they can reconsider this for an expansion, down loadable content, or a sequel.

However while this won't be included in the Brink release let's also remember that this is still a legitimate topic of conversation.

I completely support the gesture, but on the condition I am not forced to play as a girl, like in Borderlands. I loved the Siren class, it was a nice edition, but I hated playing as a girl. It seemed very akward, and I bet it was vice-versa for girl gamers as well. Even though Borderlands only implemented one girl class and three guy classes, it was one of the better classes with one of the better action powers for sure, also with some of the better upgrades.

I thought this game was supposed to be about customization. Not having a female character removes quite a level from that. For the female gamers out there, they're forced to be a man. So in terms of options it almost seems to me as though there are fewer in the end. I'd be more willing to sacrifice a few clothing options (oh NO, there's no fancy hat in the exact style i want) than sacrifice an option to play as an entirely different six, with its own archetypes and options. So I guess in other words, this is more a step sideways in terms of customization. By adding the plethora of options they have, they're sacrificing an entire six and, inevitably, a portion of their gamer community.

yeah, because true FPS fans would be so offended by the lack of female players, (even female games) that they will ignore the game as a whole....

I don't really consider it a sacrifice when almost no other FPS's out there have female characters either. MW2 has no girls, Battlefield has no girls, Mag has no girls, Halo has a female voice option but your character model doesn't change, etc.

That being said, I do think it would be cool to have that option. I just also understand why they didn't implement it in the game.

The problem seems to be, once players saw "character customization," they instantly thought 'rpg,' and totally forgetting that it is in fact a testosterone filled FPS.

It would not normally be so difficult to overlook your in-game avatar being limited in terms of six, but I'm speaking in terms of a company putting so much hype into customization and then having something so limited and concrete. There is a huge option missing here. To go out there and sell your feature as being so versatile and infinite, yet still being restricted in terms of the very basic choice of whether your character is male or female seems kind of a weird direction to take. As for the excuses they used, deferring to character animations and hit-boxes. It would make the game appear more varied if they had actually included female characters.

Let's say perhaps that instead of an all-male cast they had an all-female cast. Why was this not considered as a possibility? We are, in fact, alienating the female community. The real FPS fans that are not male might see this as more than just a simple design choice.

It's kind of like a automobile manufacturer telling you that you can pick a truck with any paint job, any added features *dvd player, mp3, etc* and when you ask for a car or an SUV they tell you that's not part of the deal.

Given the leveling up, experience and co-operative nature of this particular FPS I would actually say that it contains enough RPG elements to classify it as at least partially being one. Let's not forget the Elder Scrolls series or Fallout 3 for that matter.

I don't take issue with games having few or no girls playable, but if you're going to talk about how many options you have to customize your character, at least back it up. Just because some games don't have girls or some games only have girls *Heavenly Sword, etc. Doesn't mean we should just be lazy about the whole thing and say "well if Modern Warfare doesn't why should we bother?"

So let's say a company boasts about there character customization. There are literally millions of customization options - but you can only create males....yeah, they were really talking out their ass.

This isn't Everquest or The Sims dude, calm down....

Do you even know why they chose not have females in the game? And are you aware that they wanted them in the game?

Your right, Men & Women can and do, the same things, ( as-well as play games ) I think the main concern was actually the female body-types, Light , Med & Heavy they're not sure how people would react to a butch lisbian type looking female character

In addition, for those of you saying , "it's pointless to ask for things at this point" We must remember the age we live in. Where download-able content (Maps,weapons,skills,and etc. )is possible

Yes. That's it exactly. I'm not a dude. I want to play my gender. Girl gamers are a growing population, and I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. C'mon, Bethesda, think of us girls too!

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!!

Bethesda isn't developing the game...

Sorry, no current plans for female characters in the game at this time.

because Bethesda isn't developing this game....


It's a little bit more than '3 or 4'.... If they were to implement female avatars into the game, the customization options would be cut in half at least. This would mean half as many options for males AND females.

Two genders means presumably twice as many sound resources as well. Meaning less space for other ... stuff. I would love for there to be male and female characters (I mean it worked in Rainbow Six Vegas) but it's a case of would it actually be efficient to do so.

Unless you are working with the developer, that's just a random statement on your part, not fact.

As has been noted, there are no plans for female characters in this game - so the topic is rather moot. However, there does seem to be a thread from some of the guys posting here that women are "demanding" female characters. In fact, I don't think any of the women who opted to participate in this thread has said "Won't play unless I get gender choice"... we just commented that it would be nice to have choice and why we like it (as well as some of the guys who would like it as well. :shrug: ). And no, you do NOT need to reiterate your point about development time to do gender animations, voice work, whatever - yeah, we understood that from the beginning. Still doesn't invalidate my opinion that I like having a PC choice of gender, when possible, regardless of genre.

But that isn't to say Download able female skins aren't in the future. Right~

(dev forum post)

It breaks my heart (and everyone's hearts on the team) to say that for now, the ranks of the security and resistance factions are populated solely by men. Manly men. We'd love to get female playable characters in the game (note, there are women in the game, as story characters and civilians and such), but for now, we decided that our resources would be better spent getting more character customization options for one six, rather than cutting the clothing/hair/texture/face/etc. choices in half to have both sixes.

http://www.splashdamage.com/forums/showpost.php?p=192708&postcount=49

I may not be a developer, but I don't talk out of my ass either.