[Matt Bee]

If you knew how much large companies go out of there way to make sure they're covered in legal terms, you would think they're totally paranoid. It's crazy, like they're just waiting for someone to sue them. They have massive legal teams that are so cut throat they would counter-sue for trouble, possible slander and damages and end up taking you for all your worth. Whether the particular company your suing agrees to it or not, their legal team would make sure the plaintiff would never be financially stable again.

I'm not an attorney and know very little about law, but I would highly suggest making sure you have one hell of a case before serving them with a citation, lilace95. I don't know if interpretations under the pretense of false advertising would hold up. Who knows, you might hit one out of the park. Lol

Think you are misreading again. I am personally against suing Bethesda, that's just not the way i operate. Just saying that those that want to try that route may have a shot.

1)Why exactly do you need closure from them? 2)If they do ever release I'm sure you'll find out and buy it. If they don't you won't. 3)I don't get why you need to have an ultimatum on this?

Another non-reader. Some of you guys needs to just accept that there will be angry people as a result of all this Dawnguard business, even if you yourself are fine with it. That said

@1-Since i've invested an obscene amount of time in TES series as a whole since Daggerfall in '96 and Skyrim in specific since launch day. You know? Kinda like any other human being that invests large amounts of time into something, a definite answer as to whether that time is over or if its going to be added to is preferable to twisting in the wind ad nausea. Not a hard concept to understand.

@2-Obviously, as i've stated more than once. I'm currently invested in TES V: Skyrim, so of course i want to experience as much of it as i can. Outside of a poor attempt downplay normal human behavior, again, don't even see the point of this bit of your statement.

@3-Learn what 'ultimatum' means before you use it in a sentence, please. The phrase i think you are looking for is 'clear response'. And if you don't understand why a person would want a clear response on something after being strung along for months, then i guess you are out of luck.

[Sophie Morrell]

Alright...its a lot harder to stay off this forum than i thought! ANY UPDATES YET???? WHILE I WAS AWAY??

Welcome back! And no

[Rodney C]

Welcome back! And no

SAD FACE!!

[Beat freak]

Will Assassin's Creed 3 be boring when you finish the game?

No it is going to have mulitplayer which there mp is really fun

[Jessica Raven]

The sad thing is you probably won't even get enough money to buy the new Assassin's Creed game after trading all those games in. Lol

No thats going to go towards it it wont be my funds for ac3 im just doing it to show my that im done with bethesda.

[Jah Allen]

Ended up buying an xbox 360 and 16 games for 100 dollars total. got fed up with waiting and traded my ps3 skyrim and a few other games and bought skyrim and the witcher 2 on the 360. I already paid bethesda full price for the game back in November so bought it for the 360 at a small used store so that they didn't get any of my money a second time. I'm not happy with bethesda for this and will likely never buy their games again when first released if for a next gen console because I'll need to do research on whether the PS4 or the new box will actually be able to handle things. either way done with this thread now...I fully expect them to have a release of something by end of October for PS3 owners though.

[Lynette Wilson]

Good Evening everyone,

I've been following this thread since it was #2, literally, and have been reading everything pretty much each hour that I've been awake.

I'm English, have my PS3 and obviously a copy of the game and was so excited when I heard and saw the upcoming DLC DG and HF. Now, a little back info. I've owned the game on PS3 since Dec' 11, have 5 different characters with 986 hours in total on them all.

I've been waiting and waiting for the DLC as I'm in and out of hospital, so have not a lot else to do besides play Skyrim, follow this thread since it was activated, and attend a couple of different hospitals when needed.

I've emailed and tweeted the relevant parties both in Beth' and also Sony asking for an update or any information on either DG or HF. I haven't had any replies from either but am following it all on here and through several topics on News Republic.

The truth is that I play Skyrim because I've not actually got months to wait for the release of the DLC and the tweeted update from Bethesda's PR guy about we can't expect weekly updates is complete cr#p. I paid for the game, played it solidly, some times from a hospital room, and even purchased Oblivian and molested that on the basis of how much fun Skyim is, even with the bugs and crashes, all of which, except for backwards flying dragons, I've had. So far I'm 200+hrs into a character that's had the 1.7 update and so far no problems, but please Bethesda, I want you to truelly understand, there are some people, however a small PS3 minority, that would like to know weekly where and what is happening because they're unlikely to be here, LITERALLY, in 3 or more months times.

It's not too much to ask, or to ask with a please, that you update the PS3 users weekly with more than a 'Nothing to say, still unlikely' comment. Engage us because I'm very literally passing my time in constant pain , playing your flawed game and don't have the luxury of knowing I'll be here in 6 months for you to say NO DLC or ASK US AGAIN NEXT MONTH.

I'm a single PS3 owner who can't afford to switch consoles and who only wants to enjoy my time playing your game that you released and said worked with upcoming DLC's.


You can call me Tom. That's my real name. I'm 31, live in England and chose to believe you when you said your game would 'likely' have updates and who doesn't have a huge amount of time left but has chosen to escape what's coming not to far off by using your game.

Please give us a respectful weekly update.

Please.

[Nany Smith]

Ended up buying an xbox 360 and 16 games for 100 dollars total. got fed up with waiting and traded my ps3 skyrim and a few other games and bought skyrim and the witcher 2 on the 360. I already paid bethesda full price for the game back in November so bought it for the 360 at a small used store so that they didn't get any of my money a second time. I'm not happy with bethesda for this and will likely never buy their games again when first released if for a next gen console because I'll need to do research on whether the PS4 or the new box will actually be able to handle things. either way done with this thread now...I fully expect them to have a release of something by end of October for PS3 owners though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEjVpgLkeFg This is why Microsoft pulls this crap. Oh and Tom, that brought a tear to my eye. Good Luck my friend.

[Damned_Queen]

Why is everyone wanting DLC for the PS3 when the main games DOESNT work?

Now that is a good question. Hey... lemme give Bethesda more money for a finicky game then be surprised when the DLC doesnt measure up to what I wanted...

[Stu Clarke]

Just to correct myself, I purchase Oblivian on the basis of my Skyrim enjoyment, I didn't molest it. That's my iPad auto correcting there. >_<

I've watched on YouTube complete walk thoughts for Dawnguard and Hearthfire and love what I see.

I've spent the last 20hrs or so bringing my golf upto above the 2 million mark and have huge stockpiles of metals, animal hides and things, and other items that the Vanilla Skyrim game has that will be used to build my own Hearthfire house in the hope that it'll be released.

I hope that you guys will understand why I've made public my reasons for wanting a regular update and hope no one sees it as a self serving cry for attention. Don't pity me, simply help me, and all of us, get a firmer feedback line from Bethesda because I really would like to know where I stand at the moment.

[Josh Trembly]

Think you are misreading again. I am personally against suing Bethesda, that's just not the way i operate. Just saying that those that want to try that route may have a shot.

Oh, you again...

Ok. Reread that post. Never in it did I assume you were going to sue. I was just having a simple discussion on how a company goes out of their way for lagality, what someone would have to do in order to actually file suit and what could possibly happen to the subjected plaintiff of the said case. If you didn't only read a few lines then post saying that I misread you, you'll notice that I mention the person by name who originally brought up the idea of sueing. It says Lilace, not Sprirtrever.

I didn't suggest that you were going to go out and file a class-action lawsuit and I ended the post with a joke. That should be enough for you to recognize the post for what it was. It's getting aggrivating having to explain everything I post.


Anyway, the post above mine is very well said and reading things from people like this actually make me wish there was something I could do to help.

[Chantel Hopkin]

Oh, you again...

Ok. Reread that post. Never in it did I assume you were going to sue. I was just having a simple discussion on how a company goes out of their way for lagality, what someone would have to do in order to actually file suit and what could possibly happen to the subjected plaintiff of the said case. If you didn't only read a few lines then post saying that I misread you, you'll notice that I mention the person by name who originally brought up the idea of sueing. It says Lilace, not Sprirtrever.

I didn't suggest that you were going to go out and file a class-action lawsuit and I ended the post with a joke. That should be enough for you to recognize the post for what it was. It's getting aggrivating having to explain everything I post.


Anyway, the post above mine is very well said and reading things from people like this actually make me wish there was something I could do to help.

Write to your congressman? Idk thier not much you can do it's all out of gamers hands and in the hands of devs.

[FABIAN RUIZ]

EA maybe a dike but atleast they can get thier games ready for realese without that much bugs.

EA did not develop BF3... DICE did.

[Connie Thomas]

EA did not develop BF3... DICE did.

maybe not fully develop BF3 but they did help in some part... cuz it does have the EA icon..

[Andy durkan]

Have you got a small hardrive mines 160 gig , had premium for a while n just downloaded armoured kill which is brilliant

No, I have 320, although I installed a lot of things on it. Also, BF2 is more fun to play to me.

[Janeth Valenzuela Castelo]

Sony acutally announced that they are in-fact working with Bethesda.

http://kotaku.com/5941482/sony-says-that-theyve-been-working-closely-with-bethesda-to-get-skyrim-dlc-working-on-the-ps3

[katsomaya Sanchez]

Sony acutally announced that they are in-fact working with Bethesda.

http://kotaku.com/5941482/sony-says-that-theyve-been-working-closely-with-bethesda-to-get-skyrim-dlc-working-on-the-ps3

Thanks for posting - its good to know.

[Anne marie]

Thanks for posting - its good to know.

^^^ This, and thank you.

[Lori Joe]

Still....will this turn into an other FO3 DLC fiscao? when asked on twitter..I was greeted with silence....as usual.

[celebrity]

Funny that you cite Assassins Creed series as a saving grace of sorts. Are you aware that SONY paid Ubisoft for "timed DLC exclusivity" ? Sony did the EXACT same thing that MS did for Dawnguard, yet nobody is complaining about it....were you aware of this? If not I find it extremely hypocritical, yet so typical of the gaming community.

Sony also paid Ubisoft for "timed DLC exclusivity" for the new Splinter Cell games.

Once again, it's not the timed exclusivity deals we're pissed about. Those are just business. They also ended a month ago as far as Dawnguard is concerned, and now we're just waiting in the dark. It's not even the wait I'm mad about, I would be glad to get a less buggy DLC it's more the fact that they have barely released any information as to their progress on fixing Dawnguard.

[Claire]

Sony acutally announced that they are in-fact working with Bethesda.

http://kotaku.com/5941482/sony-says-that-theyve-been-working-closely-with-bethesda-to-get-skyrim-dlc-working-on-the-ps3

It's good to know, But I still wouldn't get my hopes up. Still hoping for the best though.

[Siobhan Wallis-McRobert]

Here is how I feel about the matter:

Dear Bethesda, I have been a loyal customer of the PS3 for quite a while, as well as a proud owner of Skyrim, and I would like to take the time to tell you how I feel about your outrageous decision to treat other gamers on the same platform with such disrespect, and how I have coped with my own experience.

I bought a copy of Skyrim with little hesitation, due only to the fact of my limited funds. It was merely days, maybe even a week after its release, and I was as thrilled as one could be, but at first, you seemed to have lied about being able to output up to 1080i resolution on the PS3, and this was odd, because my TV was more than capable of accomplishing even better than than that, but I let it slide and kept it at 720p, for it was not a major issue, even though other platforms could output up to 1080p. The game lagged and froze up on my practically emptied HDD, 320GB in fact, especially throughout the beginning of the game, but your several patches to fix these issues kept me at bay, even though these issues were still persistent enough to keep occurring. When you stated, before any mention of Dawngaurd, much less Hearthfire, that DLC would be available 30 days, 1 month, after its seemingly-exclusive debut on Xbox, I sympathized with you, because I figured development on a game as vast and elaborate as this would be extremely difficult. When Dawngaurd was released, I patiently anticipated the next 30 days to pass. Before I knew it, almost 2 months had passed, without even a word of PS3's actual debut, let alone its development progress. I was confused, maybe even a little upset, but I convinced myself that the process must have been more difficult than expected, so I waited even more. My patience wavered from time to time, but I kept to myself, even though the wait seemed brutal. But now, after constant waiting and waiting, the uncertainty of its release eating away at my very being, you have the audacity to announce, no, release another piece of content, whilst ignoring the other gamers who also anticipated the previous for so long, and shunning the very promises you made to them before either were even revealed!? You can tell us however many times you want about how difficult it is, that the system is not as easy to manipulate as you expected, but you are ultimately the ones to blame, for even you did not realize the challenge you had accepted, expecting to overcome it with ease, thus, filling our heads with false hopes. This is not about how difficult it has become now, no, it is about how foolish and incompetent you were in the beginning, to believe you could accomplish more than you knew you were capable of. You simply cannot just expect something to work if you've never even tried it before. The PS3 & Xbox are two completely different systems that are not capable of performing the same tasks, only those they were specifically designed for. By now, you may think that you are aware of all this, that you have already given us a significant sign of intelligence that showcases this concept, but you have failed to do so, in turn, angering loyal customers even more so. Unless you are able to redeem yourselves, whether it be through an act of generosity that accounts for your dishonesty and lack of communication with the community, or even a heartfelt apology, which acknowledges all the failures you are responsible for, as well as the promises you never kept, you shall remain as you are now; a dishonest corporation that could have accomplished so much more, had they been wiser and more compassionate to begin with. Truly, I wish you the best of luck in this struggle you have entangled yourselves in, I do not hate you in any way, but you have driven me and countless others to the brink of intolerance by being ignorant enough to tell us that you were capable of accomplishing something that was never expected of you in the first place. Heed these words, Bethesda, and remember that even you cannot treat us so unfairly, as if you were driven by hatred. Surely, you are better than that, but until you show us otherwise, you will be known as anything but. Truly, I wish you the best of luck in this tiring indifference you seem to be facing, even though you have shamed us, as well as yourselves, in such an awful manner.

I repeat, I do not hate you, nor have I ever, but even I could not keep quiet about this any longer. Thank you, and good luck to all of you.

[Naazhe Perezz]

Well I am not even sure if Bathesda will read this but as a consumer I am highly disappointed with Public Relations. I have a BA in Business and I see this lack of keeping your loyal customers in the dark as shooting yourself in the foot. I totally understand that problems do come up, and delays do happen, but the way DCL was handled was very unprofessional, and in a way insulting for the following reasons
1. Microsoft got their exculsive release date on 6/26/2012 - it is 9/8/2012 and NO DCL for ps3.
2. PC got the DCL shortly afterward.
3. Skyrim Kinect was released for Xbox 360 and support for the DCL.
4. Xbox 360 just got hearthfire on 9/6/2012.

I honestly am disappointed to say that PS3 users do not get the same attention from Bathesda than those consumers of the Xbox 360. Sad part is that I also have a 360 but refuse to buy skyrim on the 360 when I already own a copy on the ps3. If I have to change consoles just to get better treatment that certainly will not happen, also paying another 40-60 dollars and playing another 100 hours not going to happen.

Lastly I would like Bathesda to know that I loved Oblivion, and that was the first game of Bathesda I ever played, and when Skyrim came out I was excited, and even waited outside of Bestbuy in the cold to get it at midnight. Although because of recent events of Skyrim issues with the Ps3 and DCL, I am sorry to inform you that I will probably not purchase another product from Bathesda, not because I don't think that games are amazing, but because your Public Relations have really dropped the ball, and I simply can not trust Bathesda if they will treat me the same on any console that I choose to play their product on.

[OJY]

Well I am not even sure if Bathesda will read this but as a consumer I am highly disappointed with Public Relations. I have a BA in Business and I see this lack of keeping your loyal customers in the dark as shooting yourself in the foot. I totally understand that problems do come up, and delays do happen, but the way DCL was handled was very unprofessional, and in a way insulting for the following reasons
1. Microsoft got their exculsive release date on 6/26/2012 - it is 9/8/2012 and NO DCL for ps3.
2. PC got the DCL shortly afterward.
3. Skyrim Kinect was released for Xbox 360 and support for the DCL.
4. Xbox 360 just got hearthfire on 9/6/2012.

I honestly am disappointed to say that PS3 users do not get the same attention from Bathesda than those consumers of the Xbox 360. Sad part is that I also have a 360 but refuse to buy skyrim on the 360 when I already own a copy on the ps3. If I have to change consoles just to get better treatment that certainly will not happen, also paying another 40-60 dollars and playing another 100 hours not going to happen.

Lastly I would like Bathesda to know that I loved Oblivion, and that was the first game of Bathesda I ever played, and when Skyrim came out I was excited, and even waited outside of Bestbuy in the cold to get it at midnight. Although because of recent events of Skyrim issues with the Ps3 and DCL, I am sorry to inform you that I will probably not purchase another product from Bathesda, not because I don't think that games are amazing, but because your Public Relations have really dropped the ball, and I simply can not trust Bathesda if they will treat me the same on any console that I choose to play their product on.

its not the PR's fult its Bethesda's skyrim's Dlc's top heads fult inthat they rushed DG out for theb 30-day and thought thAT porting it to ps3 was going to be ease....

[adame]

not to mention the bugs that Skyrim is plauged with that people have incounterd! I havent seen any backwards flying dragons but i have had a few issues that i have stated in these forums! selling a game that was knowingly broke to the public might fall under the Failure to Disclose part of false advertisemant! but i do agree that its not the way to go!

also i tried to post the full quote but i do not have permission to post links so i had to edit that out your quote!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCjK3BD6u4

your dragons

Alright...its a lot harder to stay off this forum than i thought! ANY UPDATES YET???? WHILE I WAS AWAY??

You're acting PR you tell us xD

And you tried to abandon us >

Now that is a good question. Hey... lemme give Bethesda more money for a finicky game then be surprised when the DLC doesnt measure up to what I wanted...

well several of us have made this point, and it's not even the PS3 alone thats broke. The PC version had a good amount of issues for me.

But people will give their money. And so long as they are willing to give money for a half baked product Bethesda will see no reason not to hand it to them raw.