[Elena Alina]

alright Bethesda we all know that you are trying but you do not get this DG DLC out for PS3 you and I both Know that you will have legal actions on your hands

[Tamara Primo]

Sony has confirmed that they are, in fact, working closely with Bethesda to resolve this mess, and that everyone involved is doing their best to fix it. The story just ran on Kotaku a few hours ago.

They haven't given up on it, which is good news. If this can be fixed, the Sony developers will figure it out.

I don't trust Kotaku..not after the rumor he let out about Final fantasy versus 13 being cancelled

[Raymond J. Ramirez]

Late response, my apologies.

@1-They can try pulling their tried and true solution once again. That being not worrying about getting promised(and it was promised) DLC out to the PS3 on time(and it was promised to be on a same time frame of release as other platforms), because the plan to lay a GotY on us down the road for another $60 bucks. That way they get us the content and get it to us at the 'same time' as other platforms-using their reasoning anyways.

@the rest-You my friend better just strap on in tight, cause this whole mess isn't going to get any better any faster until Bethesda gives some real definite answers and stop dancing about dropping double-speak. Ppl are going to complain as is their right as customers. Sure some are going over the top, but that's their right too as long as they keep it clean imo.

Read the bolded underlined sentence.

The handle is Spiritreaver btw. Not 'pot'.

When did i say that Bethesda said that? You are making me saying that, the basis of your argument here and that is completely wrong. I've repeatedly said that Microsoft was totally justified in procuring timed exclusivity for their platform and that i have no problem with it. But you seem to like ignoring that little fact.

What was expressly implied by Bethesda however, was that both PS3 and PC would both be getting Dawnguard in about the same time frame after the Microsoft exclusivity period had passed. Now when you can show where has happened, beyond the trite "I waited many many many months for DLC on previous Bethesda titles" refreain, i'll be happy to discuss THAT with you.

The top quote was from the first page and the bolded sentence is where you said that "it was promised".

[Jessica Nash]

Sharing this because i find it hilarious.

Since the 1.6/1.7 patch, i haven't had any slowdown or other major problem, but i have been getting humorous glitches. Like every every other time or so i mount Shadowmere, my character will stand at attention for a few seconds before adopting the now seated position in the saddle. And my favorite glitch thus far, which sadly included Shadowmere again, i just yesterday exit a barrow to find my steed locked in combat with not one but 2 Ancient Dragons, a bear, AND and Ice Troll. LOL, died before i could even unsheath my weapon, but i was laughing so hard i didn't even care.

Well only glitch I had since it was the kill animation starting but no animation done, and I just waste time standing for a moment.

That's as bad as it got for me on PS3

[Marina Leigh]

Read the bolded underlined sentence.



The top quote was from the first page and the bolded sentence is where you said that "it was promised".

Sorry if that was misleading for some reason, but i stand by both comments. 'expressly implied' and 'promised' in the context i used them convey the same sentiment, which was that the PS3 version of DG was given every appearance that it would be delivered in the same timely manner as other platform's versions.

And my inability in your quoted instance of completely expressing my thought does not change how Bethesda advertised and played up DG.

[Scarlet Devil]

And because i was interested, i looked up the article Del Drago referenced. Here is the relevant quote from it

"We work with all of our partners to try and solve their problems," Boyes answered. "We have a big, broad dev support team that works closely with Bethesda—and with all of our partners—to work with them to solve that any sort of issues they have along the way."

"Of course, I always want everything to work always for everyone. I can't promise any kind of resolution or timeline but can say that everyone involved is trying their best to get this stuff working."

http://kotaku.com/5941482/sony-says-that-theyve-been-working-closely-with-bethesda-to-get-skyrim-dlc-working-on-the-ps3?post=52498517

Adam Boyes prolly just started in his post when this current dilemma was just getting started, so i'm feeling he prolly has a good feel for the situation. I have to say though, unlike Del Drago, i am not drawing reassurance from that statement. That last line in particular.

[Strawberry]

alright Bethesda we all know that you are trying but you do not get this DG DLC out for PS3 you and I both Know that you will have legal actions on your hands

Took a sec to actually think about this before speaking against this sentiment of litigiousness that keeps popping up. Now i still feel that's not the way to go, but i did look up a legal definition of false advertising

Proof Requirement

To establish that an advertisemant is false, a plaintiff must prove five things: (1) a false statement of fact has been made about the advertiser's own or another person's goods, services, or commercial activity; (2) the statement either deceives or has the potential to deceive a substantial portion of its targeted audience; (3) the deception is also likely to affect the purchasing decisions of its audience; (4) the advertising involves goods or services in interstate commerce; and (5) the deception has either resulted in or is likely to result in injury to the plaintiff. The most heavily weighed factor is the advertisemant's potential to injure a customer. The injury is usually attributed to money the consumer lost through a purchase that would not have been made had the advertisemant not been misleading. False statements can be defined in two ways: those that are false on their face and those that are implicitly false.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/False+Advertising

Depending on how you interpret those 5 criteria, i guess "sue now, force better business behavior" group might actually have a leg to stand on if Skyrim DLC doesn't happen.

[Maria Leon]

Took a sec to actually think about this before speaking against this sentiment of litigiousness that keeps popping up. Now i still feel that's not the way to go, but i did look up a legal definition of false advertising


http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/False+Advertising

Depending on how you interpret those 5 criteria, i guess "sue now, force better business behavior" group might actually have a leg to stand on if Skyrim DLC doesn't happen.

If you knew how much large companies go out of there way to make sure they're covered in legal terms, you would think they're totally paranoid. It's crazy, like they're just waiting for someone to sue them. They have massive legal teams that are so cut throat they would counter-sue for trouble, possible slander and damages and end up taking you for all your worth. Whether the particular company your suing agrees to it or not, their legal team would make sure the plaintiff would never be financially stable again.

I'm not an attorney and know very little about law, but I would highly suggest making sure you have one hell of a case before serving them with a citation, lilace95. I don't know if interpretations under the pretense of false advertising would hold up. Who knows, you might hit one out of the park. Lol

[Madison Poo]

They never said they would release it on ps3 as far as I know, but they also never said they wouldn't either. Whatever happens, if they are trying their damn hardest to get it to us we deserve weekly updates at the least. If they are dragging on telling us they want to cancel dawnguard on the ps3, tell us now. I would prefer to sell this game then to keep waisting my time going through the same quest over and over in anticipation for somethig new that will never come.

[James Wilson]

IGNORE

[SaVino GοΜ]

I don't need a down to the second estimated release date. I don't expect Bethesda to magically whip up a solution to the current dilemma five minutes from now, give me a call on my phone and give me a personal url so i can pull a perfect PS3 version of DG just for me. I don't want anything unreasonable really.

Point for Bethesda, imo, they've admitted they are not up to the task of fixing w/e is wrong with getting Dawnguard on the PS3 on their own. If they would just take it one step further and say yea or nay to whether or not PS3 will be getting DG as an electronic dl or if they have decided to just go the GotY route, or if DLC of any kind were not possible, that would be enough i think. And i'm positive Bethesda has that answer yet they continue to string their PS3 customers along with double-speech laden non-answers.

Why exactly do you need closure from them? If they do ever release I'm sure you'll find out and buy it. If they don't you won't. I don't get why you need to have an ultimatum on this?

[OnlyDumazzapplyhere]

Took a sec to actually think about this before speaking against this sentiment of litigiousness that keeps popping up. Now i still feel that's not the way to go, but i did look up a legal definition of false advertising. Depending on how you interpret those 5 criteria, i guess "sue now, force better business behavior" group might actually have a leg to stand on if Skyrim DLC doesn't happen.

not to mention the bugs that Skyrim is plauged with that people have incounterd! I havent seen any backwards flying dragons but i have had a few issues that i have stated in these forums! selling a game that was knowingly broke to the public might fall under the Failure to Disclose part of false advertisemant! but i do agree that its not the way to go!

also i tried to post the full quote but i do not have permission to post links so i had to edit that out your quote!

[Craig Martin]

From what I've seen Dawnguard doesn't look worth $20 nor does it merit the recent uproar of a PS3 release especially with the game breaking vampire raid bug X-boxers are complaining about. In a way, it's good X-box gets to experience the whatever bugs and glitches before everyone else. I'd be pissed to burn $20 just to have my game potentially ruined due to a new glitch. I'd rather Dawnguard stay on X-box / PC while Bethesda fixes Skyrim vanilla bugs on PS3 and work on a true expansion, Shivering Isle size in scope.

[No Name]

That's an idea

[Nichola Haynes]

Beth really has no motivation to release DG for PS3.

I've been reading here and on other sites where many members state the are "thinking about"/"already have" purchased an xbox and bought Skyrim and the dlc.

For Bethesda, its a winner all around. They don't really lose any money at all. And to top it off, Micro[censored] makes more money by people jumping ship to their console.

PS3 will never see dlc for skyrim. sorry. its the sad truth. there is no motivation for Beth to do so.

[Glu Glu]

Funny that you cite Assassins Creed series as a saving grace of sorts. Are you aware that SONY paid Ubisoft for "timed DLC exclusivity" ? Sony did the EXACT same thing that MS did for Dawnguard, yet nobody is complaining about it....were you aware of this? If not I find it extremely hypocritical, yet so typical of the gaming community.

Sony also paid Ubisoft for "timed DLC exclusivity" for the new Splinter Cell games.

Yea Sony makes the same deals like MS but atleast Sonys deals last a week not a whole month.

[Megan Stabler]

Yea Sony makes the same deals like MS but atleast Sonys deals last a week not a whole month.

*looks at Battlefield 3*
I can't even play that, the patches are too big.

[BaNK.RoLL]

*looks at Battlefield 3*
I can't even play that, the patches are too big.

I know what you mean mate, but got to give it to the makers of BF3 they make a game on all platfourms and support all of them fully.

[jennie xhx]

Emails With Bethesda Support and Results

Anyways, I contacted Customer Support directly about the game itself and my complaints about the PS3 version and how it's performance was unsatisfactory and I complained about the product being a rip off and that the retailer would only offer $13 on a trade in for a $60 purchase and was asking to directly turn it in to them.

Their response? - The same 2nd PR response we got about a week ago. They didn't even read my email and my complaint, they gave me the simple copy and paste response about Dawnguard when I didn't even mention Dawnguard, DLC, or anything additional to the game. Just that I didn't like the PS3 version and wanted to trade it in.

Great customer service, right?

I responded and told them they didn't even read my email and to please actually read it and respond appropriately.

2nd response was the actual customer support that offers 90 day or earlier replacement for free of broken products and such. After 90 days there is a small fee. The PS3 version is $20, the PC version is $10. I asked them if I could send them $10 and the PS3 version and get a PC version in return. I am now awaiting their response.

I wonder if I'll get a copy of the first email response I get. It wouldn't surprise me.


And yes, if this does work and I can get a PC version, I will do it and see what my computer can handle. I can deal with shelling out 10 bucks if I can use mods.

[Nana Samboy]

*looks at Battlefield 3*
I can't even play that, the patches are too big.

Have you got a small hardrive mines 160 gig , had premium for a while n just downloaded armoured kill which is brilliant

[Hannah Barnard]

I know what you mean mate, but got to give it to the makers of BF3 they make a game on all platfourms and support all of them fully.

Because its EA who do this not like Bugthesda who dont give a damn bout PS3 community maybe Bugthesda might learn or maybe not from a proper Dev like EA

[Meghan Terry]

From what I've seen Dawnguard doesn't look worth $20 nor does it merit the recent uproar of a PS3 release especially with the game breaking vampire raid bug X-boxers are complaining about. In a way, it's good X-box gets to experience the whatever bugs and glitches before everyone else. I'd be pissed to burn $20 just to have my game potentially ruined due to a new glitch. I'd rather Dawnguard stay on X-box / PC while Bethesda fixes Skyrim vanilla bugs on PS3 and work on a true expansion, Shivering Isle size in scope.

I've watched walkthroughs and would gladly pay $20 bucks for the DLC. There's a more then I thought (especially for lore buffs). Unfortunately....well, I think the thread title explains it.

[casey macmillan]

Because its EA who do this not like Bugthesda who dont give a damn bout PS3 community maybe Bugthesda might learn or maybe not from a proper Dev like EA

EA maybe a dike but atleast they can get thier games ready for realese without that much bugs.

[Loane]

Alright...its a lot harder to stay off this forum than i thought! ANY UPDATES YET???? WHILE I WAS AWAY??

[Elina]

I've watched walkthroughs and would gladly pay $20 bucks for the DLC. There's a more then I thought (especially for lore buffs). Unfortunately....well, I think the thread title explains it.

Here's the thing, the content might be amazing (i would love to play vampire lord) it might be the most content heavy DLC eever made that would give you 500 hours of gameplay. Iwould gladly pay $40. But there is a small, little insignificant detail they leave out of their advertisemants: BUGS. LOTS AND LOTS OF BUGS AND PERFORMANCE ISSUES. I can't enjoy 500 hours of fun if th [censored] thing crashes and lags all the [censored] time!!!!! I AM NOT A BETA TESTER!!!! and you shouldn't be either

Awesome content+lots of bugs and performance issues= $0.00