Enclave DLC?

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:29 pm

Actually high-level events of Tactics are canon, whilst the ending of tactics is not known it is known that the Calculator, Vault 0 and all that [censored] happened. The Enclave have outposts which repaired ED-E with [censored] licence plates. I can't tell whether you keep refering the the camps like that as some kind of insult so whatever, they were outposts far from Raven Rock or Navarro whilst it still exists and will have largely managed themselves and not relied on the main Enclave for supplies, given the distance and the Enclave's own need for secrecy. I see no reason why the Enclave is a powerhouse in Illios, especially given the state the Enclave was in in 2242 and the state which ED-E turned up in.



I believe ED-E's state can be explained by the quest, as well. ED-E was being developed with Duraframe alloy, but development was switched over to Hellfire Armor. I would think that outposts in Illinois would not have the same resources as their headquarters in the East or West. Furthermore, Eyebots were fairly common in the Capital Wasteland, so I see no reason why the higher ups in Chicago would have 1. the Duraframe to repair ED-E or 2. the care to repair a lowly eye-bot with expensive, power armor materials.

Additionally, even if I accept your hypothesis that they are outposts unconnected to the brass of the Enclave, the fact remains that there are multiple outposts within one city, which means the Enclave is not dead and there is still room for meeting the Enclave in future games. I'm looking at it optimistically. The Enclave were far more threatening than the Caesar's Legion, and far more interesting than Super Mutants (even led by The Master).
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:28 am

Actually high-level events of Tactics are canon, whilst the ending of tactics is not known it is known that the Calculator, Vault 0 and all that [censored] happened. The Enclave have outposts which repaired ED-E with [censored] licence plates. I can't tell whether you keep refering the the camps like that as some kind of insult so whatever, they were outposts far from Raven Rock or Navarro whilst it still exists and will have largely managed themselves and not relied on the main Enclave for supplies, given the distance and the Enclave's own need for secrecy. I see no reason why the Enclave is a powerhouse in Illios, especially given the state the Enclave was in in 2242 and the state which ED-E turned up in.

Well somebody has been eating there nutritious Enclave Bran flakes.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:34 am

I believe ED-E's state can be explained by the quest, as well. ED-E was being developed with Duraframe alloy, but development was switched over to Hellfire Armor. I would think that outposts in Illinois would not have the same resources as their headquarters in the East or West. Furthermore, Eyebots were fairly common in the Capital Wasteland, so I see no reason why the higher ups in Chicago would have 1. the Duraframe to repair ED-E or 2. the care to repair a lowly eye-bot with expensive, power armor materials.


Exactly, because they are outposts designed to perform a specific function, not huge self-sustaining command centers. I still refuse to believe that the best job the Enclave would do is bolt a few licence plates to the side of it. Besides, Eyebots have been confirmed - as of New Vegas - to not just being located in D.C. Gannon recognises them from Navarro as do the Followers and the Brotherhood; the Enclave uses them as scouts and I see little reason why the people at Chicago wouldn't have such basic tech.

Additionally, even if I accept your hypothesis that they are outposts unconnected to the brass of the Enclave, the fact remains that there are multiple outposts within one city, which means the Enclave is not dead and there is still room for meeting the Enclave in future games. I'm looking at it optimistically. The Enclave were far more threatening than the Caesar's Legion, and far more interesting than Super Mutants (even led by The Master).


Who's saying that they are dead? Of course they have an outpost in Chicago, my point is that such a base would not be able to survive on it's own genepool and would rapidly become something related to the Enclave in name only, of that. It depends on the outcome of F3, Bethesda being so loathed as to kill off the Enclave - even after Broken Steel - ended Take it Back by saying that the Enclave field posts wouldn't realise the destruction of their command center for months (seriously <_<) and that Lyon's wouldn't be surprised if the Enclave threatened the Capital Wasteland again one day.

I would personally hope that the Enclave abandon Chicago and find an un-opened Vault to hide in for several decades but that's just my own bias.
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