[Eileen Müller]

I honestly doubt PS3 will EVER get a release date, no offence to those of you that still have hope. Hearthfire might beacause its smaller, but no dawnguard .

[Epul Kedah]

I'd like to cite the Assassin's Creed franchise as a stellar example of how well a cross platform game can become, with each installment getting more refined on the PS3 side starting with AC2, getting better with AC2 Brotherhood and becoming as good if not better in terms of "PS3 vs X360" graphics once AC2 Redemption came out. It's as if the developers were delivering a better product as they gained experience and learned how to develop on the PS3 platform better.

I can't wait to see how well Assassin's Creed 3 will come out and I'd love to see how each version will come out when compared side by side with each other! On a side note, if AC3 comes out (Due the end of October) before any of the Skyrim DLCs for the PS3 due to any further "delays", I will pretty much just focus on AC3 and just belay any Skyrim purchases until the "GOTY" or "Ultimate Edition" of Skyrim comes out for the PS3, that way I can enjoy all of the Skyrim DLCs minus the failed release date

Funny that you cite Assassins Creed series as a saving grace of sorts. Are you aware that SONY paid Ubisoft for "timed DLC exclusivity" ? Sony did the EXACT same thing that MS did for Dawnguard, yet nobody is complaining about it....were you aware of this? If not I find it extremely hypocritical, yet so typical of the gaming community.

Sony also paid Ubisoft for "timed DLC exclusivity" for the new Splinter Cell games.

[Tina Tupou]

it probably will be, but skyrim was boring for me after a while when I finished it too.

Everything gets boring eventually.

But while other PS3 players are wondering if dawnguard will be out, I'll be playing AC3 and my assassin will be on a boat ordering men to shoot down British ships xD


I played dawnguard on PC. It's not really all it's hyped up to be honestly.

The previous Assassin's Creed games didn't have the replayability value that I like most of my purchases to have but they were great nonetheless. The first AC was great but the jump from AC1 to AC2 was phenomenal. By the looks of things, including a huge article I just read. the jump between the second game and AC3 will be just as magnificent. I love Fall with one of the reasons being the huge game lineup every year, but I'm going to be broke with the amount of great games coming out. Not to mention I'm also strapped for time because all my classes start up this week,


I know this is completely off-topic but I just can't help being excited for Assassin's Creed 3.

[Margarita Diaz]

With all the speculation about the PSN maintenance, ooh is Dawnguard coming etc etc I still say I doub't it.

Patch 1.07 had the DG trophy support removed and it would be unusual for a DLC to include the trophies, firstly because it will have to have been recoded somewhat to have them added. Secondly there is probably a reason that trophies arrive in a prep patch / update.

I'd expect to see some sort of update before DLC like DG wen't live.

No I'm not an expert so this is just imo based on past experience and felt I may as well post something with 4 threads over in PS3 issues getting swept up as DG discussions when one at least didn't seem to be but nvm eh.

This maybe be an incorrect post due to me not having Hearthfire. If Hearthfire has achievements with it, then the 360 didn't need a patch to add them. Again, I could be wrong. I know some other games don't have the achievements even listed until you buy the DLC.

[Jason Wolf]

This maybe be an incorrect post due to me not having Hearthfire. If Hearthfire has achievements with it, then the 360 didn't need a patch to add them. Again, I could be wrong. I know some other games don't have the achievements even listed until you buy the DLC.

i wanna say i think your right but i think that its the update/patch...

[chinadoll]

The thing is, it wasn't promised, users are confusing instant gratification and entitlement with the things Bethesda actually said.

I think you're right.

The DLC and game add-ons themselves weren't even promised, not to mention no where have I ever seen Bethesda list, set, or promise a specific release date. .

[ZANEY82]

The previous Assassin's Creed games didn't have the replayability value that I like most of my purchases to have but they were great nonetheless. The first AC was great but the jump from AC1 to AC2 was phenomenal. By the looks of things, including a huge article I just read. the jump between the second game and AC3 will be just as magnificent. I love Fall with one of the reasons being the huge game lineup every year, but I'm going to be broke with the amount of great games coming out. Not to mention I'm also strapped for time because all my classes start up this week,


I know this is completely off-topic but I just can't help being excited for Assassin's Creed 3.

ehh what ever to lighten the mood of us ps3 players....

BTW i never got to play assins creed 2 or brotherhood... how were them i only played 1 and even assins 1 was a friends data in that he already beat it...

[sas]

AC3 , AC3 Liberation(PSvita), and BLOPS2( apperently... my sister doesn't even want it so....might as well play it and here I was trying to be a nice big brother) yeah I think....I think i might forget DG exists for a long time now

[Matthew Warren]

Man that's tough not getting Dawnguard. I regret buying my PS3 and do all my gaming on the 360. The PS3 is just a nightmare to code for. What was Sony thinking with the CELL?!

[herrade]

The sad thing is you probably won't even get enough money to buy the new Assassin's Creed game after trading all those games in. Lol

Eh who knows. I sold about 8 games and a majority of them were several years old and I walked out with 90 bucks, well not technically cause i put a full payment on AC3

But gamestop at least in my area had a 50% extra for any trade in if you take it as store credit.

He may get 10-15 a game.

Funny that you cite Assassins Creed series as a saving grace of sorts. Are you aware that SONY paid Ubisoft for "timed DLC exclusivity" ? Sony did the EXACT same thing that MS did for Dawnguard, yet nobody is complaining about it....were you aware of this? If not I find it extremely hypocritical, yet so typical of the gaming community.

Sony also paid Ubisoft for "timed DLC exclusivity" for the new Splinter Cell games.

Dude, keep up. No one cares about the timed exclusives besides the conspirators. The timed exclusives people either brushed off or just said business is business.

The timed exclusive is completely irrelevant to the PS3 situation. If it isn't out a month after the timed exclusive, it sure as hell would not have been out the same day as the 360.


Most of us here accept the idea of a game solely on one system and benefits to games for only one system.


What upsets people is the lack of progress made during this extra time, and the idea of how much more time is to come. The incompetence is what is bothersome, not the exclusiveness. And to be exclusive now is just a kick in the nuts because the PC has it as well, so it's not really exclusive it's just yeah, a kick in the nuts if they can't get any DLC out for PS3. And that is the fear that resides deep down in all these peoples hearts, unless they have already been able to move on regardless of the outcome with bethesda.

The previous Assassin's Creed games didn't have the replayability value that I like most of my purchases to have but they were great nonetheless. The first AC was great but the jump from AC1 to AC2 was phenomenal. By the looks of things, including a huge article I just read. the jump between the second game and AC3 will be just as magnificent. I love Fall with one of the reasons being the huge game lineup every year, but I'm going to be broke with the amount of great games coming out. Not to mention I'm also strapped for time because all my classes start up this week,


I know this is completely off-topic but I just can't help being excited for Assassin's Creed 3.

I think it's fine to have a detour here and there otherwise this thread will purely be rants, hate mail, complaints, and other people not on PS3 complaining, console wars, support from a few PC and 360 players, and that doesn't sound fun lol.

So I like to move things in random directions, keep it uplifting at times.

AC3 main things I like about it, since i gave up on the AC franchise after my 360 got the red ring of death during the time I would have been playing brotherhood (people complain about the PS3 all the time but the 360 is the ONLY system I have EVER had die on me)

But the main things I liked that brought me back are the fact that it's during the revolution, I dunno why but I just loved that idea. Also the fact that you're native american (mixed) and use a bow and arrow and a tomahawk instead of a sword.

The customizable dual wielding and boating, and the hunting and random battles everywhere and all that extra stuff, that's just icing on the cake

ehh what ever to lighten the mood of us ps3 players....

BTW i never got to play assins creed 2 or brotherhood... how were them i only played 1 and even assins 1 was a friends data in that he already beat it...

Well AC2 introduced some things but the game was completely different. If you remember in AC1 if you got to play the story, it was lather rinse repeat. Go to one town, do some side missions, then kill target. Do it over and over again.

AC2 was more focused on story and stopped the repetition more so. It introduced new weapons, shops, larger hideouts, different outfits, the hidden gun of course, the inventor Leonardo who made many things for you, it added a bunch of depth into the life of the individual.

AC Brotherhood was more so a continuation of AC2 so the mechanics were similar but with new armors, you could actually use the apple of eden, you would save people in the street and they would swear their loyalty to you. They would become your assassins and you could customize their appearance to an extent, send them on missions by sending pigeons to them. They would level up and get better equipment, and you could call them to assassinate people near you or to help in battle.

It was fun, but again I got the red ring, couldn't finish the game. And I never played revelations.


Oh the newer games added a second hidden blade as well so dual assassinations and poisoning stabs that make people go insane and thrash at everything till they drop dead.

[Nicole Coucopoulos]

Man that's tough not getting Dawnguard. I regret buying my PS3 and do all my gaming on the 360. The PS3 is just a nightmare to code for. What was Sony thinking with the CELL?!

PS3 isn't all that bad, and I prefer the exclusive games on the PS3 more than I do the ones on 360

The 360 exclusives are more things like Halo typically and I am not necessarily too much of a fan of games like that.

I play shooters, but it's not enough for me to want a 360 over the PS3.


Either way I do prefer the free internet to play BF3. It's just, more convenient seeing as to how all I want to do is play the game online. I don't care about anything extra it works fine.

[Cesar Gomez]

Man that's tough not getting Dawnguard. I regret buying my PS3 and do all my gaming on the 360. The PS3 is just a nightmare to code for. What was Sony thinking with the CELL?!

They did it to make the console have a longer lasting "life."

[TOYA toys]

Where exactly was it promised that all three systems wouldn't only receive every released add-on, but they will all receive them at the exact same time? They never mentioned anything in regards to time frames for DLCs and never could of because one of the systems, in this case the Xbox, acquires the first two DLCs earlier due to an exclusive deal. So just for that alone they wouldn't have promised anything regarding release dates even if they excluded the Xbox from what they were saying.


That, in itself, is an entirely different argument altogether and one that can be made by every person that purchased Skyrim, regardless of the platform.

1
It is promised, the moment they gave it to Xbox they had a 30 day release deal with PS3 and PC. That in itself is a promise otherwise its not a 30 day exclusive.

2
No its not an argument, its an opinon, which is freely voiced.

[roxxii lenaghan]

I'm beginning to accept the fact that us PS3 players may not get Dawnguard.

But that doesn't mean that all of the Dawnguard content has to be kept from us.
I'm guessing most of the porting trouble is occurring with the Vampire Lords, the new perk trees, and the story line.

I propose that while the BGS team continues work on the main part of the Dawnguard DLC, they make an extra mini DLC releasing arrow crafting and maybe crossbows for us while we wait for the main content

[Gen Daley]

They did it to make the console have a longer lasting "life."

isnt the ps3 post have about like 10 years shelf life?.... and wanst that the same for the ps2?....

[Talitha Kukk]

Pretty sure Dawnguard won't be coming to PS3 but then again it took 8-9 months for Fallout 3 DLC to come to PS3....You'd think they would know how to work the PS3 Version Properly by now but no.

Would only really buy it for the new weapons and armor. But then that would be a waster of $20.

I really don't care since I played Dawnguard on my friend's PC and it was not entertaining...I Kinda liked the Soul Cairn. As for Heartfire building houses & Adopting kids?(But apparently can't adopt kid Khajitts, Argonians, HIgh Elves, Dunmer) Only Human Races can have kids? o.O They could of added more to that DLC.

[kristy dunn]

I'm beginning to accept the fact that us PS3 players may not get Dawnguard.

But that doesn't mean that all of the Dawnguard content has to be kept from us.
I'm guessing most of the porting trouble is occurring with the Vampire Lords, the new perk trees, and the story line.

I propose that while the BGS team continues work on the main part of the Dawnguard DLC, they make an extra mini DLC releasing arrow crafting and maybe crossbows for us while we wait for the main content

for whatever reason this idea typically upsets 360 users. I'm not quite sure why, probably because some of them wanted mainly 1-2 features but paid 20 bucks, and you may be able to get only the features they wanted for like 5 bucks.

Crossbows wouldn't work without most of the DLC. You get them through dawnguard, including the bolts, and you learn to craft them from an NPC you can't just craft them off the get go. The arrows you could do cause it's just part of normal smithing.

however seeing how some people want to pick and choose their content, if dawnguard is released someone wanting only arrows would pay 5 bucks and not 20 for the arrows. If they're gonna take you're money, they want as much as they can get.

I think that's why it hasn't happened yet.

Also they responded on twitter saying they would not do it, they pretty much said it's all or nothing.

[Mark]

Can we have new update news on Dawnguard? I want hear something positive, like we are confidence to solve any problems etc.

[Neliel Kudoh]

isnt the ps3 post have about like 10 years shelf life?.... and wanst that the same for the ps2?....

Not sure about ps2, but ps3 is supposed to maintain power for 10 years of average use, so I heard. My ps2 however, has maintained its life since the first day it was released.

[Alexis Estrada]

Pretty sure Dawnguard won't be coming to PS3 but then again it took 8-9 months for Fallout 3 DLC to come to PS3....You'd think they would know how to work the PS3 Version Properly by now but no.

Would only really buy it for the new weapons and armor. But then that would be a waster of $20.

I really don't care since I played Dawnguard on my friend's PC and it was not entertaining...I Kinda liked the Soul Cairn. As for Heartfire building houses & Adopting kids?(But apparently can't adopt kid Khajitts, Argonians, HIgh Elves, Dunmer) Only Human Races can have kids? o.O They could of added more to that DLC.

Yeah DG isn't worth the hype this thread has given it really.

And the children thing is probably just that they already had human kids and they simply modified and copied some kids over and made them adoptable. Shoulda done a fable situation, black screen, funny moans, "Guess what? I'm pregnant!" All of a sudden screen is normal and wife is fat. Then kid runs away trying to be like daddy and you gotta search the woods and save them.



Seeing how skyrim has been out for 8months or so and some people have already shelved it, waiting 8 months for the DLC is just horrible. Waiting as long as the game has been released, pretty much all hype would be gone. If you really wanted to experience it that bad you'd just youtube it by that point.

But uh, I still say best time to sell is during that instant gratification phase where people are like "I need it!"

Give them too much time to think and they will try to think of other things better worth their saved money lol

[Beast Attire]

Can we have new update news on Dawnguard? I want hear something positive, like we are confidence to solve any problems etc.

they said don't expect weekly updates. So be happy if you get 1 update a month apparently lol

That means it'll be a while folks.

[Shae Munro]

Can we have new update news on Dawnguard? I want hear something positive, like we are confidence to solve any problems etc.

I suspect when/if it comes we won't have more then a weeks notice.

[josh evans]

Busy day, again sorry about late replies.

1)Where exactly was it promised that all three systems wouldn't only receive every released add-on, but they will all receive them at the exact same time? They never mentioned anything in regards to time frames for DLCs and never could of because one of the systems, in this case the Xbox, acquires the first two DLCs earlier due to an exclusive deal. So just for that alone they wouldn't have promised anything regarding release dates even if they excluded the Xbox from what they were saying.



2)That, in itself, is an entirely different argument altogether and one that can be made by every person that purchased Skyrim, regardless of the platform.

@1-I didn't say same time. I said same 'time frame', you overlooked that. And as someone who has said from the start of all this that Microsoft was at no fault for paying for exclusivity deals, i think its convenient on your part to ignore that. Same 'time frame' clearly takes the exclusivity period into account and means platforms not covered by that deal, IE PS3 and PC.

And PS3 and PC getting Dawnguard in the same time frame after 30 days was implied when they were hyping the heck out of the DLC when it was first announced, when Tweet Hines was 2-stepping around when exactly PS3 and PC would receive the DLC when ppl started getting antsy after no info during that 30 days, and even as far back when PS3 users were assured that PS3 version of the game as a whole(future add-ons included) would be receiving treatment on the same level as the other platforms-same lvl does NOT include the silliness going on now btw.

@2-You are totally right, my opinion. And?

The thing is, it wasn't promised, users are confusing instant gratification and entitlement with the things Bethesda actually said.

There is a difference between a customer demanding a service/product that was promised and 'entitlement' and there is a difference between wanting instant gratification and wanting the same level of treatment as other customers regardless of platform of choice.

And until you can see the difference between those concepts, probably best you not try to bandy them about.

[Causon-Chambers]

for whatever reason this idea typically upsets 360 users. I'm not quite sure why, probably because some of them wanted mainly 1-2 features but paid 20 bucks, and you may be able to get only the features they wanted for like 5 bucks. Crossbows wouldn't work without most of the DLC. You get them through dawnguard, including the bolts, and you learn to craft them from an NPC you can't just craft them off the get go. The arrows you could do cause it's just part of normal smithing. however seeing how some people want to pick and choose their content, if dawnguard is released someone wanting only arrows would pay 5 bucks and not 20 for the arrows. If they're gonna take you're money, they want as much as they can get. I think that's why it hasn't happened yet. Also they responded on twitter saying they would not do it, they pretty much said it's all or nothing.

Ahh thanks for this info Xharon, as i've stayed away from most Dawnguard quest info, had no clue crossbows were tied into a quest-line. Kinda lends a bit towards my disdain at hiding desired gameplay features behind DLC not everyone seems is going to have access to though.

[Sophie Payne]

Ahh thanks for this info Xharon, as i've stayed away from most Dawnguard quest info, had no clue crossbows were tied into a quest-line. Kinda lends a bit towards my disdain at hiding desired gameplay features behind DLC not everyone seems is going to have access to though.

It's no problem.

Although you're trying to avoid story spoilers, there isn't much to spoil. The story is very straightforward with no surprises.
Maybe 1 that I can think of, but not much of a surprise because it wasn't something I ever wondered about.

But if you watched the trailer, you'll pretty much know 85% of the storyline lol