they probably didn't know it would do that. not trying to back them up or anything, it just seems like the game hardly got play tested, so I don't think they would have known it would fry peoples systems.

When you hold the power button to shut off the system, the disc is still spinning... it stops it first, then shuts off system. no different from what i was suggesting. i'm talking about a total game freeze of course.. referring to my idea of ejecting the disc and waiting for it to return to XMB.

omg... I know what your talking about. here's how I see it: if my system freezes I'm going to leave it off for awhile. so why would I eject the disc? so it returns to the XMB so I can put it back in or another game? [censored] that. I'd rather leave my system off, and use the power button.

also, have you never seen the warning signs proclaiming "do not eject disc while it is spinning?" that's what your [censored] doing!!!! maybe you should take a good look through the user manual that came with your system before you break it.

was it really necessary to get all pissy about? I didn't resort to cussing or condescending conversation with you over this...

if I have to explain something twice in words that you should only have to read once it gets annoying. also, how was i "condescending" you? if you want to take it that way, be my guest, but I'm not going to apologize for your interpretations.

if you would like to do something with your console that the company that made it strongly suggests not doing, go nuts, it's your system. but I wouldn't go around suggesting it to other people, and when they get frustrated explaining multiple times why they don't want to do it you don't say "don't get all pissy with me". what the [censored] were you expecting?

as for "cussing", its just a word. some letters put together. even better, it's covered in a [censored] tag, so why get upset over it? last I checked, there was a thing called "freedom of speech".

It's quite interesting, because I have had a Sony rep tell me on the phone that it's ok to hit eject if the game freezes. Just never hit the power switch on the back of the system unless it's in standby. That is right from their mouth.

Calm down hothead.

that's coming from your mouth. better yet, your keyboard. I think I'll stick to what I read from company documents then what you say.

and hothead? seriously? that rhymes with a word that more better describes me, I think. it depends how you want to read what I said. again, it's your interpretation.

I think that the advice offered by the OP is quite sound and should help for a large number of players with freezing problems.
In fact, anyone who's owned a PS3 for very long ought to know how to get in to Safe Mode and how to restore the file system. It's about as basic as knowing how to clear the cache for Xbox 360 players.
Just my opinion. :shrug:

I do agree with everyone who said that it really svcks that any of us have to resort to methods such as turning off auto-save, disabling internet connection and saving every 10 minutes. I personally agree with the players who feel that the game was rushed, had very little QA testing and still needs some serious patching. However, it is what it is and all we can do is keep waiting and, in the mean time, keep letting Obsidian know what problems we're experiencing so that they can get a handle on things.

Off Topic:
Aleister, no offense man but you need to chill out some and not be so defensive. Getting in to off topic personal exchanges is the surest way to get this thread locked and that would be a shame since it would then fade off to the back pages and stop being a help to those who need it. I'm not attacking, just offering some constructive advice.

alright, I was getting a little frustrated, I'll admit. but sometimes people just don't understand what your trying to say. I think something goes missing in-between the conversion of verbal to written conversation. or, I don't know how to write descriptive enough. whatever. I stand by what I said.

Yep, I get what you mean.
I call it the "joy" of internet communication. LOL!

I just don't want this thread locked.

pEaCe,

:fallout:

Hey PlayDude77:

I am on my 6th run through. The first 5 froze a lot, I didn't want to be forced to play without music and all the other adjustments from the OP as they'd hamper my experience a bit (I love the music in surround and etc). For my current char, I simply tried yours: I stayed offline from the network, though I was still downloading pulse/qore episodes: I've been playing for two days (real life time) and I'm near the end... My game is yet to freeze a single time! I've played through it, even in the troublesome areas which for me are:

• Approaching camp forlorn hope
  
• Camp Mch---err. the airport area when entering through the right side doors

and various other areas. The game is running smooth so far with flying colors, it seems your suggestion may have worked! Best part is: I can still play with auto-saves, music and etc. I did change my hub colors too, back to green. I am now on the final NCR quest, but stopped it's progression to do all the side-quests. So far from start to finish I've had 0 freezes.
Just wanted to say thanks and note it on here for others.

Yea. I think the only thing being learned here is that enough hype will get you $.

I'm definitely not going to be buying any dlc for this title (I remember how quickly F3 went downhill with dlc) and if enough other people are of the same attitude, maybe they'll get the picture.

To OP-
Thanks for the tips. I already tried clearing corrupt files and turning autosave off (really annoying to manually save that often though), but I haven't tried turning the music&radio off. I'm really sick of the 4 songs it was playing anyway.

I'm just curious if this will help solve localized freezing issues: my game always freezes at some point while in Forlorn Hope and I am completely unable to take the road from Sloan to Black Mountain without the game crashing.

a few other players and I noticed a lot less freezing after doing the suggestions, yes, but at the same time others haven't had any luck. I'd give it a try, but unfortunately it's not a guarantee.

I've tried a few of these things to no avail, will try doing all at once.
I started a new game after the 1.02 patch and it only froze once or twice between 0 and 20 hours but since then it's frozen 3 times today alone

has your file size gotten to 8-10MB? (1024 KB in 1 MB) if so, this is probably the problem. large save files have been known to be more "freeze prone" then starting a game from scratch. unfortunately, a large file size is needed to complete the game...making it kind of unplayable.

bump

most of the time I play offline and still having problems. Also most of the time the radio is turned off ... I think hard for me to ignore the radio and music that they are part of the game's atmosphere, the tip of the autosave and saving whenever you can count, but in fact all are valid exept the tip of the radio and in-game music, another thing I noticed that savefile larger than 1MB as you said before is more trouble .... well my already reached 5 MB and I try to create a new savefile but ends up having the same size as What do I do?

larger than 1 MB? it's going to be at least 3 MB, if its a new game(it could be even bigger than 3). I think on the system it comes up in KB(approx.1024 KB=1 MB), so a new game would be like 3000-4000 KB, I think, but when it starts getting up to 7-10 MB, or 7000-10000 KB that's when it freezes up a lot.

a new save file won't make it any smaller. I meant starting a new game.

have you tried restoring the file system? nothing to lose, unless your save is corrupt, but you wouldn't be able to play it all if it were. I'd give it a shot, google "PS3 forums safe mode". make sure you restore file system only.

i'll give it a try, thanks again

no problem. just keep in mind it's not a for sure thing, so please don't try and blame me for wasting your time if it doesn't work. the only reason I suggested it was because it helped not only me but a few other players.

well... doesn't work :/ ....must have a way to fix this using an update ... they did with fallout 3 why not on new Vegas?

yeah, thing is Fallout 3 didn't have as much complicated programming(ex. NV has multiple story paths, whereas F3 was linear) and a lot of people did and still are(I included) experiencing freezing with F3. not as bad as NV, of course, but I had many saved games end up becoming unplayable. I could be wrong, but I just think that they've kind of pushed us aside for now. there too busy to fix their own product, apparently.


also, as long as Gamebryo is used (which it won't be for future titles) the game is bound to freeze up and give you hassle. unless they strip NV of it's core and implement skyrims engine in some crazy 500 GB patch that completely changes NV, we're stuck with it.

They should've waited and made Fallout New Vegas With Skyrims engine the Creation engine.
Then the game would be perfect.

here in my playstation the game simply crashes before 30min of gameplay! this is absurd in both NV and 3, they have to do something, fu ** they do not even say "we're busy now *****" they leave us here with nothing ...we should do the same => http://www.gamerevolution.com/manifesto/ps3-codblack-ops-buyers-want-their-money-back-3249

Edit: if they at least express themselves about the problem, would be a start, but....