So my friend thinks Scotland is a country... :facepalm:

Nothing I say can convince him otherwise.

I need some strong evidence that can't be argued with.

A geography and/or history book?

WTF :brokencomputer:

You can't convince him otherwise because he is RIGHT Scotland is a country of its own. It, England, Wales and Northern Ireland unite to form the United Kingdom (Britain) but all of these named parties remain as seperate countries and are not all bound to the one flag (Union Jack)

What evidence do you actually have for it not being a country, since a quick google search of "Scotland" would put you in your place :confused:

Scotland IS a country. It always has been.

Just as Wales, England and Ireland are counties.

That they are classed as the United Kingdom or British Isles does not make them less.

Inncidently, hope you never meet a Scot if thats your opinion. There's a reason we built a wall to keep them North of the border.

Scotland has produced some of Histories toughest, nastiest and most brutal fighters.

Don't they all share the same currency, government, etc?

No, Scotland has the SNP just now <_< but the whole of Britain is governed by the Tories, each country has its own goverment but is overal controlled by the Tories.
The SNP is currently trying to get independance from the UK by the end of their term...they'll drag it on and win another vote because of these gulible people.

All the countries use the pound sterling apart from the Republic of Ireland as that is not part of the UK

Yes, thats true. But only because us English imposed rule over them. Plus all now have their own separate parliaments and can make 90% of everyday decisions that affect each contry separate from Westminster.

They are still classed as separate countries.

England is one country, Wales is another, Northern Ireland is another and Scotland is another. They make up the United Kingdom. But for some reason ACTUAL Ireland is excluded.

Because it seperated and those who didn't want to formed N.I and there has been many acts of violence to get the whole island to detach from Britain, the IRA for example on the R.o.Is side and the UDA/UVF on N.Is side. Each are as bad as the other.

Also I'd like to point out that Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom but NOT part of Great Britain. There is a difference between the two. Hence on your passport it refers to 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'.

lolwut

You're the one who needs a history book. :laugh:

WTF are you guys on about!

Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland are not sovereign independent United Nation members. The are the Kingdoms that make up the sovereign independent United Nation member that is officially the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". Great Britain being the Island on which Scotland England and Wales are situated on. Northern Ireland is mentioned separately in the official title due to it being geographically separate.

The nation of Ireland is in no way part of the UK.

ALMOST equivalent to, for example, USA's states or Australia's states

No other nation on earth recognizes them as independent. Nor are there any major independence movements within the kingdoms.

My friend also believes that Scotland has a president. Which you cannot argue is true seeing as the UK is under the Commonwealth.

OP failed history + geography classes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland Read the first line, actually read the whole thing then read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain

Go to any of those countries and say that they aren't countries, you'll be carried home in a stretcher!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10 video should help you OP, it explains that the UK is a "country of countries". While every country may not be strictly independent, they're still countries.

Your talking about some one who has remembered every country and it's situation geographically every capital and it's location within the nation and every flag. I top every geography assignment given.

Go on Wikipedia, read the first line on Scotland. B)



I bet you don't know the capital city of Malta. You can always check wikipedia of course, so I can never know.

...it has nothing to do with being a nation state. Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Island are separate countries in the same way that individual pacific islands are part of the Sovereignty of New Zealand, but are all seperate countries.

From wikipedia:

I may just do that. Stand in the middle of Edinburgh, preaching about how their "Country" isn't really a country.

You'll be eaten alive, and we'll all be here, eating popcorn.

Yeah, I know the capital of Malta. Valletta. Of course as you pointed out, I could have just searched that. :shrug:

And Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia that can be edited by anyone, isn't a credible source.

Most sovereign pacific island nations were not given independence by New Zealand. Mostly by the USA, UK or Australia.

If you're lucky

In some places up t'north, 'Stitch that, Jimmy!' is a greeting.

You would not leave Scotland or England if you walked in and said they weren't countries :whoops:

Read my post and actually look at what it said...

Scotland is a country that is part of the United Kingdom. Occupying the northern third of the island of Great Britain, it shares a border with England to the south and is bounded by the North Sea to the east, the Atlantic Ocean to the north and west, and the North Channel and Irish Sea to the southwest. In addition to the mainland, Scotland includes over 790 islands including the Northern Isles and the Hebrides.

Edinburgh, the country's capital and second largest city, is one of Europe's largest financial centres.....
On 1 May 1707, Scotland entered into an incorporating political union with England to create the united Kingdom of Great Britain. This union resulted from the Treaty of Union agreed in 1706 and enacted by the twin Acts of Union passed by the Parliaments of both countries, despite widespread protest across Scotland.

We also have a different Law System to England and the rest of the UK.........OP fails Brittish history.
For someone whos ancestors possibly originated from here as criminals your not good at remembering your family origins (granted that the ancestors were from here)

How about the http://www.loc.gov/law/help/uk.php




Not sure what you're trying to say, NZ still has sovereignty of many Pacific Island nations, and New Zealand itself is ruled by The Crown (not the same as being part of The Commonwealt btw). Most Pacific Island's remain colonies of other nations but that doesn't make them not countries.

Well you haven't remembered that Scotland is a country so stop trying to act clever.

Facts:

Scotland is a Country
Edinburgh is its capital
Glasgow is its largest city

And Scotland has its own flag:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Scotland