How can I win this argument? : Othor Games

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:23 pm

As I keep saying, the problem here is that COUNTRY seems to be a word with different definitions depending on context. See most other posts in this thread for examples and reasons.

When it comes down to it, Scotland is called a country, by whatever definition. The UN definition is purely political.

Ergo, OP is neither right nor wrong, nor is his friend. Just go by what everyone calls it.

Exactly...

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:32 pm

You're willing to accept a crappy article from About.com but not The Library of Congress...?

I wish Dogsbody were still around

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:55 pm

Exactly...

And most people, whether us commoners or our government*, call it a country.

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» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:08 pm

As I keep saying, the problem here is that COUNTRY seems to be a word with different definitions depending on context.

No it's not. Yes, words can be interpreted in other ways than their denotation, but if the discussion is if X or Y constitutes Z, then the denotation of Z is used, not its possible connotations - in this case, Scotland is a country, according to the denotation of the word 'country'.

Ergo, OP is neither right nor wrong, nor is his friend.

OP is 100% completely wrong, Aila. Not just that, he refuses to see or acknowledge all evidence to the contrary. I appreciate you trying to hold the middle ground, but your efforts are misplaced in this case.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:45 pm

I've seen the UK being referred to as a sovereign state, yeh. To be honest it's all a bit confusing, not really sure there is a 100% correct answer to this thread really

Personally, I'd go with the option that isn't going to piss off pissed Scots* :laugh:.

*This may seem like a tautology, but they can manage to be even more pissed (in both senses) than their baseline

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No offence taken?

You just contradicted yourself by saying they are under the UK

Since when does having a flag and a population and being listed in the atlas make it a country. Is [censored] Alabama a country? No.

Try telling that to Norway, France, Poland...

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:14 pm

Exactly...It's a country.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:04 am

I think this needs looking at.

Edit: Whether the OP was here to cause problems and arguments it certainly has. This is staying closed as I have had to edit a number of posts. It seems that there are some of you who are unable to discuss a topic without resorting to personal attacks.

..... and there are those members who want to include discussion of politics and religion in CD? :rolleyes: