Drunk people feel entitled to behave in any manner they like to and then just blame it on being drunk. Sober people should not have to move away from drinking people, it's drinking people who think they can do anything when drunk that should move away from sober people. And often sober people have no choice in where they stay so then people who intend to drink should just skip it.

I don't ever care about what people do to themselves. But when you intend to ruin the day for someone else through your selfish activities then I'm against it. I can have a good time just fine without intoxicating myself bothering others who are having a good time. And so should other people be able to. If people could drink and just keep to themselves as experience has taught me they can't then it would be fine.

Yup! I was drunk last night!

There's a bar here that, all summer, does Tuesday night Dollar Night where Bud Lights, Rum and Cokes and Dewey Devils (delicious, alcoholic, frozen drink) are all a dollar. Last night was the last one until next year, so my friends and I made sort of a celebration out of it.

Anything with alcohol in it.

Actually that's a lie, those really fruity girly drinks taste nice but...

I'm 16 so I'm just an innocent little flower (Until proven otherwise) :angel:

so if you're in a bar and people are being drunk they should be the ones to go away?

What places/social situations exactly are you talking about? It's just that if I go out drinking with friends, we tend to go to places where alcohol is served (or round each other's houses), where I supposed it's implied that the people there will be drinking.

Same here.

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Raised the "European" way, even though I grew up in America - no particular stigma attached to alcohol, my sister and I were allowed a bit of wine with fancy meals or were allowed to taste the cocktails our parents were drinking, etc, from a young age. Allowed us to make our own decisions about alcohol rather than the whole "It's some mystical special taboo thing you must sneak and hide from your parents, until you're 18/21 and MAGICALLY are now able to handle responsibly!" thing. :tongue:

Which made it a bit easier to ignore silliness like peer pressure and realize that I can't stand the stuff. As it is, I drink a small glass of champagne at New Years (that stuff is vile), and sometimes toss a bit of Creme de Menthe in hot chocolate or over ice cream (for the mint. Could care less about the booze part. )

So yeah... I'm 40, been to both undergrad and graduate school, and never been drunk. (Didn't really do parties at school, though - the whole loud music / big crowds / frat & dance club scene was never terribly attractive. Weekend nights were spent playing tabletop games with friends, not getting smashed with idiots. :tongue:)

Never have. Will I in the future? Probably. I'm not a fan of alcohol, though. The most I've ever consumed is two shots of tequila at my sister's wedding. It wasn't bad, but I wouldn't take shot after shot after shot like some people do.

I think a bar would count as a place where people generally accept being around drunk people, honestly you didn't think I meant bars did you ? I'm talking about general locations, not locations specifically created to host drunk people.

But even then drunk people tend to take it outside of bars breaking other peoples property =.=, so all in all it would be best if they just kept to themselves. But I guess bars are fine, has to be some place for people who like getting drunk I guess.



Again then you're going out with friends and if said houses are detached from other houses. But have you ever had to attempt to quiet down a bunch of partying drunk people who are keeping you up at night ? Also other places where people tend to get drunk around others who don't intend to include but are not excluded to summer houses, festivals, fares (Airplanes in particular), your house if you don't live alone and more.

Just generally speaking I've had enough of drunken people putting a bad mark on most any occasions of celebration or any trip. I haven't had fun at new years eve since 2002 which was the one and only time I didn't spend it with my family.

Tequila is naaasty. I like red wine myself - yummy!

it sounds like you just know terrible people if this is what you think all drunk people do

Bars are specifically created to host drinking people, not necessarily drunk people. You seem to have a problem separating the two.

Yeah, I'm actually partial to various wines myself. The tequila didn't disgust me, but it was basically just straight alcohol. I much prefer something with a distinguished flavor.

Your 18, you haven't been to the town on a Saturday night, been into the club/pubs so you can't say your experienced in the manner, maybe you've been around a few drunken family member who can be annoying and this can speak for almost everyone, or maybe a few friends but that doesn't qualify you to say your experienced in how drunken people conduct themselves.
If a drunken person is walking towards you when your on your way home, note said person could be on many stages of drunkness we'll assume their in their own world drunk, and (s)hes singing happily to themselves and staggering side to side along the pavement, who should move out of whos way?
Should that drunk be aware of your presense as much as your are of his/hers and move out of your way or should you being the sober and "responsible" one move out of the drunks way ?

I've actually never been drunk, of course the fact that I've never had any alcohol either may have something to do with it.

Honestly, a person in that condition (staggering down the road) either needs to be helped home or run in for public drunkenness. You certainly shouldn't just let them wander by.... who knows what could happen, they could fall into the street, hurt themselves, get mugged, etc.

True. I've been drunk loads of times, and I've never damaged someone's property or started a fight or all that other stuff drunk people are blamed of doing all the time. It's the same in general with "the yoof of today" - people seem to take the worst type of people and then decide that they are representative of everyone in their group.

I've gotten completely [censored] housed a few times. I don't really care to drink to that level on purpose. Sometimes it happens playing games. Sometimes I drink just enough to feel it and then slow down. I only care for a few types of beers anyways and most parties have crap beer.

Of course, it was a weekly thing back a year or two ago. Now I rarely get drunk, only because I value my fitness level. If I go to a party or a club if I'm not tipsy or on a similar level of intoxication then it won't be very fun.

Thats true but would but would Ellert see this a time to be a good person or a time to look down on the drunk.
Usually the drunks I see staggering around are againist walls, using them for support while trying to support themselves on 2 feet, some drunks prefer to take themselves home instead of having someone interfer and usually thats why the police take them to the cells because some people don't like help and get aggressive when their requests to be left alone are ignored, some drunks could also look peaceful (lightly used) but when you appraoch them unexpectantly they can turn hostile and this usually results in drunken assualts on randomers...The safest thing would be to ask from a distance if the want help or just ignore and avoid them.

When I was younger my goal was to get drunk, cause at the time it was fun. Now, when I drink, I drink to catch a buzz, cause after years of first hand study on the subject, hangovers svck Thats a scientific fact.

I've noticed that people who do drink often become violent and aggressive around people who don't drink.

Not a fan of beer(Haven't had any I liked)

Some wines are ok. The only alcohol I've ever liked was a screwdriver.(Just the right combination of orange and burning)

I've never been drunk though. Never even felt buzzed.

And people who are drinking end up being ? I didn't know there was a need to separate the two.




Well I'd move out of the way the same way I'd pass any non drunken people. It's if the person feels a need to stop to 'chat' or what-else that bothers me.

And perhaps you're right about me mostly being around mean drunks but when you don't know many non-mean drunks (I think the ratio is somewhere around 1:20, the only one in my family, then including uncles and grandparents and such, would be my grandma in my mothers leg of the family) then you end up at the conclusion that most people are mean drunks.

If it's something special with my family having an especially bad tolerance (which I doubt, I mean there isn't really a gene that decides what kind of a drunk you are is there ?) then I better not drink anyway. And I still have plenty of bad experiences with drunks outside of my family. Sometimes it's just people being plain annoying like one time where a bunch of drunken football fans wouldn't let me leave for 20 minutes until they had spoken to me about their team, sometimes it's more dangerous like one time when a guy charged at me because he thought I was looking at his girl, sometimes it's really dangerous like one time when a drunken guy set his dogs on me cos I was petting a cat and sometimes it's plain creepy like when an old dude tried to hit on me when I had long hair, and I'm male...

Anyway I'm leaving this conversation I think. Getting the vibe that I have very specific experiences with drunks that most don't have but it doesn't change that I hate drunk people and I will never drink, ever.

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Heck, a drunk leaning against a wall is nothing. I would not look up at him for being drunk but I wouldn't look down on him if he left me alone. Someone that harmless is pretty neutral.

I've never noticed this.

Same.

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@ Ellert: You need to wind down, drink a lot of alcohol will be your remedy.