How can I win this argument? : Othor Games

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:07 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10

You Americans, honestly! Its not hard!

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:50 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10

You Americans, honestly! Its not hard!

He's Australian apparently which is equally bad since both countries were formed by people from each of these countries :facepalm:

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:45 am

Your talking about some one who has remembered every country and it's situation geographically every capital and it's location within the nation and every flag. I top every geography assignment given.

And here you are using "your" incorrectly in the place of "you're", and "it's" incorrectly in the place of "its", twice. Not exactly a credibility booster. And you're stating you're the best in geography, but you're asking us for evidence to a claim you make, whereas it should make sense that if there's proof to be had, it might be handy if you, the MASTER OF GEOGRAPHY, bring it with you.

Only way you can still 'win' your argument is if you bend over and present your butt to your friend for a nice hard kick.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:10 am

statement retracted

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:21 am

And here you are using "your" incorrectly in the place of "you're", and "it's" incorrectly in the place of "its", twice. Not exactly a credibility booster. And you're stating you're the best in geography, but you're asking us for evidence to a claim you make, whereas it should make sense that if there's proof to be had, it might be handy if you, the MASTER OF GEOGRAPHY, bring it with you.

Only way you can still 'win' your argument is if you bend over and present your butt to your friend for a nice hard kick.

I never said I was the master of grammar did I.

I'm looking for more evidence because everything I say to convince my friend, he won't believe. I was hoping to get something else I may have missed.

I think the word nation is better in this case rather than country. Find somewhere where it says the "nation of Scotland"

Or even better- the UN member, sovereign independent nation of Scotland.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:44 am

I'm British actually, I live in Australia, we immigrated when I was 14 but I am still a British Citizen. I know you couldn't have known this what are you talking about? That sentence doesn't make sense to me. If you mean Australians have no idea about the geography of the UK, your wrong. I have many Australian friends and they all know the geography of the UK.

He was talking about OP. :facepalm:

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:37 am

I'm British actually, I live in Australia, we immigrated when I was 14 but I am still a British Citizen. I know you couldn't have known this what are you talking about? That sentence doesn't make sense to me. If you mean Australians have no idea about the geography of the UK, your wrong. I have many Australian friends and they all know the geography of the UK.

I meant the OP, not you.

I never said I was the master of grammar did I.

I'm looking for more evidence because everything I say to convince my friend, he won't believe. I was hoping to get something else I may have missed.

I think the word nation is better in this case rather than country. Find somewhere where it says the "nation of Scotland"

Your clearly ignoring all the evidence that YOU ARE WRONG. Not nation, country!

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:35 pm

I meant the OP, not you.

ah right ok, I apologize, got hot under the collar there.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:51 am

You should try putting up with someone that thinks your country isn't a country :rolleyes:

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:42 am

Because it seperated and those who didn't want to formed N.I and there has been many acts of violence to get the whole island to detach from Britain, the IRA for example on the R.o.Is side and the UDA/UVF on N.Is side. Each are as bad as the other.

its not that they didnt want to be seperate,northern ireland is the price we paid for our idependance,and many people view this as unacceptable,but i think freedom is worth
six counties

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:24 am

Scotland is a country... Isn't it? Now I'm confused.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:33 am

its not that they didnt want to be seperate,northern ireland is the price we paid for our idependance,and many people view this as unacceptable,but i think freedom is worth
six counties

I'm not sure about the going ons of Ireland and a lot of thats political territory, so we can't really get into it (?)

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:29 am

I never said I was the master of grammar did I.

Nope, you didn't. But claiming you're a man of high intellectual prowess in a post filled with grammar errors does take some of the punch out of your statement, yes?

And yeah, as pointed out, there is no evidence, because you are simply wrong.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:30 am

Well this is interesting.

Methinks it's a constituent country.

It's not an independent country like France, Italy etc. but it's also not not a country. BBC refers to Scotland as a country, as a credible news company you'd think they do their homework. "Country" probably has a much broader definition than what OP (and others, after a quick Google it's apparent he isn't the only one with this opinion!) are thinking of as "independent country". << I think.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:37 am

Away an bile yer heid ya numpty, ye dinnae ken whit yer talkin aboot.

Scotland is not a sovereign state (what you're probably thinking of as country), but is a country. Tasmania, on the other hand, simply does not exist.

EDIT: The Wiki article on Scotland is rated GA, so it should be pretty reliable.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:56 pm

Scotland is a country... Isn't it? Now I'm confused.

Yes. It. Is.

Basically for a country to be a country the 2 main things it needs to be properly considered is:

To be recognized by at least 1 UN member nation
Be a member of the UN.

Scotland I'm sure you will realize fits neither criteria.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:38 am

Yes. It. Is.

Basically for a country to be a country the 2 main things it needs to be properly considered is:

To be recognized by at least 1 UN member nation
Be a member of the UN.

Scotland I'm sure you will realize fits neither criteria.

Well, the only point I have in your favor is that when I went to Scotland, Wales, and England, I didn't need separate visas for each one. But I'm pretty sure they're still independent countries.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:14 am

Basically for a country to be a country the 2 main things it needs to be properly considered is:

To be recognized by at least 1 UN member nation
Be a member of the UN.

wat.

A country needs three things:
- borders
- a population
- recognition from other nations

Once it has that, it's a country. Scotland is recognized as a country by all nations (apart from the sovereign state of 5c3j9r7productions).

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:32 am

Scotland is a country... Isn't it? Now I'm confused.

Yes dear, it is. :nod:

OP, please just admit defeat!

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:33 am

Nope, you didn't. But claiming you're a man of high intellectual prowess in a post filled with grammar errors does take some of the punch out of your statement, yes?

And yeah, as pointed out, there is no evidence, because you are simply wrong.

I am a long way from being the smartest person in the world, but if there is one subject I know a lot about it's geography.

There is plenty of evidence you just choose to not hear the facts. Scotland is not a country.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:13 am

I want you to go to Scotland, say that out loud in a public place and film the results.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:17 am

Once it has that, it's a country. Scotland is recognized as a country by all nations (apart from the sovereign state of 5c3j9r7productions).

WTF. No country recognizes Scotland as independent. Where the hell did you hear that. Give me a source. In fact I don't need one. Scotland isn't recognized by anyone.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:16 pm

WTF. No country recognizes Scotland as independent.

Where in my post did it say 'independent'? Go on, where?

I am a long way from being the smartest person in the world, but if there is one subject I know a lot about it's geography.

Well, whether or not a region can be considered a country is really more of a politicological and historical question rather than a geographic one.

There is plenty of evidence you just choose to not hear the facts. Scotland is not a country.

If there is plenty of evidence, then why do you need us? Why do you not provide us with this evidence to prove you are right? Why did you not provide one bit of evidence as yet? All I see in this thread is a serious case of Ferrous Cranus.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:17 pm

EDIT: The Wiki article on Scotland is rated GA, so it should be pretty reliable.

My rule of thumb for using Wiki for reference is to check their sources listed at the bottom of the article. For example I found this one:
http://www.thecommonwealth.org/YearbookInternal/139598/geography/ in which clearly states Scotland is referred to as a country.

As I have said before, the problem here is that "country" might have different definitions depending on context, e.g. political, historical etc. Whatever category it slots into or doesn't slot into, it's referred to as a country in all situations I have come across and there is no changing that.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:30 am

wat.

A country needs three things:
- borders
- a population
- recognition from other nations

A large number of men willing to strip naked and charge people with spears helps a lot with the first and the third. Thousands of years ago, Scotland had plenty. Now'a'days? There's close to 2469407, when it comes to football or suggestions that England can boss them around

(offering suggestions that they may wish to follow is acceptable, I gather).

I am a long way from being the smartest person in the world, but if there is one subject I know a lot about it's geography.

There is plenty of evidence you just choose to not hear the facts. Scotland is not a country.

There is plenty of evidence you just choose to not hear the facts. Scotland is a country.