2v2 balance has always been a pure mess, and if they try to balance the game around that the other aspects would suffer too much from it. WoW was simply not made with 2v2 arena PvP in mind, if you want that to work well you basicly need a completely different game with homogenized classes. I like Cataclysm PvP way more than WotLK, overall it's less bursty, it had new battlegrounds based on tried-and-true concepts that were actually fun as opposed to Strand/Isle, along with the addition of rated BGs so arenas is not the only "real" way of PvP progression.

I disagree, Cataclysm PvP was a disaster in my opinion. It started off nice enough, but my class (Warrior) was ruined. (I understand 2v2 svcks btw, was just an example.)

The RBG fiasco is what eventually made me quit. They were a nice change at the start, but soon became a major crapfest, WSG and TP was all about stacking healers on your Prot Warrior while BfG was all about AoEing the flags. To make it worse Alliance had a terrible headstart in BfG which made it hell for Horde players, especially if you're up against Hydramist and the likes of that.
My guild and I facerolled to 2400 without any effort or rating loss whatsoever due to the crappy MMR system, then I got bored while lots of my guildies went on to easily achieve the top 0.5% thingie.

But this I could live with, I'm not petty enough to dismiss it because it makes gearing "easier" (there was still a major time investment) like a lot of people. It just started getting terrible in S10, where you HAD to do RBGs every week to get your full conquest points cap. This is something I simply didn't want to do, I was fed up with the relatively bad state of RBGs after playing a few hundred over all characters in S9.

The new BGs were pretty much the only good part about Cata PvP. Sure, they weren't exactly new, but WSG and AB have always been the kings of all BGs, and I played a few thousand of both those.
However the balance was long gone even in the most balanced bracket, 3v3. Remember KFC? Jesus that was a major disaster. Then TSG made its major comeback, it was simply hop on the bandwagon or enjoy a headache and Rival title...

I still spent a good amount of time hanging around Warcraftmovies and AJ after I quit to see if things would improve, but seeing setups with 2 mages and 2 rogues kill people in a matter of seconds convinced me it was no longer worth it.

Imo people are still gona find the most optimal dps/heal/tank build with new talents and cookie cutter will still be there.

My only reaction from seeing this trailer...

:rofl:

I'll post here what I posted in the WoW forums regarding the expansion.

I wonder why people think nobody cares about the people leaving. I've canceled my subscription twice in Wrath and both times I was asked by a GM to leave a post on the forums stating why. I don't know if that's changed, but I can say Blizzard used to care (and I'll assume they still do.)

I wonder why people think it's clever to say 'See you in a few months.' when the people quitting probably wont leave until the expansion is released. The current game seems to fit what they like, but the next expansion is what they dislike. Why would they leave now? That doesn't make sense.

I wonder how an 'I quit' post from me would go. I'm positive it'd be filled with trolls. I don't know if I'd get any serious responses other than people seriously happy I'm leaving. Instead, I'll post my reason for leaving here to see what happens.

I'll be quitting WoW before the next expansion because the next expansion is taking the game in a direction I don't find fun. I enjoy RPG's, specifically western RPG's. Eastern RPG's don't interest me as much (Though I have enjoyed a few of them, all single player.) I've been playing WoW on and off for about 4 years and for all of those years, the game was a western RPG. The next expansion seems to have a focus on eastern styles. I don't like that.

I'm not sure if any other MMO will take WoW's place, I hope so. Rift was okay, but it wasn't as good as WoW, so I wont be playing that. SWTOR looks a lot like Global Agenda, which I didn't care for, so I wont be playing that. GW2 looks pretty good, but I wasn't a fan of the original, so my hopes aren't high.

I don't care about the number of people still playing WoW, or who will continue to play WoW. I don't want Blizzard to go out of business. They're good for the economy. I don't want WoW to die either. I'm not quitting out of spite, that's stupid. I'll miss WoW. I wish they'd stick to western style.

*sadface*

Myth: TBC, WOTLK and Cata were all good expansions.


Fact: Everything svcked after TBC was announced.

I actually liked TBC and Wrath. I didn't mind cata, I actually liked going into raids with blues on from heroics and how difficult the heroics where at the start of cata. I enjoyed the environment change. I really just don't like the Pandaren race, I could deal with them in game as a race living on the new continent but playing as one just seems silly. I am fine with the monk class it honestly seems fun and I do very much like the new continent. I hate the new talents so far, picking one every 15 levels? I mean I know a lot of the spells and abilities that were in talent trees will be given to the classes now as just part of their class but I still as posted above don't see this removing cookie cutter in any way.

...I almost feel like buying diablo so I can get the beta key for mist of pandaria...is that terrible or what. I think Blizzard has my soul.

I disagree.

TBC was good all around, I just wasn't a fan of the setting and the new races. But I could sure as hell live with it and have fun.

WotLK was great for PvE with the exception of Naxxramas and ToC. WotLK was pretty ok for PvP after S5/6, besides the few faceroll comps.