But you must admit there are a lot of illuminati Symbology as well(Mages college, Thieves guild logo, Wolf queen altar (Wolfskull cave), Black sac ritual etc.) Is this all just all just innocent harmless game content?

It is innocent because the Illuminati do not exist. They once existed, but not anymore. It is harmless because it cannot harm you.

And that's irrelevant because it's made clear that people under 18 shouldn't play this game, so if it scars them for life...only the parents are to blame.

I hope your right Alikah (about the Illuminati).

One more thing I must add is this date 11.11.11 the day this game was released

Yeah. They chose that date to attract sales because it's flashy. Just taking a look at the bug forums and the patch thread show that Bethesda would rather have had sales brought in by shock value rather than releasing a functional product. But...that's another topic.

I need to sign off now (lunch break is over) However I must say you are one knowledgeable and interesting girl Alikah

Oh dear, who let the guy in the tinfoil hat in? Besides, we all know the developers of TES are all occultists who sacrifice a few virgins before every release of a new game to guarantee success. And they obviously have ties to the Illumnati, the Free Masons and the Church of Anton LaVey. All the demons in the game are modelled from actual demons that they conjure up in their basemant. Sigh, I love those evil bastards. Wish I could get a job there.

Anyway, using soulgems is not as bad as it sounds. Yes you do trap something or someone's soul in a crystal. However, when you enchant or recharge an item you are actually freeing the trapped soul and the energy that is generated by freeing the soul is what is used in the enchantment, not the soul itself. Well, that's what I tell myself anyway.

Except in daggerfall, your magic item breaks and an angry soul comes out to smack you.

Or is that a confirmed retcon ?

Perhaps their spirit haunts the item because of them being used in this manner? That is the other interesting question. In most earth cultures there is a clear distinction between spirit and soul with spirit usually being tied to awareness and soul tied to some form of afterlife. Does this translate into the TES universe? And if so, what then becomes of the spirit while the soul is trapped?

You need to get a clue ak How about we enchant your soul for a [censored] then we'll see what becomes of your spirit

The faint screams eminating from the gems once filled warms my heart.

I actually miss the days of Morrowind when you could actually look at the soul gems in your inventory and see your "collection".

There was nothing like seeing...

- Grand Soul Gem (Wood Elf)

in your inventory.

So... why is it the most stable and least buggy of all TES games at launch if it's "Rushed"?

Sometimes it is. but without getting into a philosophical debate about it (have had many of those!), there is no morality attached to the act of killing - the moral question enters into the fray when we start talking about intent and of course, context is paramount.

The thing is that many people tend to think in absolutes, X is wrong / X is right', when we don't exist in a world of absolutes - almost everything falls into gray areas. Perhaps this applies to the world of ES as well.

I'm not sure about the lore regarding afterlife or the power within soulgems.
Can someone enlight me?

Lol. So finding nothing to rebut in my original statement you decided to forego the niceties and reply with all the flair and panache of a teenager? Smooth. Real smooth.

I guess it is kind of f-ed up, if you're playing a character who's trying to hold himself to an unrealistic moral standard that throws away all sense of practicality.

I'm so use to it now that I don't even notice it anymore.....well, that is until you said something.

I will love Hell, and their tormenting Fire Daedra spanking me for being a bad guy..

Maybe, if you believe in "souls"

Ye, the fact that your soul wouldnt go to the afterlife but instead would stay in a gem for someone who was your enemy to use isnt a great thought

And you would become any object they wished.

I still haven't seen anything that determines whether Soul Trap explicitly captures the consciousness of the victim, or whether it merely captures some energy from the soul as it leaves the body.

Personally, I think it captures their energy. If it's a human/Mer/beast (or possibly an important creature) the soul itself could be bound to/owned by a Daedra Lord. Unlike the original owner, I don't think a Daedra Lord would like you capturing a soul that is meant to be theirs.

What's the matter petal do I detect a slight case of mommy not telling you "your special" anymore. You need to grow some ak. Go slay some (TROLLS) you'll feel better about yourself