[Joe Alvarado]

PR guys arent responsible for what a company does they just take shots for it.

[jessica Villacis]

PR guys arent responsible for what a company does they just take shots for it.

That, and they're paid to clean up messy situations and keep their particular company looking good in the eyes of the public no matter what's taking place around it.

[Jessie Rae Brouillette]

That, and they're paid to clean up messy situations and keep their particular company looking good in the eyes of the public no matter what's taking place around it.

I don't think he's done so good necessarily.

You would think the PR would be more of a kiss ass to the consumers trying to ease them into being comfortable with the wait and stuff.

It's kind of his job to be patient with angry consumers. He's the scapegoat afterall.

[Chica Cheve]

WHY CAN'T THEY JUST COME OUT WITH A SKYRIM GOTY EDITION (WHICH WILL INCLUDE ALL DLC & BRING IT OUT FIRST FOR THE PS3? WE PS3 USERS HAVE WAITED TO DARN LONG FOR THESE EXPANSIONS & BETHESDA CONTINUES TO IGNORE US! IT'S RIDICULOUS! AND PLEASE, BETHESDA? COME OUT WITH THE GOTY FOR PS3 BEFORE THE XBOX & PC AND BRING IT OUT BEFORE THE END OF NOVEMBER THIS YEAR! I think I speak for all PS3 users on this (correct me if I'm wrong). AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY DO THIS, DON'T WORRY ABOUT FIXING THE BUGS (WELL, MAYBE FIX THE FILE MEMORY OPTIMIZATION, WHICH COULD BE A LOT BETTER, AND ALSO FIX THE LAG ISSUE IN THE GOTY).

[Zoe Ratcliffe]

^ They will need all of the dlc to be made for there to be a goty and it will be worst than the base game because it will be unlikey for beth to get down and do the work to fix every problem or at least a hugh majority of them.

[Susan Elizabeth]

yeah what the guy above me said

You'd need the DLC to actually be working to release it all xD

[Hayley O'Gara]

WHY CAN'T THEY JUST COME OUT WITH A SKYRIM GOTY EDITION (WHICH WILL INCLUDE ALL DLC & BRING IT OUT FIRST FOR THE PS3? WE PS3 USERS HAVE WAITED TO DARN LONG FOR THESE EXPANSIONS & BETHESDA CONTINUES TO IGNORE US! IT'S RIDICULOUS! AND PLEASE, BETHESDA? COME OUT WITH THE GOTY FOR PS3 BEFORE THE XBOX & PC AND BRING IT OUT BEFORE THE END OF NOVEMBER THIS YEAR! I think I speak for all PS3 users on this (correct me if I'm wrong). AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY DO THIS, DON'T WORRY ABOUT FIXING THE BUGS (WELL, MAYBE FIX THE FILE MEMORY OPTIMIZATION, WHICH COULD BE A LOT BETTER, AND ALSO FIX THE LAG ISSUE IN THE GOTY).

Skyrim's game of the year edition won't be out for a long time and it definitely won't be out this year. By long time I mean at least two years from now. They have to wait until they have all the DLCs out that they're going to release before they can put the GOTYE together. Plus, they will hold off releasing it for a while because they're not going to put that on store shelves right after they released the last of their add-ons with all of the DLC still on the market listed at full price. That's not a good marketing strategy. Also, Bethesda has always released the GOTY editions for all platforms at the same time just like when any of their other games come out.

[Red Bevinz]

Youtube AC3 they've added what looks like quite a bit since the first one. I preordered it yesterday so now I'm just waiting for a game that I know when will come out

I'm trying to get into AC3 but I'm finding it hard to swallow the American ra ra ra stuff. I don't dislike the States or anything, I just have an aversion to patriotism and I really can't get into a person of Native American heritage who is for some reason blindly devoted to fighting for them; especially in a series that revolves around templars and Assassins.

I don't know maybe once I see more gameplay my view will change, but as it stands it just seems to be an outlet to kill redcoats while saying murica &^%$ yeah!

[Marine x]

I'm trying to get into AC3 but I'm finding it hard to swallow the American ra ra ra stuff. I don't dislike the States or anything, I just have an aversion to patriotism and I really can't get into a person of Native American heritage who is for some reason blindly devoted to fighting for them; especially in a series that revolves around templars and Assassins.

I don't know maybe once I see more gameplay my view will change, but as it stands it just seems to be an outlet to kill redcoats while saying murica &^%$ yeah!

Well from my understanding he sympathizes with the colonists because his tribe was oppressed, so he sees the oppression being done to the colonists.

Also he is half british so it's in his blood, he is technically involved just by that.



And regardless of patriotism or not, it's a different day and age. The non existing America of then has nothing to do with the now.


Besides, I hear that you kill off some colonists as well since everyone is british, the templars are apparently scattered through both sides.

But I don't see the issue with fighting a war that took place in American history even if it is favoring the US. That'd be like not wanting to play CoD cause you're fighting as the US through most the story xD

And either way the game, it made assassins into heroes lol. Never have assassins been considered heroes really.
They were feared if anything.

It's already drastically skewed the history and ideas of the Templars and thrown them into a bad light, so, yeah I don't see why it'd be an issue xD


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyADEG_W5A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpBL-g9-Ss4

Some vids just to see


Of course its all your choice. I'm not trying to pressure you into buying AC3

I personally look forward to it.

[BRAD MONTGOMERY]

Yeah I have to agree. And also how is it if we get something exclusive or for less it is suddenly unfair. PC gets mods, Xbox got kinect and dlc support, and ps3 players got what? A very buggy, laggy game at launch and the possibility of never getting an expansion or dlc. The same problems occurred with Bethesda's previous games on the ps3 and it's unbelievable that this wasn't fully anticipated in the beginning. And what's worse is the fact that Bethesda blatantly lied to the Ps3 players when proclaiming how they gave the ps3 version more attention and the problems were addressed.

Exactly right, why should bethesda have put hearthfire as their top priority when dawnguard and skyrim for ps3 is being blatantly neglected? Microsoft payed for thirty day exclusivity for both dlcs but that didn't mean that bethesda should have released hearthfire so soon on xbox. Have they even considered what's going to happen with hearthfire on ps3?

I would even prefer if bethesda said there wasn't going to be ps3 dlc than to try and sell a half-hearted product to desperate fans.

[jess hughes]

I don't think he's done so good necessarily.

You would think the PR would be more of a kiss ass to the consumers trying to ease them into being comfortable with the wait and stuff.

It's kind of his job to be patient with angry consumers. He's the scapegoat afterall.

PR isn't about being a kiss ass to the consumers, it is about being an efficient liaison between the developer and the customer base. PR will have a mandate from the developer / publisher to inform the customer base about what is happening within limits and field questions from the customers and pass them up the chain for consideration if the PR decides it's necessary.

The PR should not spend it's time dismissing complaints and commenting that all is well when it's clearly not, nor should the PR inflame annoyed customers further by displaying a closed mindedness that thier opinion and perceptions can be the only correct ones. Being deliberately deceptive or dissemination of outright lies is also not a function of PR personnel.

Bethesda's PR has spent the majority of his time relating to paragraph 2 with Twitter comments that beggar belief at times and is already making his bed regarding Dishonoured and how well it plays on PS3, played at several expo's for many hours according to him - when only XBox setups were present and video even had XBox button prompts appearing.

Beth PR? - nonexistant under the definition of the title.

[Michelle Chau]

Sharing this because i find it hilarious. Since the 1.6/1.7 patch, i haven't had any slowdown or other major problem, but i have been getting humorous glitches. Like every every other time or so i mount Shadowmere, my character will stand at attention for a few seconds before adopting the now seated position in the saddle. And my favorite glitch thus far, which sadly included Shadowmere again, i just yesterday exit a barrow to find my steed locked in combat with not one but 2 Ancient Dragons, a bear, AND and Ice Troll. LOL, died before i could even unsheath my weapon, but i was laughing so hard i didn't even care.

Yeah after the latest patch i tryed the mounted combat which i was impressed with this was outside whiterun then i wanted a bit of fun so i turned into a werewolf and i turned but the elven sword i was holding before i turned it was still there as a werewolf , i didnt think the patch was for werewolf weopons looooool it was so funny

[Bereket Fekadu]

Well from my understanding he sympathizes with the colonists because his tribe was oppressed, so he sees the oppression being done to the colonists.

Also he is half british so it's in his blood, he is technically involved just by that.



And regardless of patriotism or not, it's a different day and age. The non existing America of then has nothing to do with the now.


Besides, I hear that you kill off some colonists as well since everyone is british, the templars are apparently scattered through both sides.

But I don't see the issue with fighting a war that took place in American history even if it is favoring the US. That'd be like not wanting to play CoD cause you're fighting as the US through most the story xD

And either way the game, it made assassins into heroes lol. Never have assassins been considered heroes really.
They were feared if anything.

It's already drastically skewed the history and ideas of the Templars and thrown them into a bad light, so, yeah I don't see why it'd be an issue xD

It is an issue because most of the population is ignorant, so throwing factions into a bad light and basically rewriting history is inciting contempt. Most people don't even know what a templar is.

[Nikki Hype]

PR isn't about being a kiss ass to the consumers, it is about being an efficient liaison between the developer and the customer base. PR will have a mandate from the developer / publisher to inform the customer base about what is happening within limits and field questions from the customers and pass them up the chain for consideration if the PR decides it's necessary. The PR should not spend it's time dismissing complaints and commenting that all is well when it's clearly not, nor should the PR inflame annoyed customers further by displaying a closed mindedness that thier opinion and perceptions can be the only correct ones. Being deliberately deceptive or dissemination of outright lies is also not a function of PR personnel. Bethesda's PR has spent the majority of his time relating to paragraph 2 with Twitter comments that beggar belief at times and is already making his bed regarding Dishonoured and how well it plays on PS3, played at several expo's for many hours according to him - when only XBox setups were present and video even had XBox button prompts appearing. Beth PR? - nonexistant under the definition of the title.

i was geting dishonoured but after the skyrim and dawnguard issues from those cowboy devs which they are , they cant get anything to work properly so i am not buying any more bugthesda products ever , im going to spend my money on products from devs who are established in making titles for the PS3

[Manny(BAKE)]

i was geting dishonoured but after the skyrim and dawnguard issues from those cowboy devs which they are , they cant get anything to work properly so i am not buying any more bugthesda products ever , im going to spend my money on products from devs who are established in making titles for the PS3

Bethesda aren't making dishonoured, they're publishing it. However you'll still get the same old exclusivity for any DLC that comes out!

[Danial Zachery]

I'm trying to get into AC3 but I'm finding it hard to swallow the American ra ra ra stuff. I don't dislike the States or anything, I just have an aversion to patriotism and I really can't get into a person of Native American heritage who is for some reason blindly devoted to fighting for them; especially in a series that revolves around templars and Assassins.

I don't know maybe once I see more gameplay my view will change, but as it stands it just seems to be an outlet to kill redcoats while saying murica &^%$ yeah!

There were plenty of Native Americans that helped on both sides in the American Revolution. It's not illogical or unrealistic at all. Besides it's a game and it really isn't trying to be "patriotic" although I don't see what's wrong with that considering it's a huge part of history.

[sarah]

Youtube AC3 they've added what looks like quite a bit since the first one.

I preordered it yesterday so now I'm just waiting for a game that I know when will come out

WIN!

[lydia nekongo]

All I want is to play dawnguard on my ps3. I love tes5. Its a great game. Please fix the problems with it. I've been looking forward to it for months like many others

[Mark Churchman]

Well from my understanding he sympathizes with the colonists because his tribe was oppressed, so he sees the oppression being done to the colonists.

Also he is half british so it's in his blood, he is technically involved just by that.



And regardless of patriotism or not, it's a different day and age. The non existing America of then has nothing to do with the now.


Besides, I hear that you kill off some colonists as well since everyone is british, the templars are apparently scattered through both sides.

But I don't see the issue with fighting a war that took place in American history even if it is favoring the US. That'd be like not wanting to play CoD cause you're fighting as the US through most the story xD

And either way the game, it made assassins into heroes lol. Never have assassins been considered heroes really.
They were feared if anything.

It's already drastically skewed the history and ideas of the Templars and thrown them into a bad light, so, yeah I don't see why it'd be an issue xD


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyADEG_W5A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpBL-g9-Ss4

Some vids just to see


Of course its all your choice. I'm not trying to pressure you into buying AC3

I personally look forward to it.

I'm a huge AC fan so preordering AC3 was no brainer for me, and since I brought a vita I also preordered AC3 liberation.

[Kelsey Hall]

75 days since Dawnguard released for Xbox 360, and they still won't tell us what the problem is. (And no, "having issues" isn't telling us what the problem is.)

[[Bounty][Ben]]

Well from my understanding he sympathizes with the colonists because his tribe was oppressed, so he sees the oppression being done to the colonists.

Also he is half british so it's in his blood, he is technically involved just by that.



And regardless of patriotism or not, it's a different day and age. The non existing America of then has nothing to do with the now.


Besides, I hear that you kill off some colonists as well since everyone is british, the templars are apparently scattered through both sides.

But I don't see the issue with fighting a war that took place in American history even if it is favoring the US. That'd be like not wanting to play CoD cause you're fighting as the US through most the story xD

And either way the game, it made assassins into heroes lol. Never have assassins been considered heroes really.
They were feared if anything.

It's already drastically skewed the history and ideas of the Templars and thrown them into a bad light, so, yeah I don't see why it'd be an issue xD


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyADEG_W5A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpBL-g9-Ss4

Some vids just to see


Of course its all your choice. I'm not trying to pressure you into buying AC3

I personally look forward to it.

I'm looking forward to it as well, it was just as of now the only trailers I saw seemed to portray it in a way I didn't like. I'm not even British but it just didn't sit well with me, that line in the independence trailer "Why should I bother learning about a country I'll never see" made me cringe. It just seems like it's pandering to people in the states. I can see it being very off putting for the customers in the UK. And I'm well aware they keep saying that it's not one sided, they have yet to show it though.

Also I thought the Protagonist had his village destroyed by colonists?

[Skivs]

75 days since Dawnguard released for Xbox 360, and they still won't tell us what the problem is. (And no, "having issues" isn't telling us what the problem is.)

Performance issues isn't descriptive enough? to me that says Lagging, freezing, crashing etc

[Luis Reyma]

It is an issue because most of the population is ignorant, so throwing factions into a bad light and basically rewriting history is inciting contempt. Most people don't even know what a templar is.

I meant they did that for everything, changed the lighting of every faction in the game. So seeing how everything was altered I don't see the issue of any one specific thing being altered so long as it's fun xD

Bethesda aren't making dishonoured, they're publishing it. However you'll still get the same old exclusivity for any DLC that comes out!

Guilty by association

I'm looking forward to it as well, it was just as of now the only trailers I saw seemed to portray it in a way I didn't like. I'm not even British but it just didn't sit well with me, that line in the independence trailer "Why should I bother learning about a country I'll never see" made me cringe. It just seems like it's pandering to people in the states. I can see it being very off putting for the customers in the UK. And I'm well aware they keep saying that it's not one sided, they have yet to show it though.

Also I thought the Protagonist had his village destroyed by colonists?

I'm not 100% sure if he had it destroyed by colonists or not. He doesn't seem to be FULLY aligned to one side or the other, but more so to the colonists.
It could be it was destroyed by templar colonists if that's the case, setting up why he becomes an assassin and is so worked up on killing templars. But that's speculation.

And eh, I'll never see Italy or any other country visited in any AC game.

Unless when military comes they ship me off there? But I don't expect it.

I see pretty much 2 countries, America and Thailand xD

[Wane Peters]

Performance issues isn't descriptive enough? to me that says Lagging, freezing, crashing etc

I seriously thought I read and read other people saying it was the load games, every time they loaded the world restarted or something along those lines.

[sophie]

Everybody quit flaming and arguing. All it's going to end up doing is getting this thread locked, and cause us to have nowhere to talk about the game.