NonNord Dovakhiin

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:24 pm

I don't see why Nords could only be Dragonborn.
So no, I don't feel any weird at all about being a bosmer or an orc that is the Dragonborn.
On the other hand I did feel weird about siding with the Stormcloaks as a Bosmer..

My character had to switch sides after Galmar's comments about King Borgas, who really just got what was coming to him.
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Ridhwan Hemsome
 
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:02 am

Pshawww, An Argonian Dovahkiin is awesome, I mean I already look like a dragon...kind of. I have no problem accepting Dovahkiins of other races. :D
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:32 am

Pshawww, An Argonian Dovahkiin is awesome, I mean I already look like a dragon...kind of. I have no problem accepting Dovahkiins of other races. :biggrin:

Aside from my penchant towards the saurian denizens of Black Marsh, an Argonian makes sense to me for the same reason.
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Judy Lynch
 
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:09 am

no
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Taylor Tifany
 
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:57 pm

I think it's less important which race the Dragonborn is from, since his/her power comes from the divines and those watch over them all.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:02 pm

Being born with the soul of a dragon doesn't sound particularly race specific. My guess is that Akatosh would give that gift to whomever would get the job done. My guy is an Orc, and it doesn't feel odd to be using Thu'um. I'm sure anyone could learn it naturally given the patience and training, its just that it exists intwined with Nordic culture, so most other races never get the opportunity.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:34 pm

I think the Hero of Skyrim should be a nord dragonborn, but a dragonborn can be any race and suite it just fine. I believe Nerevar was dragonborn and he was a chimer/ancient dunmer. I think the guy we see behind the forums is just how I think the hero of skyrim looks like. I play as the hero on my first playthrough with the race of the land we're in and then move on to my main character and other races that have nothing to do with the dragonborn. I just don't feel like RP'ing the hero in TES games, because I feel they are something that someone created and there will be thousand of version of that character. I'd rather make a fan-fictional character that fits in somewhere in the story of the hero. ....This became a long and weird text that probably had nothing to do with OP's thoughts, but I'll leave it here for...something
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:44 pm

I just wish there was some more reaction to the non-Nord Dragonborn. Nords, especially hardcoe Stormcloak sympathizers, should be downright insulted that my Dunmer is walking around unleashing Thu'um when he feels like it.
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Tyrone Haywood
 
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:44 pm

Well, at least there isn't a Sload Dovakiin.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sload
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:08 pm

I think of all the races, Argonian makes the most sense as Dohvahkin--after all, what is a dragon but an overgrown Lizard? However, the character I have doing the main quest is an orc, and if those narrow minded Nords don't like it, too bad.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:24 am

I just wish there was some more reaction to the non-Nord Dragonborn. Nords, especially hardcoe Stormcloak sympathizers, should be downright insulted that my Dunmer is walking around unleashing Thu'um when he feels like it.

Same, I was hoping to walk up in High Hrothgar as a pompous Altmer DragonBorn, with all the intention of undermining the Nords as a Thalmor Sympathyzer and mocking their name.



The game did not support my RP intent.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:05 am

haha.. thanks for reminding me of that
Yes, my grandmother akes a point of that everytime I see her.
Annyways... the dragonborn should be a human only ability.
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Jessica Nash
 
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:31 pm

My Dragonborn is breton. But I created him with a distinct nordish look so I'm sure when they chronicle his tales he'll be transformed into a nord and nobody will know the better.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:43 pm

I agree I feel weird doing the main quest as another race. I think it's mainly because when we think Dovakiin, we think the big, hardy Nord, wearing the Iron Horned Helmet from the pre-release trailers.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:06 am

My Dragonborn is breton. But I created him with a distinct nordish look so I'm sure when they chronicle his tales he'll be transformed into a nord and nobody will know the better.

Like how Martin Septim singlehandedly stopped the Siege of Kvatch in nothing but his robes and a cudgel in hand. Then suddenly discovering he was Heir Apparent, only to sacrifice himself after crushing so many gates one by one.

edit-- to add, I'd bet Ralof/Hadvar will be who people think was Dovahkiin, give or take several centuries. Hoho
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:27 pm

The return of The World Eater, and the Dragonborn, we're foretold by the Elder Scrolls. The Scrolls are not race specific so why should their prophecies be?
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Sara Lee
 
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:51 pm

Nope, my Argonian feels just fine.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:22 pm

A dragonborn is simply a person with the soul of a dragon. This gift is given by Akatosh

Akatosh created all races, so any race can have this gift.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:03 pm

The Dovakiin and the Thu'um may be important to Nord culture but they do not "belong" to the Nords, they "belong" to the Gods who created all of the beings that inhabit Nirn. This should be obvious by the fact that any race can be Dovakiin, seemingly chosen by the Gods themselves, and that anyone, with intense training can learn the ways of the Voice. It may be weird to you that an Argonian or Khajiit can be Dragon born, which is looked on upon as a human concept but you must look at it from the perspective of the world in which they exist.

Daedra are not gods, they are god-like beings in the realm of Oblivion. Dunmer were created by Boethiah and Orsimer were created by her devouring of Trinimac, who then became Malacath and transformed a race of Mer into todays Orcs. Khajiit were wood elves that were cursed and Argonians came from a dinosaur-tree.
That, IMO makes the role of Dovahkiin only fillable by (in descending order)

Nord
Imperial
Breton
Redguard (MAYBE, as their lineage is completely detached from the other races of Man)

I don't understand how an Altmer would be Dragonborn nor a Bosmer, but this is just my opinion and it is possible to roleplay any type of Dovahkiin, which is good, as there would be some meg nerd-raging if you could only be human (I'm looking at you, BIOWARE!)
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:30 pm

The Daedra are just as much gods as the Divines are, they just didn't help create mundus. Boethiah did not create the Dunmer, he only taught them to be different from the other elves, he helped shape their culture, he didn't bring them into being. The same is true of all your other examples you give, at best you show examples of Daedra changing already existing creatures, they didn't create any of them.

The divines are not for Men only, they can and are worshiped by the other races as well and are linked to them just the same. Plus we've already seen an Mer dragonborn in Oblivion, and the Nerevarine is called "Dragonborn" in the prophesies (though that could have had a completely different meaning in those) add to that that your char can be of any race and will still be the Dovahkiin, shows that Dragon born can come from any mortal race.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:53 pm

Daedra are not gods, they are god-like beings in the realm of Oblivion. Dunmer were created by Boethiah and Orsimer were created by her devouring of Trinimac, who then became Malacath and transformed a race of Mer into todays Orcs. Khajiit were wood elves that were cursed and Argonians came from a dinosaur-tree.
That, IMO makes the role of Dovahkiin only fillable by (in descending order)

Nord
Imperial
Breton
Redguard (MAYBE, as their lineage is completely detached from the other races of Man)

I don't understand how an Altmer would be Dragonborn nor a Bosmer, but this is just my opinion and it is possible to roleplay any type of Dovahkiin, which is good, as there would be some meg nerd-raging if you could only be human (I'm looking at you, BIOWARE!)
I was not referring to the Daedra but the Nine Divines. For all intents and purposes the Daedra are Gods, the only thing really differentiating them from the Divines is the creation of Nirn. The term "God" means different things to different people both in real life and in the game itself. In this context I think the phrase "god-like beings in the realm of Oblivion" means to acquaint the player with the lore and separate our view of gods from the ones in The Elder Scrolls as well as the Divines. Regardless, all Daedra and Divines stem from the same source/origin and are all powerful celestial beings capable of phenomenal feats of change/creation. AKA by some: Gods.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:41 am

Oh... so being a cat with the soul of a dragon is somehow worse than being a hairless ape with the soul of a dragon... >_>

/bizarro logic
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:50 am

Then don't start the MQ. I only have two dragonborn characters, an imperial and a nord. My Dark Elf, Khajiit and High Elves are just normal mortals. ( as normal as one can be on Nirn, atleast. )
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:22 am

It seems most ES games has a pre-preferred race that would fit better as main protagonist. Morrowind had the nerevarine and the race selection starts with a dunmer face. Oblivion had an Imperial on most of artwork and as 1st selection choice.. And skyrim advertisemant is practically all Nord. I know The reasons are because of the geological area concerned, but the character creation race selection could have been alphabatized instead. Obviously these are meant to be the 'protagonists' of the game
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:32 pm

Don't see the problem, i have a harder time making a stealth or pure mage dragonborn than picking a non nord race.
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