I don't think length is such an issue, it's a matter of the quality of content.
Personally I didn't find a single one of the FO3 DLCs amazing. They were ok, but they gave you the sense of "meh" where it was something extra to do, but not something you were dying to do. Like I felt I had purchased them solely for the sake of having the complete game, not because I was actually DYING to have them.

The average FO3 DLC was probably...5 hours of length, the first playthrough? Playthroughs afterwards you complete the DLC quicker of course, but the first playthrough I'd say was 3-5 hours.
New Vegas, I think the average DLC length was 7-8 hours on the first playthrough. Longer, but really not that big of a difference. Honest Hearts for example was slightly longer than the FO3 counterparts, but I really don't consider it anything special. Lonesome Road was equal to the FO3 counterparts, but I found it totally worth my money. Dead Money was slightly longer, but it's easily the best DLC I've ever played; not due to length, but because of the story and the challenge.

So in the end, length doesn't matter so much; quality does.
I'm just amazed at all the people who haven't learned that a Todd Howard "10-20 hours" probably means "10 hours" and not to get their hopes up.

Yup! and now i will never ever play WoW again... unless they redeem their badddddd expansion with a bad ass one after that.

Let's keep in mind that before SI was released they released Nights of the Nine. I'd say that's a better comparison for Dawnguard.

I agree fully!

Only someone with Penitus envy would say size doesn't matter.

Zing!

I agree that Todd Howards just the company gum flapper.

However are you aware that Shivering isles was said to be only 30 hours?

However anyone who enjoyed it got an easy 100 out of the expansion pack.

Good lord first diablo 3 now giant pandas shall invade

Agreed, and that was what I was trying to get at.



That is where we are different. I opted out of FO3 dlc because I felt they were trying to just pump out a bunch of short dlcs for $20 each or what not. It felt too much like a cash cow and not trying to augment the game.

I couldnt agree more, Prime beta tester right here.

Why do they let him represent the company anyways?
Sure, maybe in the short-term, he brings in more customers, but in the long term he just turns into a joke that anyone with experience with the company won't take seriously or trust...



Are you aware you just quoted and complimented YOURSELF?

People are actually fighting over this DLC? Heck, fighting before it's even released...?

If it offends people that badly, don't spend your money on it. I won't lose any sleep over it whilst blotting out the sun and slaughtering the Dawnguard, and neither should anybody else. There's an oft-used internet expression that I believe would be most accurate here: "Haters gonna hate."

I personally cannot wait for this, I hope it they give the werewolf some new things. and I also hope the flying as a Lord Vampire is really flying and not just hovering..

I'd have to disagree. 10-20 hours would include exploring the landscape which would likely count for the lion's share of the content. I'd be quite happy if it was 10-20 hours of questing and dialogue, but i'm thinking it's more along the lines of Point Lookout.



I never understood that argument, 'if you don't like it don't do it.' Thats not what dissidents are agitated or disappointed about. They just compare the amount of perceived content to that of past expansion packs and deem it less than past experiences. 20$ is a bit meh for what we think we are getting, but at this point the only thing people have is speculation. We'll have to wait until the game is released until we actually can see.

10-20 hours and not two mention it's a two-sided story. This means that any semi-dedicated player will go through it again on the other side of the coin. Then most of them pick a favorite for their "Ultimate" character run-through. So this one DLC could potentially be another 30-60 hours of gameplay for the avid player...if it stacks up to the rest of Skyrim, then yes, it would most certainally be worth it.

The dlc should of been 1200 ms points at most imo. In terms of hard to design new content, We are getting very little.

Dont forget all these features were basically 90% done in the gamejam and only a small new landmass is being added. Dont get me wrong, Im grateful for the dlc, But I still havnt seen/heard anything thats worth the price.

I just hope it adds more to the game play aspect and replayability of Skyrim in general.

Have a fishystick new members!

http://images.uesp.net/c/c4/Fishystick.jpg

Explore what? The barren purple colored land of Soul Cairn? In the Game Informer article there were mentioned a few quests encountered there: the standard fed-ex stuff. I think everyone will agree that TES greatest strength lies in exploring the different lands, the caves and in the visuals.

It looks like Soul Cairn will be just another pocket Oblivion dimension with some random Fed-Ex quests thrown in for good measure. If that's the future of Bethesda DLCs, please bring back one single expansion pack like Shivering Islands / Bloodmoon

If I said I wasen't excited, I'd be lying. However, after promptly finishing as my future vampirelord and werewolf characters respectivly, I'll probably not play Skyrim again untill the new expansion comes out.

Even if the area was not much bigger than for an example Solitude, i would still take great pleasure svcking in
all the thousands of different details: sounds, textures, landscape, storylines, books, weapons, fighting, different characters
and so on, in an endless exploration that never needs to end.

Bethesda doesnt add many books in their dlc, You would be lucky getting 4 new books. Same with sounds. Fighting? thats obvious, comes with any content. Same with characters. Before you point out any of the old bad oblivion tiny dlc. This is 2012.

I'll be sneaking with my awesome crossbow, shooting them in the head, then eat their corpse, then throw them into the water muahahahaha

A little of this and a little of that, it makes me a very happy man.
Maby i'm not that hard to please in this 22nd century


Bad to the bone!

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